Clones in the Detroit or surrounding area

Cory and trevor

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Oh eyeball. The condescending things I've read you saying to other growers makes me giggle at your questions. I've read enough from you to know you are the best grower out there. A few bottles of this, couple dashes of ammonia-what's-do and I'm sure you will be right as rain and the belle of the ball again dogging everyone else's quality and price at the market. Boss.
 

NurseNancy420

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Oh eyeball. The condescending things I've read you saying to other growers makes me giggle at your questions. I've read enough from you to know you are the best grower out there. A few bottles of this, couple dashes of ammonia-what's-do and I'm sure you will be right as rain and the belle of the ball again dogging everyone else's quality and price at the market. Boss.
The silence from the clone pros is deafening
 

Motorbuds

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Oh eyeball. The condescending things I've read you saying to other growers makes me giggle at your questions. I've read enough from you to know you are the best grower out there. A few bottles of this, couple dashes of ammonia-what's-do and I'm sure you will be right as rain and the belle of the ball again dogging everyone else's quality and price at the market. Boss.
:lol: :lol:
 

DirtyEyeball696

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400 sq ft divided by 1200 watts is 33 watts per foot. At least 50 watts per ft is preferred
I think almost 22 lbs on 12 plants is pretty good paycheck in my book reguardless of where my lights are. Plants are healthy & I just got a lot bigger dehumidifier. I had 2 smaller ones that weren't cuttin it. My new aprilaire makes me smile more and more + I don't have to empty water all the time


Bawse!
 

HGK420

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I just don't understand why I've grown medium plants 5-6 footers with AN for years & then all the sudden I get bigger ceilings and grow bigger plants & now it seems AN can't keep up with bigger plants.


Bawse!

In my experience it's much more crucial for bigger plants to keep the wet dry cycle more on the wet side. They tend to get woody if you let them dry out too much in between waterings. I've found with synthetic nutes you can add h2o2 to every other watering or so and as long as you use a tea or some sort of in inoculatant you should get some good o2 bubbles...

BUUUUT in my opinion it's muuuuuch easier to grow larger plants if your going organic. Letting your dirt dry all the way is counter productive in a full organic water/tea only scenario so your always on the wet side... Makes for big ole hollow stems like a hydro plant.

Hydro can help with the big plant issue too.. As it's always wet... But you gotta be good with nutes and flushes and what not and I'd probably run a super simple line like ionic or hydro farm.. again I'd vote for organic.

I've also found holy grail a little resistant to getting large. Ive only had a few of them bigger then a qp that was worth a shit. And I've seen this same thing in 4 gardens organic and not so..
 

HGK420

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What kinda drawn out shi* is that?

Since holy grail don't get big how are these for grail?


Bawse!
I've grown plenty that big but they compare nothing to the ones I put in on day 1-21ish...

Are those 5 gallon bags? Those suckers gonna dry out fast I bet? Try keeping some on the wet side. Woodyness, chloramine poisoning, root binding, and light penetration are the biggest concerns for big plants.
 

HGK420

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I think if you build some cages n lower lights.. you would get unbelievable results, My next upgrade is Low Iron Glass for my hoods, it puts out more light and its damn near invisible.
Is that the 99% stuff that lets the radiation through I've been hearing about? You can get almost the same results as glass less with ventilated sealed hoods? I even tried googling it after a buddy was talking about it and couldn't find shit..
 

DirtyEyeball696

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I've grown plenty that big but they compare nothing to the ones I put in on day 1-21ish...

Are those 5 gallon bags? Those suckers gonna dry out fast I bet? Try keeping some on the wet side. Woodyness, chloramine poisoning, root binding, and light penetration are the biggest concerns for big plants.
No these are in 15 gallon bags. That harvest got me almost 22 lbs.


Bawse!
 

HGK420

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No these are in 15 gallon bags. That harvest got me almost 22 lbs.


Bawse!
Are you using a city water source? Probably not up there tho.

I got some in 15s right now about that Size and Im kinda sweating root binding on a couple it feels like. They ar drying out in less then 72 hours and I've been having to water every 48 hours rather than ever 3-4 days like I'd prefer. Gonna run 30's next go to see if it Makes a difference.

In my opinion I'd run far away from AN. The guy who runs it is a fucking tool and I wouldn't be surprised if he jerks off into the batches just to send the pictures to hookers... He's slime lol.. Don't get me wrong if I was filthy rich I'd probably have some awesome stuff and travel a lot but this dude is another level of trailer trash..

I'd honestly run ANY nute line besides AN and I've had great success with them in the past., it's just nothing compared to what I've done other ways.
 

Cory and trevor

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Unless those are gavita lights I think you are looking at a problem with light penetration. You only have so much penetration into a canopy. That is the reason lots of energy is spent with screens and nets and canopy management by most growers. I aim for a growing area only about 24-36" tall. I await your condescending comment on my post.
 

Corso312

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Is that the 99% stuff that lets the radiation through I've been hearing about? You can get almost the same results as glass less with ventilated sealed hoods? I even tried googling it after a buddy was talking about it and couldn't find shit..

Yeah, that is them..I'm just going to have the hardware order some and cut mine to size, I'll bring in the old glass.
 

MrStickyScissors

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Yep. It's not the number of lights, or how many watts (really lumens), it's penetration and light placement.

If you have that many lights in one room and aren't getting the results you think you could, you might want to get rid of some of those hoods and hang a few vertical bulbs. Either that or flatten out your canopy with screens, which is definitely hard in a room that big unless you do individual screens.

Since you asked though, I've used Flora Nova bloom as a 1 part nutrient for roughly the last 3-4 years. It PHs itself and you don't need any kind of bloom boosters, etc unless you just feel like wasting money. 8ml per gallon of tap water puts you right at around 1000-1100 ppm @ 5.5 ph.
or make it simple and do sea of green.
 

MrStickyScissors

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I think almost 22 lbs on 12 plants is pretty good paycheck in my book reguardless of where my lights are. Plants are healthy & I just got a lot bigger dehumidifier. I had 2 smaller ones that weren't cuttin it. My new aprilaire makes me smile more and more + I don't have to empty water all the time


Bawse!
how long of a veg did it take to get 22 lbs on 12 plants indoor?
 
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