Club 315w lec
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Mr.jojodancer305
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I think I'm gonna go for it and order 2 315 lec"s
genuity
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ttystikk
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Do yourself a favor and insist on Philips brand low frequency digital square wave ballasts for them.
since1991
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Stick 2 315's over a 3x6 table or area. Do the same with 2 600 watt hps lamps. See what your final weigh in is. I can almost guarantee you the weight will not even be close. You will have some frosty smelly sweet nugs but the weight...mmeh. Next..cram all 4 lamps in a checkerboard pattern over a 6x6 table or area...then do a weigh in.
ttystikk
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The weight will be closer than you think, bro.
since1991
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Ive seen it. At a buddys house. He got 2 and a half pounds of trimmed dry and cured nugs from the 2 sixers. And 2 pounds exactly from the 2 315's. The 315's gave up a higher quality product though. Half a pound difference using almost half the wattage. Not bad. But still...thats 8 ounces. Next...he is putting all 4 together in a 6x6. I will report on what he gets. It will be a couple months.
GroErr
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Use 4x 315's run them in a 6x6 and get 4 lbs from 1260w vs. 1830w?
Just by the numbers:
2x 600 = 1120g = .93 gpw
2x 315's = 908g = 1.44 gpw
2x 315's & 2x 600 = 908g + 1120g = 2028g = 1.11 gpw (1830w blended total)
Winner:
4x 315's = 1816g = 1.44 gpw (1260w total)
or comparing watt-for-watt as close as possible
6x 315's in a 6x9' 1890w total x 1.44 gpw = 1890w total & 2724g vs. 2028g
Correct me if I'm wrong but the 315's sound like a much better option, forget about "equivalent" watts, that's just marketing bull-shit and hype. Numbers don't lie, people do
since1991
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Go for it. Sounds like a plan. Crunch all the numbers you want but going out...buying all the equipment and applying it with skill in the real world and what not is a whole other different dealy. Trying to get 2.5 pounds off of 2 sixers i can tell you with many years experience...many make the claim...many arent actually doing it. Its not easy. Anyone that claims it is is a bullshitter or a third year wannabe pro. A vast majority of 600 watt single ended hps users are getting 10 to 15 ounces per lamp. The jury is still ouy on 315's because they are newish but a pound per from them isnt easy street as well. It takes a dialed room and strain...with perfect conditions at all times and an even perfect canopy.Use 4x 315's run them in a 6x6 and get 4 lbs from 1260w vs. 1830w?
Just by the numbers:
2x 600 = 1120g = .93 gpw
2x 315's = 908g = 1.44 gpw
2x 315's & 2x 600 = 908g + 1120g = 2028g = 1.11 gpw (1830w blended total)
Winner:
4x 315's = 1816g = 1.44 gpw (1260w total)
or comparing watt-for-watt as close as possible
6x 315's in a 6x9' 1890w total x 1.44 gpw = 1890w total & 2724g vs. 2028g
Correct me if I'm wrong but the 315's sound like a much better option, forget about "equivalent" watts, that's just marketing bull-shit and hype. Numbers don't lie, people do
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GroErr
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These aren't newish, they were newish 3 years ago when I first grabbed them. I ran 2x 315's for 2+ years and was grabbing 10-12 zips per light doing multi strain pheno hunts ffs. I know what they're capable of. 1lb. per 315 is easy dialled in and single strain/clone run for production (boring as shit but doable if that's your gig). I'm using COBs right now only because I can run more light in the same space and they're a little more flexible for me (I couldn't run 3x 315's in the space I have right now without major mods that I wasn't willing to bother with). But in the right conditions or different space/room I'd go back and use the 315's again, no question.
Mr.jojodancer305
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Ok fam, both of you make Damn good points. I'm in a new place and have a place I can do my work in without any stress. I'm really trying to get away from a light bill that makes me dizzy lol. And the thought of running lec"s @240 volts with a output of 1.38 to 2.0 really got my attention and the notions of better quality over quantity also got me thinking. Well anyway,, I will be running 2 systems in a 4x8 tent ...Dwc & F&D . It's the light bill that scares the shit out of me lol.
Mr.jojodancer305
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Shit man and I'm crying about 600$
since1991
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And 1500 - 2000 bucks is small potatos to some growers i know. Shit is expensive isnt it? Gotta pay to play is what they say. I try and pull off a monster outdoor season every year and that covers a large chunk if not all of my indoor electric and water bill for the year. Kinda like in the Deadliest Catch where they hate running cod in the off season but they do it because it basically covers food and fuel for the King and Opie crab seasons.
cannapharm
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Hello fellas. Ive been lurking for a while and since running my 315 for about a year now, I can finally make a comment based on my actual experience. I've ran my 3.5x3.5 tent with different styles of growing (see pics) just to get the feel of this light. At one point, I was attempting to convince all my farmer friends to make the switch based on the result I was getting. But then I was able to compare my final product to one grown under HPS. Someone has mentioned this on this thread, lec/cmh will be a killer supplemental light imo. It makes my ladies look pretty, grow well, produce all kinds of colors, ets. BUT the nug density is just not there (compared to HPS). I know there are a lot of other factors to consider and not just the light but this is what I've concluded for now.... Same mom for all these,
P.S. Im not a pro at taking pictures
P.S. Im not a pro at taking pictures
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since1991
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Your results from several crops confirms what I have found in my buddys grows around town for about a year as well. They shine when used in conjunction with hps. But stand alone they just don't bring it like some good ole high pressure sodiums. Maybe with a shit ton of em close together...with light overlap. Great spectrum. Superior to hps spectrum...but they just dont have the horsepower alone. Maybe if and when double ended cmh catches on results might be different. Alls I know is Gavita double ended hps kick much ass. Its the go to fixture for production.
cannapharm
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Yup i think the overlap would have better results than only one lamp as I have tried out. I've been considering 630 DE CMH but leaning more toward 1k DE HPS as I can also confirm those thouies are go to for production. But Im in no rush to invest lol