Gbuddy

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Question for the more experienced chuckers...

Any advantage/disadvantage to a male that drops his nut early? Is it similar to a female flowering early? I've got a few sweet skunk males in a separate area to collect pollen and one of them started dropping pollen 2 weeks in to flower and the other two took 4 weeks.

Good? Bad? No difference either way?
Some people say the first male brings it more towards hemp rather than drug.
I would not use the first male and not the last.
 

danky supreme

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^^I believe one of the main reasons why Jiffy Pellets have such a high success rate is you dont have to fuck with the seedling after it cracks. I get close to 100% with the paper towel method as well. However when they get transferred from the paper towel to dirt the tap root can be so delicate messing with it at all seems to drastically reduce the number of seedlings that will actually grow after germination.
 

Gbuddy

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^^I believe one of the main reasons why Jiffy Pellets have such a high success rate is you dont have to fuck with the seedling after it cracks. I get close to 100% with the paper towel method as well. However when they get transferred from the paper towel to dirt the tap root can be so delicate messing with it at all seems to drastically reduce the number of seedlings that will actually grow after germination.
Thats it.
I have tried seedsponge and killed a lot of taproots because they grew into the sponge. Used oasis same shit. Plain ph'd water works good as long as you have a good temprature.

I tested all this methods because I fucked up lots of seeds in jiffys in the beginning. because I used them dripping wet.
when I understood that to squeze the thing gently is soooo important I had good rates.
I combined that with what I knew about temprature. Used a miniheater for fishtanks with 25 watts and built a waterbath like thing to let my germinationbox stand in the water and could be temp adjusted easy way.
heating mats are too hot imo.
and since that time I found germinating seeds realy nice.

Peace
 

TheHermit

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I use jiffy pellets as well, but I put mine in a humidity dome and into my veg chamber. Seedlings seem to do better when they have a light to grow towards when they pop out of the soil. In the winter I use a germination mat, but it is not necessary this time of year. I never understood paper towels myself. It just seems like an extra step that isn't needed. But it seems to work for a lot of people, so who am I to say otherwise.
 

Mr.Head

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That's because it's a thread where everyone is after the same goal. :) Great cannabis :)

That and there's no big name breeders involved for people to get their dick all hurt about :)

@akhiymjames Figured here was more appropes :) Pics are a bit blurry camera is shit, the others dead of course :)
Fireballs
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Lee Roy
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I didn't actually look closely at this clone for about the last 3 days or so but she's much less woody then the mother plant. And the node spacing is better. I am wondering if my water issues might be contributing to her being all stretched out. She hasn't been in flower for more then 6 days so it's not flower stretchies yet.

Edit: I discovered last night I have thrips so I got a nice new pump sprayer to deal with those fuckers.
 

Gbuddy

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That's because it's a thread where everyone is after the same goal. :) Great cannabis :)

That and there's no big name breeders involved for people to get their dick all hurt about :)

@akhiymjames Figured here was more appropes :) Pics are a bit blurry camera is shit, the others dead of course :)
Fireballs
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Lee Roy
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I didn't actually look closely at this clone for about the last 3 days or so but she's much less woody then the mother plant. And the node spacing is better. I am wondering if my water issues might be contributing to her being all stretched out. She hasn't been in flower for more then 6 days so it's not flower stretchies yet.

Edit: I discovered last night I have thrips so I got a nice new pump sprayer to deal with those fuckers.
Try to get something for the sprayer that includes killing the eggs too. Friend of mine had thrips once and he had a hard time in hydro before he got something that knocked out all stages of their lifecycle.

Edit
I know you guys over the big pond do like the organic way but for a first aid a can of good old paral spray can do wonders. ( ok in flowering stage its a no go but in veg it can help as a first aid fast)
 

akhiymjames

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That's because it's a thread where everyone is after the same goal. :) Great cannabis :)

That and there's no big name breeders involved for people to get their dick all hurt about :)

@akhiymjames Figured here was more appropes :) Pics are a bit blurry camera is shit, the others dead of course :)
Fireballs
View attachment 3489519 View attachment 3489521
Lee Roy
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I didn't actually look closely at this clone for about the last 3 days or so but she's much less woody then the mother plant. And the node spacing is better. I am wondering if my water issues might be contributing to her being all stretched out. She hasn't been in flower for more then 6 days so it's not flower stretchies yet.

Edit: I discovered last night I have thrips so I got a nice new pump sprayer to deal with those fuckers.
Well from that pic she is def OG dom for sure its just the genes bro. OG is very viney and lanky and she's a product of the mother and the OG genes in her. Supercrop should help to beef her up some
 

Amos Otis

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On a side note I highly recommend Jiffy Pellets for germinating seeds. I did a germination experiment and got 30 for 30 with the Jiffys
I recently experimented w/ Jiffys vs Root Riots for clones. Took 2 clones ea of 12 seed plants - one in Jiffy, one in RR. The plants were [are] 3 Grape Smuggler, 3 Cherry White, 3 Chernobyl, and 3 Chill Factor. Every one of them made roots, but every one of the jiffys rooted faster, and grew almost twice as fast after.
 

akhiymjames

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I recently experimented w/ Jiffys vs Root Riots for clones. Took 2 clones ea of 12 seed plants - one in Jiffy, one in RR. The plants were [are] 3 Grape Smuggler, 3 Cherry White, 3 Chernobyl, and 3 Chill Factor. Every one of them made roots, but every one of the jiffys rooted faster, and grew almost twice as fast after.
@a senile fungus had some trouble rooting in Jiffy. I've always heard people have great success with them never tried them tho. Been having some great success cloning in RR tho. I wonder if they would root faster using any hormones or aloe
 

a senile fungus

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@a senile fungus had some trouble rooting in Jiffy. I've always heard people have great success with them never tried them tho. Been having some great success cloning in RR tho. I wonder if they would root faster using any hormones or aloe

I use the peat root riots.

I currently have a batch of root riots soaking in a diluted solution of rooting hormone with a bubbler, and the cuts are in a cup of water with a splash of rooting solution. Later tonight I'll go and put the two together and leave them in the dome for two weeks to see what happens.

I'm also gonna do a couple straight into cups of promix with plastic baggies over them, and I was considering leaving some cuts in straight water.

It's gotta be something I'm messing up but I can't figure it out...

My best success with clones has been when I accidentally top a plant and just stick the cutting willynilly into an extra soil pot, those ones always seem to survive even though I forget about them and don't ever label them properly.

We'll see, we'll see.
 

genuity

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I use the peat root riots.

I currently have a batch of root riots soaking in a diluted solution of rooting hormone with a bubbler, and the cuts are in a cup of water with a splash of rooting solution. Later tonight I'll go and put the two together and leave them in the dome for two weeks to see what happens.

I'm also gonna do a couple straight into cups of promix with plastic baggies over them, and I was considering leaving some cuts in straight water.

It's gotta be something I'm messing up but I can't figure it out...

My best success with clones has been when I accidentally top a plant and just stick the cutting willynilly into an extra soil pot, those ones always seem to survive even though I forget about them and don't ever label them properly.

We'll see, we'll see.
That last part has always worked best for me...
 

a senile fungus

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That last part has always worked best for me...
Was it straight soil or some kind of mix?

I've done it successfully with living soils but this time around I'm only using promix. I'm sure the "living" aspect of the soil contributed to my success.

I guess we'll see how promix and plastic baggies does!

Lately cloning has been a numbers game for me. If I take enough of em, then some will eventually root. But I didn't use to have these issues before I moved shop.


Edit: that's interesting about the jiffys, I'll have to get some to try with, thanks @Amos Otis
 
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