Clones vs mother clones

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by LowRider82, May 29, 2008.

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    LowRider82

    LowRider82 Well-Known Member

    OK if a clone is exactly like a mother, why take clones from a mother vs another clone? pros/cons of either?
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    ThunderLips

    ThunderLips Well-Known Member

    well some people choose to take clones from a mother rather than each generation due to mutations that can occur after so long of doing this. I think there is somthing in the grow faq about this, but im not sure.
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    Lord Dangly Bits

    Lord Dangly Bits Well-Known Member

    Lowrider, so you get a better understanding of why it is not good to clone from clones, do this. Take a Page from a book or something and copy it, now take the copy and copy it again, then take the new copy and copy it again, do this about 3-5 times and look at the final copy. Everytime you clone or copy something, there is small imperfections, and everytime you copy the copy, or clone the clone these small imperfection become more prodominent. Hope this was not that confuseing. I almost have myself confused now.
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    LowRider82

    LowRider82 Well-Known Member

    Lord u got me sold. no clones from clones.
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    raidercelticfan

    raidercelticfan Well-Known Member

    i have a few clones that i clone from and all the clones ive ever bought from the club have been off a clone, i just now started 2 grow from seed because everybody says clones from real mothers are the best, ive had 1 female seed go threw a hole cycle and its thicker and yielded more then my clones from clones, shes revegin right now im only clonin off her when shes ready
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    Lord Dangly Bits

    Lord Dangly Bits Well-Known Member

    I grow like 6-8 plants from seed. When I put them into flowering cycle I take two clones from each plant, and lable them. Or name them, what ever turns your crank. I pick the flowering plant that has the traits I desire. Those two clones from that plant will now become my mothers. Cloneing once is no big deal. It is when you start Cloneing multiple times.

    This is just my opinion, and the way I do it. I am sure there are other methods out there that work great also, like Raider revegging the mother he wants. But I have never been into revegging a plant.

    I try to always have two mothers of the same plant I like the most, just in case something happens like a system failure or something.
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    raidercelticfan

    raidercelticfan Well-Known Member

    thanks lord you just gave me a system, i just started growing from seed and i didnt know the best way 2 go about making mothers your way sounds perfect, thanks again
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    ivansoze

    ivansoze Active Member

    ..I don't want to get into a flamefest on this, however I use the clone-a-clone method and I also use the mother plant method (back-up!!!) - both produce exactly the same results with appropriate levels of care. In my case, both were started in similar fashion( approx 15 were started, picked best, rest grew out), one went into soil, 1 into hydro. This is a few years ago now and @times the mother has been a problem - re-potting has to be done, eventually(rootmass gets to much) etc etc, the usual problems associated with soilzez!! However, the good is, when mother is in good 'nic(condition for U non-Aussies ;)), clones of exact same vintage/variety are ready to be, err cloned!! With the clone-to-clone method, @times, no matter how good 1 is, you can be out of sync by a few days(too good a harvest?) and clones may be of questionable quality/vintage...
    I don't profess 1 method over another - both have pro/cons...evaluate your needs/capabilities(keeping mummy well/time to tend clones) and go with that...GL!!!!!
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    letsgrow

    letsgrow Well-Known Member

    Not to mention if you are cloneing a mother that you never expect to get weight of off its no big deal....If you clone clones everytime you flower to start new vegging plants you are loosing final product...It only makes since to dedicate a mommy and use her as long as possible before making a new mother
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    letsgrow

    letsgrow Well-Known Member

    By the way I just took four cuttings off of my favorite plant and bougth everything to clone with. All four had lots of roots comming out the pellets in 9 days...transplanted two days ago and tonight one had new growth...TITS....First cloning success for me
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    Wordz

    Wordz Well-Known Member

    If clones mutate down the line how do explain all the clone only strains? I call b/s to this.
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    #1accordfamily

    #1accordfamily Well-Known Member

    when u flower your mother why not cross her with a hermi of a clone from the mother. just wait till u find a hermi clone or induce stress to perswade it to be a hermi. then set flower the mother and pollenate her. idk im high right now and its just an theory. just like my mother i wana grow and graph ever strain on one. if this dont make sence just brush it off
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    Yota

    Yota Well-Known Member

    This has been debated so much. Some will argue to the death that cloning a clone is no biggie. And for a few generations i think its fine. But if you have the option of a mother, then go for it
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    ivansoze

    ivansoze Active Member

    Spot on!!:hump:...buying seeds online is easy and relatively cheap compared to buying oz's or elbows - in other words, you don't have to clone and if you can afford it, there a many, many excellent 'hobby' varieties for the 'connoisseurs':spew:...anyway, GL again...
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    fdd2blk

    fdd2blk POW Staff Member


    thank you. :mrgreen::blsmoke:

    a clone is a "genetic replica". there is NO mutating. you all are trippin'. :peace:
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    ivansoze

    ivansoze Active Member


    U are correct Wordz. I initially wrote a big spiel, now I don't care, obviously my time:confused: and experience isn't needed here:roll::roll:...if you want to have a motherplant you have to tend and which 99.99999% of the time just does SweetFA, go ahead...If you believe 'clones'(which are only branches of branches(it's the triconomy shtupid);)) will mutate:spew: and kill all life 'as we know it', good 4 you 2!!!! Whatever way you choose, just do it to the best of your ability and I am sure you will have a gr8 time...GL and goodbuy to this thread from me....


    BTW, if you want to C what a 2yo ctc looks like, look up my pix in the potpics section, the budzilla(Aurora Indica) 1's...cya yawl!!!
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    ivansoze

    ivansoze Active Member


    hehe, part of my deleted spiel was about this, clones ffs, yeah right:spew::spew::spew:...and yes...no....well, I'm almost trippin'.:joint:...gotta dry some more of our new 'concoction'....gotta think of a name for it 2:blsmoke::blsmoke::blsmoke::blsmoke::hump::hump:
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    Lord Dangly Bits

    Lord Dangly Bits Well-Known Member

    FDD, have you read anything written by Genetic Engineers on Cloneing? Even the scientist who know about cloning say there is a small amount of errors when making a clone, and that if you clone a clone multiple times these errors get worse. No one said they Mutated. Those are two different subjects.

    As for the "Clone only strains" like Train Wreck used to be. They keep a mother growing that provides stable clones. This is not saying you shouldn't do it. But if you clone a clone over and over and over after a while you will see imperfections showing up. I do not know this first hand, I just know it from what I have read.

    Now if it was just my opinion, and I had never read any of these scientific journals, I also would believe that they would be EXACT replica's each and everytime.
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    fdd2blk

    fdd2blk POW Staff Member

    i can type it right here, then you read it. doesn't make it true.

    i can only go by what i know. i know of local strains that have been clone only for years. i buy clones then clone them then take clones back to the club i got them at. those get taken and cloned then the clones are brought back. it's still the same bud after all these years. i know this first hand. this is not something i've read. i have worked with clones cloned from cloned clones and NEVER had issues. now i can read something that tells me that's not true but i really don't need to at this point.

    i will continue to clone clones. :)
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    ThunderLips

    ThunderLips Well-Known Member

    Now say that 3 times as fast as you can.

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