Clones from same plant question!

personal lux

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so my question is this, if i take clones from the same plant, and then i hermaphrodite one, and breed it to the other. will i have this phenotype? or will this be some sort of inbreeding problem? thanks all. i have a beautiful jillybean phenotype is why i ask.
 

amrcngror

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are you trying for seeds is that what you mean? youll get femd seeds but im not sure if theyll have a hermie problem....
 

bigv1976

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If you herm a plant and use the pollen to fertilize another plant the herm gene will be slightly higher than buying fem seeds but if you pollinate the herm plant with its own pollen it will carry a much more dominate herm gene.
 

personal lux

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i know about feminizing. the only way to get feminized seeds is to breed a once female plant that you turned, and breed it to a still female. what im asking is if i take clones from the same female plant, hermaphrodite one and breed it to the other for seeds, will there be any inbreeding problems? weakness to bacteria or disease and stress, or even deforming in the product?
 

moggggys

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so my question is this, if i take clones from the same plant, and then i hermaphrodite one, and breed it to the other. will i have this phenotype? or will this be some sort of inbreeding problem? thanks all. i have a beautiful jillybean phenotype is why i ask.

thats selfing , it creates female seeds , backcrossing is something else ( breeding back to a previous generation ) , these seeds will be S1

just a little thing also , its not ``hermaphrodite one`` , thats a bit like saying if you black up a white man hes now black , you would refer to it as turning or forcing male flowers to show , just me being pedantic
 

Trousers

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No problems. Pretty much every stable variety has been back crossed. You should have pretty uniform plants from the seeds, with the plants being very similar to the parents.

If you herm a plant and use the pollen to fertilize another plant the herm gene will be slightly higher than buying fem seeds but if you pollinate the herm plant with its own pollen it will carry a much more dominate herm gene.
Not true at all.

There is no such thing as the "herm gene." Every female cannabis plant can be tricked/stressed into showing male flowers. If you take a female plant and make it produce male flowers the resulting seeds will be feminized. They will be just as likely to produce male flowers "herm" as the parents.

Self pollination does not make the seeds more likely to produce male flowers.
 

moggggys

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just to add

back in the day people would stress the shit out of plants to try to get them to turn , once a plant in the wild is at the point of its nearing the end of its life to perpetuate its geno it would spit out a few flowers and self pollinate ( or anything around it ) , the idea being if it didnt get to spread its genetic base this year it would pop up again next year , so breeders would use this trait and try to force a plant to create these flowers to create female seeds , however naturally it takes ages and is inconsistent and hence people started to use chemicals to change them , as trousers says all plants have this capability although some its alot easier than others , blueberry being a classic case of popping a few flowers at any point it likes wheres a plant you can dick with all you like and the bastard just wont turn is brothers grimm C99 ( GA3 is your new best friend with c99 )
 

personal lux

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well your pedantics can go somewhere else lol. hermaphrotism is how you would describe a plant with male and female flowers lol. no other way to say it. jackass.
 

Thundercat

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There is actually a difference between a plant that pops some male flowers late in life or from stress, and a true hermaphrodite which produces both male and female flowers I believe.
 

Trousers

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well your pedantics can go somewhere else lol. hermaphrotism is how you would describe a plant with male and female flowers lol. no other way to say it. jackass.
"Pendantics"? Child please

Your definition is technically correct, but not for cannabis. You could look at my signature or go look it up on wikipedia, but I doubt you could understand it.

You have demonstrated your inability to understand what a hermaphrodite is as related to feminized seeds. You also demonstrated your inability to form a complete and coherent sentence. You are not very smart nor would you be able to match me in a battle of words.

I could explain it to you, but I doubt you could understand it.
 

personal lux

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If you were as smart as you say you are, you would have realised that i was talking to the person who said PEDANTICS(hence why i said it?). go back, read what there was. and correct yourself. i would though like to hear what you have to say in terms of what my initial question was.
 
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