Clone only strains

since1991

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They have healthy cuts, but they're not always genuine. They were selling fake Ghost OG cuts out of there a couple years ago, and the Skywalker OG they had was an OG/Bubba cross, not Skywalker.
Iam willing to bet a large percentage of dispensary cuts arent the real deal. So many seed knockoffs anymore. Like real deal Skunk Va cut. Chances of anyone having the real is iffy at best. Its an OLD cut. And never was circulated in high numbers.or by alot of people. Completely opposite of what Josie Whales did with Gorilla Glue #4. You may be firmly convinced that its the real..it might be banging to you (all.that really matters) but in reality...how the fuk would one really know? Unless Skunk VA came out of seclusion and confirmed it himself...or Chemdog himself...how in the hell would one know for sure? Posting pix on the web with a million forum grower responses saying yes thats it or sorry no its not? Its all a shot in the dark with the strains..so called "clone onlys" and the name game. Seed makers confuse the matter (Cali Connection did this big time) by rolling out seeds calling the wares by the exact same name. A real shit show. All convoluted. Who knows anymore. I ve said this many times...your best chances of getting a hyped up and coming cut is early as possible. Because after so long...the knockoffs and watered down seed versions come out and your chances are slim to none.
 
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since1991

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You would never know if a dispensary had real chem 91 sk va cut or the real ghost og cut if there was no way to prove it otherwise. Except with someone with known credilbility confirming or calling them out...whats the measuring stick? Its all.relative. I guess all that matters is if the cut works for the growers running it....who cares about names anyways.
 

akhiymjames

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You would never know if a dispensary had real chem 91 sk va cut or the real ghost og cut if there was no way to prove it otherwise. Except with someone with known credilbility confirming or calling them out...whats the measuring stick? Its all.relative. I guess all that matters is if the cut works for the growers running it....who cares about names anyways.
That’s why I was asking if that place had real 91 skva. I know Chem Fam have done their due to keep that cut from being sold in a clone shop but who knows times are changing lots of cuts get out now cus money talks.
 

since1991

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Skunk Va with another handle over at icmag popped in out of nowhere awhile back and said hes still holding it down. The real deal. Posted several pics and said hes sticking with the promise to not let it out. But 90% chance it was Sk VA with the posts. Because alot of early insiders posted on his thread. All with greasy tid bits of info. Hes still got it. The original he traded Chemdog himself for a Virgjnia family held cut of a special Super Skunk cut Chemdog took back to the east coast decades ago. ( I believe that's the story - who the fuk knows). But from the photos posted on that thread..looked like a typical banging little indica dominant hybrid. Similar to the bazillion of other photos of Chem 91 or Chem based gear. Again...who the fuk knows anymore. I've witnessed straight fire and better than the so called conle only version from seed packs..ive seen Seed packs of the same clone only name put out boo boo..and all in between. Who the fuk knows anymore. Ive recently heard that the popular clone only and so called "pre 98" Bubba Kush is not only similar but the same exact plant as several other popular Southern California cuts. ( L.A. Affie..Master Kush.. etc.) It was DNA. sequenced tested by Phylos Bio Science Labs and confirmed that not only similar..but the same exact frikin plant!!!! So its all relative.
 
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akhiymjames

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Skunk Va with another handle over at icmag popped in out of nowhere awhile back and said hes still holding it down. The real deal. Posted several pics and said hes sticking with the promise to not let it out. But 90% chance it was Sk VA with the posts. Because alot of early insiders posted on his thread. All with greasy tid bits of info. Hes still got it. The original he traded Chemdog himself for a Virgjnia family held cut of a special Super Skunk cut Chemdog took back to the east coast ( I believe that's the story - who the fuk knows). But from the photos posted on that thread..looked like a typical banging little indica dominant hybrid. Similar to the bazillion of other photos of Chem 91 or Chem based gear. Again...who the fuk knows anymore. I've witnessed straight fire and better than the so called conle only version from seed packs..ive seen Seed packs of the same clone only name put out boo boo..and all in between. Who the fuk knows anymore. Ive recently heard that the popular clone only and so called "pre 98" Bubba Kush is not only similar but the same exact plant as several other popular Southern California cuts. ( L.A. Affie..Master Kush.. etc.) It was DNA. sequenced tested by Phylos Bio Science Labs and confirmed that not only similar..but the same exact frikin plant!!!! So its all relative.
Yea he’s on instagram still grows her and making crosses with her. Selling beans at emerald but yes Chem crosses can come out looking like 91, D, Sour and yes seed finds can and are sometimes better it’s all preference. Take Phylos with a grain of salt too cus it’s all about who’s sending in the cut. So many different cuts get named changed but I’m pretty sure Master and Bubba are different but if one was told his cut was Bubba really when it was Master is where all that is coming from. Still gonna get to find out lots more truths tho
 

higher self

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They have healthy cuts, but they're not always genuine. They were selling fake Ghost OG cuts out of there a couple years ago, and the Skywalker OG they had was an OG/Bubba cross, not Skywalker.
Damn for real? I have a cross in seed form they made with Ghost OG x Tahoe Cure, shits dank AF. Do you know what the Ghost really was? At this point I could care less but still that’s not cool.
 

kaka420

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the thing about genotype is he has friendships with breeders you would know. I know this as fact as Im friend of one of his breeder suppliers. I know who supplied the chem91 and I am very confident it is real. Can fake cuts show up in clone shops? Sure... all time but I think geno does a good job and is selective who he works with. Anyway I think this weekend will be his last weekend open. Pretty much everyone is shutting down in Michigan this coming week to deal with permitting....
 

since1991

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Damn for real? I have a cross in seed form they made with Ghost OG x Tahoe Cure, shits dank AF. Do you know what the Ghost really was? At this point I could care less but still that’s not cool.
You prolly got a banging og based plant. And its fire Iam willing to bet. Its not like these dispensarys and clone nursery/shops do it on purpose (to knowingly fool the buyer)..they could be or not. Alot of times they are in the dark just as well. Alot of them do knowingly try and deceive. Who the fuk knows anymore. Just run it and if its fire..thats all that matters. Call it Mommas Bathwater #7 for all I care. The names are pointless anyways.
 

Capt. Stickyfingers

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Iam willing to bet a large percentage of dispensary cuts arent the real deal. So many seed knockoffs anymore. Like real deal Skunk Va cut. Chances of anyone having the real is iffy at best. Its an OLD cut.
Chances of the dispensaries (currently) having it are slim, but Chem 91 is out there, and it's not as elusive as you might think. I had a verified cut that I received through the grapevine that's traced back to good old dog (skunkVA) on icmag.

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You would never know if a dispensary had real chem 91 sk va cut or the real ghost og cut if there was no way to prove it otherwise. Except with someone with known credilbility confirming or calling them out...whats the measuring stick? Its all.relative. I guess all that matters is if the cut works for the growers running it....who cares about names anyways.
You'd know if you've had the real deal before and if not, sometimes the fakes are so fake it's obvious. With that said about the Ghost OG, genotype's Fire OG is legit.
 

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since1991

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Where we fukt up long ago was somehow got off track and started with the goofy names. Used to be (very long ago) a "strain" was named by its land of origin. Like mountain Afghani crossed with a lowland Thai. Or a pakistani hashplant crossed with a Brazilian Sativa. Not exact. Not very specific. But sure as hell better than the name game shit show we have now.
 

Capt. Stickyfingers

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Damn for real? I have a cross in seed form they made with Ghost OG x Tahoe Cure, shits dank AF. Do you know what the Ghost really was? At this point I could care less but still that’s not cool.
I don't know. I know the cut I saw grown from there was watered down, not very stinky or tasty. But on the other hand, the fire og from there was legit og. And as far as the skywalker goes, rdmi said himself that it was an og cross, most likely with bubba. Not sure why they kept calling it skywalker. But I agree, they are pretty on top of shit, and it's been a couple years since I saw the ghost og from there, so maybe they figured it was the wrong cut or something and have the real one now. I don't know.
 

since1991

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Chances of the dispensaries (currently) having it are slim, but Chem 91 is out there, and it's not as elusive as you might think. I have a verified cut that I received through the grapevine that's traced back to good old dog (skunkVA) on icmag.

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You'd know if you've had the real deal before and if not, sometimes the fakes are so fake it's obvious. With that said about the Ghost OG, genotype's Fire OG is legit.
How did you get your Chem 91 Skunk VA verified? Looks good either way.
 

higher self

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I would send geno a message and ask about this.. rumor or true.
I’ve hollered at them before to show them what it looked like. Asked where I was from & after I said non legal state they stopped replying lol! I’ll ask again though now that this has been brought up.

You prolly got a banging og based plant. And its fire Iam willing to bet. Its not like these dispensarys and clone nursery/shops do it on purpose (to knowingly fool the buyer)..they could be or not. Alot of times they are in the dark just as well. Alot of them do knowingly try and deceive. Who the fuk knows anymore. Just run it and if its fire..thats all that matters. Call it Mommas Bathwater #7 for all I care. The names are pointless anyways.
Yeah its fire for sure just really low yeilding. Im going to run this plant for a long time!

I don't know. I know the cut I saw grown from there was watered down, not very stinky or tasty. But on the other hand, the fire og from there was legit og. And as far as the skywalker goes, rdmi said himself that it was an og cross, most likely with bubba. Not sure why they kept calling it skywalker. But I agree, they are pretty on top of shit, and it's been a couple years since I saw the ghost og from there, so maybe they figured it was the wrong cut or something and have the real one now. I don't know.
Was it really viney & lanky because thats how the plant I have is. Kind of a pain to keep the mother so I clone it every few months. Definitely dank & I havent even dialed her in fully.
 

Capt. Stickyfingers

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Was it really viney & lanky because thats how the plant I have is. Kind of a pain to keep the mother so I clone it every few months. Definitely dank & I havent even dialed her in fully.
It was viney, looked and smelled like og, but you had to stick a nug almost up into your sinus cavity to get a smell from it. Taste was real bland too. Fire og was dank though. They might have had a mixup with the ghost back then, I'm not sure.
 
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