Cinderella 99/C99: Who does it best?

I recently grew out C99 by Female Seeds and was very impressed with it. I would like to grow C99 again sometime in the future, but I am curious to see how G13, Mosca, and other breeders compare to the Female Seeds version of Cindy that I'm familiar with. Who, in your opinion, does the strain best?

(Current/Active breeders only, please)
 

aknight3

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i heard female seeds was the best, i think they have the closest to the TRUE original princess 39 grimm brothers c99. good luck.
 

aknight3

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Also for anyone who cares, this is the cinderella story posted by mr soul co owner of the grim bros seedbank....


I’ve been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the “Cinderella Story”, so here it is:
In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ “Sensi Smile” coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn’t expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call “Princess”.
Therefore Princess’ mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.
I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe’Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is “Cinderella 99″, a cubed version of Princess.
The name “Cinderella” was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It’s also VERY similar to the story of the “Morgan Horse”…go Figure
I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so I’d say you’re probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, it’ll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you can’t find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown… it’s most likely a female. Isn’t that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.
(Cinderella needs odor control?) I don’t know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It won’t “fool” anyone who’s familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and they’re harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden “stinks”.
Yields are highly dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of ‘em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them “teas” of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which I’m sure is true.
The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical “pot stench”…not at all skunky -she’s sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more “psychedelic”… I think that’s what you’re looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more…it’s easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
Haze is my favourite high. Very “trippy” C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary… it’s too “speedy” and paranoia-inducing for most people. But she’s so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.
The progression I went through was:
P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/Princess’Brother)
P.75 = Princess/P.50
Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75
Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88
Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is “TRIP WEED” with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess.
C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) – which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If you’re growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those “extra” beans (included in your order)… I don’t know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but it’s NOT Durban/Thai. I’m still developing it, so they won’t see it for about 6 months.
Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! Cafe’Girl is a sister of “Princess” – Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. Cafe’Girl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream… kinda smells like a “Creamsicle” -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and Cafe’Girl). Cafe’Girl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to “creep up” over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of Cafe’Girl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.
Sure, I’d be glad to answer your q’s:
1. I flower clones when they’re about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering.
2. They clone SUPER EASY.
3. Crossing Cindy 88’s will you a variety of phenotypes… they’re not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE.
4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and “speckled” not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heaven’s Stairway you WON’T get ripped off…but I’ll describe the plants: As seedlings they’re fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the preflowers have pistils, it’s FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY – you probably won’t believe how fat and dense and frosty they’ll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like they’re wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you won’t believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering ’til they’re done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; it’s very cerebral – the only body effect is the “jitters”. I certainly wouldn’t recommend it to anyone looking to “mellow out” on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling – PERFECT!
I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, “what did you do?… smoke too much?” The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet…not at all hashy (not that there’s anything WRONG with that!…heehee.
Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north lattitude.
If you liked NL#5/Haze, you’ll like C-99 too. It’s got a sweet, fruity taste and some of that “paranoia inducing” effect, very cerebral and speedy. The major advantages of C-99 over the old Haze x NL#5 from the original seed bank are rapid maturation and bigger yield. The highs and flavours are “different” but in the same class.
 

brotherjericho

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Well damn I'm going to have to pop another of my Female C99s...mine is pretty good but definitely not my favorite by far. Might have gotten a weaker pheno, or the late light spider mite infestation might have affected potency (if that is realistic).
 

GHOPZZ

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Mosca C99BX1 is some real fire. I got a fruit punch pheno, and a really dank pineapple one. No complaints, top shelf gear.
 

aknight3

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i bought original grimm brothers seed sometime in 05....i grew them outside and got 3 males, they mistakenly pollinated 2 females and the seeds were eventually stored away labeled c99 F2, i found them a few yrs later when c99 got real big and found some amazing fucking phenos. i dont have the oriignal grimm bros, but i made seeds from their stock, so its just as good IMO, i have 6 seeds left of the F2 from 05 as we speak, sometime next winter i am going to pop them all and find 1 male and 1 female to make f3s...wish me luck. peace
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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Trichome jungle seeds has legit C99 f3's from original bros. grim stock, another breeder with excellent c99 genetics/hybrids is "Frost Bros" some smoke reports on here, colocowboy made one > https://www.rollitup.org/smoke-reports/575390-cinderella-99-pineapple-frost-bros.html < Dizzle Frost who if i remember correctly was a regular on this site at one point in time, and is the main breeder of frost bros or at least a breeder of frost bros' genetics. I'd get his genetics over anyone elses if you looking for c99 because he's like home team ya know.
 

aknight3

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hey indica how sure are you of this? cause i am about to make f3s of the original grimm and i would love to see howm y f3s compare to their f3s, thanks
 

OGEvilgenius

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Have not grown it, but I would go with Mosca for C99
It's good, but I wouldn't get his BX1 and I haven't seen his open pollination for sale anywhere. He's limited the diversity of an already highly inbred line. I saw a grow report with over 100 seedlings and the results were good and uniform they might not be as well suited to your tastes and IMO it's just added selection to an already fairly stable line. I'd rather get an open pollination of old grim stock. Frost Dizzle I believe runs one line and there are others. I have grown out what I believe were some of Frosts and it very much lived up to the C99 hype, it really didn't even smell like weed. Very clear upbeat high with a quick harvest window. Not as strong as some others I've grown hit for hit, but strong enough and highly motivational.

I also only got to test out one plant.
 

OGEvilgenius

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i bought original grimm brothers seed sometime in 05....i grew them outside and got 3 males, they mistakenly pollinated 2 females and the seeds were eventually stored away labeled c99 F2, i found them a few yrs later when c99 got real big and found some amazing fucking phenos. i dont have the oriignal grimm bros, but i made seeds from their stock, so its just as good IMO, i have 6 seeds left of the F2 from 05 as we speak, sometime next winter i am going to pop them all and find 1 male and 1 female to make f3s...wish me luck. peace
Do an open pollination and actually preserve the line rather than making your own selections please.
 

OGEvilgenius

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hey indica how sure are you of this? cause i am about to make f3s of the original grimm and i would love to see howm y f3s compare to their f3s, thanks
Assuming they did an open pollination their line will definitely be superior and likely will be superior anyway just because he might have had more seeds than you did to work with, although that's speculation (based on the low number you had).
 

colocowboy

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Dizzle Frost / Frost Bros. are each of the phenos from the original Brothers Grim stock worked to f4.
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redzi

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I just ordered my second Mosca C99...a frantic order when I found out Actual seeds has gone under making what I thought was the only source of reg. C99. Trichome Jungle is news to me but I will say that Mosca C99 is consistently a good stable breed and I will go buy some Eskobar Princess or Chuckys Bride (cheese x c99) before spending on an unknown, unproven breeder.
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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I just ordered my second Mosca C99...a frantic order when I found out Actual seeds has gone under making what I thought was the only source of reg. C99. Trichome Jungle is news to me but I will say that Mosca C99 is consistently a good stable breed and I will go buy some Eskobar Princess or Chuckys Bride (cheese x c99) before spending on an unknown, unproven breeder.
Trichome jungle is not unproven, just not popular on this site where all the praises seem to go to cali con and TGA. Banana man has been up front and honest to me and my bro when we grew his gear. everything i've sampled of his has been quality, my bro is curing the c99 f3's right now so if this thread is still getting views i'll update with a smoke report in a week, just from the grow it smells like pineapple and mango, definitely similar to c99 i've had elsewhere. i bought my bro some seeds almost a year ago of the Shambala kush and Mantis, they were enough to convince him to splurge on the c99's. the descriptions were spot on, mantis is like lemon lime sativa dominant hybrid with good yield and vigor, not for lightweights. shambala kush is excellent if you get the Pre 98 bubba kush pheno, tasted like mulberries. Trichome jungle shares alot of its genetics with Sonic seeds, Sonic and banana man have collected a shitload of rare heirloom landraces so they have some unique hybrids i want to still try, sonic though seems to be a private breeder so obtaining them through him might be impossible.
 

coolkid.02

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Trichome jungle is not unproven, just not popular on this site where all the praises seem to go to cali con and TGA. Banana man has been up front and honest to me and my bro when we grew his gear. everything i've sampled of his has been quality, my bro is curing the c99 f3's right now so if this thread is still getting views i'll update with a smoke report in a week, just from the grow it smells like pineapple and mango, definitely similar to c99 i've had elsewhere. i bought my bro some seeds almost a year ago of the Shambala kush and Mantis, they were enough to convince him to splurge on the c99's. the descriptions were spot on, mantis is like lemon lime sativa dominant hybrid with good yield and vigor, not for lightweights. shambala kush is excellent if you get the Pre 98 bubba kush pheno, tasted like mulberries. Trichome jungle shares alot of its genetics with Sonic seeds, Sonic and banana man have collected a shitload of rare heirloom landraces so they have some unique hybrids i want to still try, sonic though seems to be a private breeder so obtaining them through him might be impossible.
Glad to hear you had a good experience with Trichome jungle...

I am still waiting to pop Shimla Haze, C99 f3, Bubba Mantis f2's.

These guys know their stuff!
 
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