Cbd crew at attitude..... Yes feminised mr nice strains

canna_420

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CBD Crew Seeds Nordle Feminized
£34.99

Type: Indica / Sativa
Sex: Feminized
Genetics: afghan Skunk
Flowering Time: Medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
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CBD Crew Seeds Shark Feminized
£34.99

Type: Indica / Sativa
Sex: Feminized
Genetics: Shark Shock
Flowering Time: Medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
Characteristics:




CBD Crew Seeds Critical Mass Feminized
£34.99

Type: Indica / Sativa
Sex: Feminized
Genetics: Critical Mass
Flowering Time: Medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
Characteristics:




CBD Crew Seeds Skunk Haze Feminized
£34.99

Type: Indica / Sativa
Sex: Feminized
Genetics: Skunk Haze
Flowering Time: Medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
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CBD Crew Seeds Yummy Feminized
£34.99

Type: Indica / Sativa
Sex: Feminized
Genetics: yummy
Flowering Time: Medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
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CBD Crew Seeds Outdoor Mix Feminized
£34.99

Type: Indica / Sativa
Sex: Feminized
Genetics:
Flowering Time: Medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
Characteristics:




CBD Crew Seeds Sweet'n Sour Widow Regula..
£34.99

Type: Indica / Sativa
Sex: Regular
Genetics: white widow
Flowering Time: Medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
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CBD Crew Seeds

 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
from reading it appears that it's a collaboration ebtween MNS and Resin Seeds.

http://cbdcrew.org/

However if you are changing the genetic profile so that different ratios are obtained, are they really "feminized Mr Nice"? Seems to be that if you start changing your THC and CBD ratio's, then it's not really the same strain. That is to say you grow a normal MNS Nordle, and this feminized, they would be two totally different smokes.
 

canna_420

Well-Known Member
from reading it appears that it's a collaboration ebtween MNS and Resin Seeds.

http://cbdcrew.org/

However if you are changing the genetic profile so that different ratios are obtained, are they really "feminized Mr Nice"? Seems to be that if you start changing your THC and CBD ratio's, then it's not really the same strain. That is to say you grow a normal MNS Nordle, and this feminized, they would be two totally different smokes.
Yes i guess what you say is right

as it goes cbd rich strains are boring no stone or high.

THC rich is better for medicine, feel good factor alone
CBD rich for external like rubs etc
 

Tuco420

Active Member
Personly i would prefer to just go with the orignal Mr Nice versions and avoid the possible headaches and wasted time/money associated with the hermie issues in fem's.

Not to mention Mr Nice gives you something crazy like 18 beans in a pack dosen't he ???

The way i see it, it's just more of a chance to find that extra special pheno! :bigjoint:
 

althor

Well-Known Member
Personly i would prefer to just go with the orignal Mr Nice versions and avoid the possible headaches and wasted time/money associated with the hermie issues in fem's.

Not to mention Mr Nice gives you something crazy like 18 beans in a pack dosen't he ???

The way i see it, it's just more of a chance to find that extra special pheno! :bigjoint:

What hermie issues in fems?
I grow fems all the time and never get hermies. Am I just that much better of a grower or is the "female seeds are hermie prones" false propoganda?
 

Brick Top

New Member
So they're just making some fem beans and ripping off some breeders work?
The CBD Crew is Scott Blakey (AKA Shantibaba, owner/breeder of Mr. Nice Seeds), Howard Marks and Jamie from Resin Seeds.

Somehow I do not believe that Shanti is ripping himself off. Also, from what I read on the MNS forum previous to my leaving the site is that the feminized seeds are made by Jamie and are limited editions and not something that will continue. I suppose it is possible that could change based on consumer reaction to them, but based on what Shanti has stated, I doubt that will be the case.



The CBD-crew is a collaboration between
Mr. Nice Seedbank and Resin seeds.






10-11-2011, 08:14 PM

shantibaba

Breeder and moderator
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 816



[HR][/HR] Hi All

Thanks for all the response both public and private concerning the CBD project we are working on…it gives us a positive feeling knowing many of you sincerely support the crew involved doing the research.

After a few years of being quiet and in the dark and waiting on test results we are feeling upbeat and believe we will have products to fill CBDcrew packets that will be consistent with our aim of creating a seed that is 100% THC- and CBD-rich - the desired ratio of 1:1 cannot be guaranteed at this time. We consider CBD-rich any strain that has at least 4% CBD content in it's buds.


Now I understand many of you know MNS does not make feminized seed and we still do NOT !

However when working with a group of people under a different label, we make decisions to do things that may seem in contrast with our own company's philosophy but make sense for our new project.



People with terminal illnesses and little growing experience do not have the time to wait . This was the point that made it clear for us to release a feminized version of Z6 and Z7.


This Z series is not going to be remade and was put on the market or to testers as it was where we got to with CBD rich strains in 2011. The feminized version was made with Z6 and Z7 two strains combining CBD-rich test plants. We did not make many regulars of these two strains and therefore the regulars were passed out to testers and not for sale.


We decided to only release the limited stock of feminized seed of these two strains. A logical decision based on our testing, and this is the reasoning behind releasing them as a feminized series. While the Z series was released as a prototype and to test the appetite for those interested in this project, it was not a finished product nor released as a CBD-crew strain, it was a starting point for public opinion and where we got to after almost 2 years work.


Talk is great but at some point we knew we needed to offer a release or teaser strain to engage you all in this work. That is the Z series and our truth to date. Just for your knowledge we have had several of the Z series seeds tested in other countries since beginning this testing in public and had results that surpassed our predictions.


I always stated clearly there are applications for all types of seeds including auto flowering, feminized and regular. While MNS does not make products other than regular seeds based on selection, other companies only make feminized or auto flowering or both versions of their selected products. We all have our niche in the market.


While I still manage MNS, we will only make products that support our philosophy and our growers, nothing changed. Listening to a broader community and to help people with medical conditions and listen to their needs and their constraints and limitations, as Shantibaba I will always be flexible and ready to do what our crew considers to be correct . Hope that explains the dichotomy of life a little and satisfies those inquiring minds.


All the best,
Shantibaba
 

Brick Top

New Member
THC rich is better for medicine, feel good factor alone
CBD rich for external like rubs etc

Only someone who does not know the true medicinal value of cannabis would claim THC is of higher, more widespread, medicinal value than CBD. CBD has vastly more medicinal uses than THC.

Mr. Toad's Wild Ride does not equate to being the best, or in some cases even good or decent, medication. Only the uninformed believes it does.


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Cannabidiol —CBD— is a compound in Cannabis that has medical effects but does not make people feel “stoned” and actually counters some of the effects of THC. After decades in which only high-THC Cannabis was available, CBD-rich strains are now being grown by and for medical users.
The reduced psychoactivity of CBD-rich Cannabis may make it an appealing treatment option for patients seeking anti-inflammatory, anti-pain, anti-anxiety and/or anti-spasm effects without disconcerting euphoria or lethargy.
Scientific and clinical studies indicate that CBD could be effective in easing symptoms of a wide range of difficult-to-control conditions, including: rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, alcoholism, PTSD, epilepsy, antibiotic-resistant infections and neurological disorders. CBD has demonstrated neuroprotective effects, and its anti-cancer potential is currently being explored at several academic research centers in the U.S. and other countries.

In the spring of 1998, the British government licensed a company called GW Pharmaceuticals to grow Cannabis and develop a precisely consistent plant extract for use in clinical trials. GW's co-founder Geoffrey Guy, MD, was convinced —and had convinced the Home Office— that by using CBD-rich plants, GW could produce a Cannabis-based medicine with little or no psychoactive effect. That summer Guy described his approach at a meetingof the International Cannabinoid Research Society. In addition to countering the psychoactivity of THC, Guy said, CBD conferred benefits of its own. Queen Victoria had used CBD-rich Cannabis for menstrual cramps. Indeed, animal studies suggest that CBD lessened anxiety and reduced the severity and frequency of seizures.
It was assumed that generations of breeding for maximum THC had reduced CBD in California cannabis to trace levels. GW had gotten its CBD-rich strains by acquiring the genetic library of HortaPharm, a Dutch seed company run by American ex-pat naturalists, David Watson and Robert Clarke. Tod Mikuriya, MD, founder of the Society of Cannabis Clinicians, expressed hope that "our Burbanks in the hills" would have preserved or could develop CBD-rich strains if and when an analytic test lab began serving the medical Cannabis industry.
As the years went by, more and more promising studies involving CBD were described at meetings of the ICRS, the International Association for Cannabinoid Medicine, and Patients Out of Time. California doctors kept abreast of the research and O'Shaughnessy's reported on it, but we were merely observers, not participants —until the fall of 2008, when Oakland's Steep Hill Laboratory began testing samples provided by Harborside Health Center.
Approximately one in 750 samples of Cannabis being grown for medical use is turning out to be CBD-rich. (For data collection purposes, "CBD-rich" has been defined as 4% or more by dry weight.) Doctors and patients now have a unique opportunity to evaluate its effects.

12/11/10 SCC HEARS McALLISTER ON CANCER RESEARCH
Barriers between pro-Cannabis MDs and the medical establishment are falling. Doctors who monitor cannabis use by patients were bursting with questions yesterday during a talk by Sean McAllister, PhD, who has been studying the anti-cancer effects of cannabinoids in the laboratory (on a grant from NIH and with a license from the DEA). The occasion was the winter meeting of the Society of Cannabis Clinicians. "That's a very good question," McAllister would say, and provide the answer, and tie it back into his main thread.
Researcher Jahan Marcu at Temple University wrote up a recent presentation by McAllister, covering the same ground. Here's Jahan's account:
Dr. McAllister and colleagues at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute have discovered that CBD (Cannabidiol) is a very potent inhibitor of breast cancer. They have reported findings on the cumulative effect of CBD and THC in blocking proliferation of brain-cancer cells, and on CBD's mechanism of action in blocking breast-cancer metastasis.
A new study by McAllister et al in the Journal of Breast Cancer Research and Treatment is an in-depth look at how CBD kills breast cancer cells in an animal model. CBD affects a protein called ID-1, which appears to be a major conductor of cancer cells. ID-1 is thus is an excellent target for a cancer treatment.
When cancer spreads it can eat through tissue (the process is called "metastasis"). CBD appears to inhibit the cells' aggressive behavior. The image above is from an experiment by McAllister testing how CBD can stop the invasion of cancer cells. The cancer cells are placed on a gel which contain small holes. The cells are dosed with a drug and after a few days you can count the number of cells that have made it through. This simulates what a tumor does as it eats its way through human tissues. The little black triangles are the cells. You can see that only a half-dozen or so made it through the gel when dosed with CBD (on the right). The control on the left shows that in the absence of CBD, the cancer cells easily chew through the gel.
McAllister and colleagues at California Pacific have posted a video showing cannabinoids selectively killing cancer cells.

(Video can be found here: http://projectcbd.org/Science.html#First )

The therapeutic potential of CBD or a synthetic version thereof is, of course, of interest to pharmaceutical companies. McAllister mentioned that work may soon start on a CBD and breast cancer clinical trial with synthetic cannabidiol provided by a British company, STI pharmaceuticals. Top

CBD MAY COUNTER THE MUNCHIES

The title of a paper published in Neuropsychopharmacology earlier this year —"Cannabidiol Attenuates the Appetitive Effects of Delta(9)-Tetrahydrocannabinol in Humans Smoking Their Chosen Cannabis"— suggests to us that CBD-rich Cannabis might work as an appetite suppressant. The authors, Celia Morgan and colleagues from University College London, tested 94 subjects on two occasions. The subjects smoked their own Cannabis and "while acutely under the influence" were offered more Cannabis, other drugs, and food. Morgan et al measured the eagerness with which the subjects responded to the offerings, and found that it correlated inversely with the CBD-to-THC ratio of the Cannabis the subjects were smoking. In other words, the higher the proportion of CBD they had ingested, the less desirous they became of more drugs and food.
In the great Prohibitionist tradition, Morgan et al concluded that "CBD has potential as a treatment for Cannabis dependence" and "possibly… for other addictive disorders."
Here's the abstract: "Worldwide Cannabis dependence is increasing, as is the concentration of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in street Cannabis. At the same time, the concentration of the second most abundant cannabinoid in street Cannabis, cannabidiol (CBD), is decreasing. These two cannabinoids have opposing effects both pharmacologically and behaviorally when administered in the laboratory. No research has yet examined how the ratio of these constituents impacts on the appetitive/reinforcing effects of Cannabis in humans. A total of 94 Cannabis users were tested 7 days apart, once while non-intoxicated and once while acutely under the influence of their own chosen smoked Cannabis on dependence-related measures. Using an unprecedented methodology, a sample of Cannabis (as well as saliva) was collected from each user and analyzed for levels of cannabinoids. On the basis of CBD : THC ratios in the Cannabis, individuals from the top and bottom tertiles were directly compared on indices of the reinforcing effects of drugs, explicit liking, and implicit attentional bias to drug stimuli. When intoxicated, smokers of high CBD : THC strains showed reduced attentional bias to drug and food stimuli compared with smokers of low CBD : THC. Those smoking higher CBD : THC strains also showed lower self-rated liking of Cannabis stimuli on both test days. Our findings suggest that CBD has potential as a treatment for Cannabis dependence. The acute modulation of the incentive salience of drug cues by CBD may possibly generalize to a treatment for other addictive disorders."
We'll look into the appetite-suppressant angle here at Project CBD…In animal studies another compound in the Cannabis plant, THC-V, has been found to suppress food cravings. Top

CBD "ALERTING" EXCEPT IN HIGH DOSES
Nancy Sajben, MD, has shared a note from a patient about a CBD-rich strain purchased at Harborside Health Center (after he couldn’t find any CBD-rich Cannabis in Southern California).
The patient wrote: “Incredible Romulan, with a little vaping in the oven to remove THC, proved excellent for my chronic insomnia when made into a tincture.”
Dr. Sajben wanted to know whether heating Cannabis would indeed remove THC.
Project CBD explains: “Just a few comments on the concept of increasing CBD over THC —I am afraid that this is not rational. Firstly, you can’t create CBD when it’s not there to begin with. There are a lot of crazy misconceptions floating around along the lines of raw Cannabis has more CBD; that heating turns THC into CBD; or that you can differentially favor one over the other. None of these are true. The amount of CBD in a given chemotype is genetically determined, period. Generally speaking, drug strains of Cannabis available in North America rarely have any significant amount of CBD.
“THC has a boiling point of 157 Celsius, with CBD listed as 160-180 Celsius. However, both begin to sublimate off at even lower temperatures, and commercially available vaporizers, even the Volcano, do not heat evenly enough to allow fractionation of one component over another. What your patient is doing is wasting some cannabinoids and terpenoids by preheating. To get all of them out requires more prolonged heating, or a higher temperature. When the latter is done, it favors higher molecular weight sesquiterpenoids, many of which are sedating. That would account for the hypnotic effect along with whatever residual THC is left. Contrary to popular belief, CBD is actually alerting, except at exceptionally high doses.
References: “A Tale of Two Cannabinoids: The Therapeutic Rationale for Combining Tetrahydrocannabinol and Cannabidiol” by Ethan Russo and Geoffrey W. Guy, and “Effect of D-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol and Cannabidiol on Nocturnal Sleep and Early-Morning Behavior in Young Adults" by Anthony N. Nicholson, Claire Turner, Barbara M. Stone and Philip J. RobsonTop.

HOW DOES CBD COUNTER ANXIETY?
A new study by Jose A. S. Crippa and a team of Brazilian investigators confirms that symptoms of Social Anxiety Disorder can be reduced by treatment with CBD —and identifies areas of the brain involved in the process. The paper by Crippa et al, "Neural basis of anxiolytic effects of cannabidiol in generalized social anxiety disorder: a preliminary report," was published online Sept. 9 in the Journal of Psychopharmacology. Ten men with severe Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD), ages 20 to 33, participated in the study, which was conducted at the University of Sao Paulo. Crystalline CBD from THC Pharm in Frankfurt was used. Prior to undergoing a neuroimaging procedure to measure blood flow in the brain, the subjects were given either 400 mg of CBD dissolved in corn oil and packed in a gel cap, or a placebo gel cap. A week later they were given the alternative treatment. The investigators assumed that the neuroimaging —Single Photon Emission Computed Tomography (SPECT), which involves insertion of an intravenous tube and observation by a technician deploying a high-tech apparatus— was in itself an anxiety-producing event. Subjects recorded their anxiety levels before, during, and after the neuroimaging by means of a "Visual Analogue Mood Scale (VAMS)." The researchers were able to correlate these subjective reports with blood-flow activity measured in the brain. "CBD was associated with significantly decreased anxiety," they concluded. They observed reduced radioactive tracer intake in the left parahippocampal gyrus, the hippocampus, and the inferior temporal gyrus. They saw increased uptake in the right posterior cingulated gyrus. "These results suggest that CBD reduces anxiety in SAD and that this is related to its effects on activity in limbic and paralimbic brain areas," according to Crippa. If CBD-rich Cannabis exerts similar effects, Crippa's findings suggest that it can be useful in decreasing anxiety.

December 23 CBD Tops the Chart
Halent Labs has developed a spiffy, color-coded chart to help medical Cannabis users select strains best suited to treat their symptoms. The chart lists and defines desired effects, from "Analgesic" to "Vasorelaxant," along with 23 cannabinoids and terpenoids that supposedly contribute to those effects.




CBD is the most versatile tool in the Cannabis plant's kit, according to the Halent chart. It "reduces pain, slows bacteria growth, reduces blood sugar levels, reduces nausea and vomiting, reduces seizures and convulsions, reduces inflammation, reduces risk of artery blockage, inhibits cancer growth, treats psoriasis, is tranquilizing, suppresses muscle spasms, relieves anxiety, promotes bone growth, reduces function in the immune system, reduces small intestine contractions, retards nervous system degeneration, and reduces vascular tension." Reference to CBD as an anti-depressant is omitted.
The chart was developed by analytic chemist Don Land based on studies published in peer-reviewed journals. The 23 cannabinoids and terpenoids it refers to are the ones Halent is testing for.
Although the chart implies that the ability of the listed cannabinoids and terpenoids to provide the specified effects has been well established, the evidence of benefit ranges from very strong to very slight. Establishing (or disproving) efficacy was the impetus for both Project CBD and the SCC survey.
Halent plans to track patients' responses to CBD-rich Cannabis and strains containing other compounds of interest. They're undoubtedly aware that telling people what to expect from a given type of Cannabis will influence the effects reported, and that peer-reviewed journals would not publish data skewed in this way.
I say "Skew it." So what if the placebo effect accounts for 15 percent —or even 30 percent— of the reported benefit? If positive expectations alter brain chemistry in a way that makes drugs more effective, why go to great lengths to block positive expectations?
It's damn arrogant of the medical establishment to define the double-blind placebo-controlled, randomized clinical trial as "the gold standard of research," given all the deadly drugs the FDA has approved based on such trials. Corporate biomedicine is corrupt. Their most prestigious journals are full of ghost-written papers, they exclude studies showing adverse effects… Honest anecdotal evidence is far preferable to superficial rigor.
As I write this at the winter solstice, the
New York Times is belatedly informing readers that numerous, rock-solid studies point to Tylenol as a causal factor in asthma…
But don't let 'em have any marijuana!
Fred Gardner







December 05 CBD Reduces Inflammation by Inhibiting Cox-2 Production
MAGL (monoacylglycerol lipase) is the enzyme primarily responsible for breaking down the endocannabinoid 2-AG (2-arachidonoylglycerol). Recent research shows that the Cox enzymes also break down 2-AG.
Researcher Gregory Gerdeman, PhD, elucidates:
"The products of 2-AG breakdown by MAGL (a hydrolysis reaction that literally cleaves the molecule) are different from the product of 2-AG breakdown by Cox-2 (an oxidation reaction... not accurately called a 'breakdown,' which is a generic term anyway, but a conversion into a product no longer active at CB receptors. I'm not sure if multiple Cox-2 oxidation products exist.
"Cox is not just creating the pain-mediating prostaglandins (which is the rationale for blocking Cox-2 with NSAIDs but at the same time it's breaking down 2-AG. Thus, when someone takes Ibuprofen, part of the pain- and inflammation-reducing effect is likely due to elevating 2-AG to act at the CB1 receptor (on pain-transmitting sensory neurons), or the CB-2 receptor (found on various leukocytes and which subsequently dampen inflammatory immune responses), or both."
According to Gerdeman, a study published in Science Nov. 11 by DK Nomura and colleagues, indicates that "endocannabinoids and neuroinflammatory prostaglandins seem to form a physiological axis of neuroprotection to neuroinflammation, which we are only beginning to understand. MAG lipase not only breaks down the protective 2-AG, but in so doing, turns it into a damaging prostaglandin that promotes neurodegenerative disease.
"Larry Marnett at Vanderbilt and his former student Kevin Kozak were first to show the oxygenation of 2-AG by COX-2 about 10 years ago. Marnett recently published an important paper describing a new series of synthetic drugs that are 'substrate-specific' blockers of Cox-2, meaning that they block the 2-AG breakdown without affecting other substrates (like arachidonic acid).
"This stuff is sure to be getting the pharma folks busy thinking about new and plant-free ways to stimulate CB2 without influencing the central nervous system. Someone should be looking closely to see if CBD and other phytocannabinoids might interact in similar ways with the Cox-2 enzyme.
Gerdeman called our attention to an earlier, related article showing that 2-AG can 'inhibit' neuroinflammation mediated by COX-2, by apparently blocking the cellular expression of the enzyme in response to toxic insults.
"Such 'inducible expression' is a hallmark of the COX-2 isoenzyme," he notes. "Taken together these studies point to a complex regulation of inflammatory processes by endocannabinoids, with the common downstream effect of neuroprotection.
"Could it be that CBD has similar effects?" he asks. "There is considerable evidence of CBD as a neuroprotectant, with multiple possible mechanisms. Chronic neuroinflammation is seen more and more to be an important player in the onset or progression of numerous age-related neurodegenerative diseases. It only makes sense to seriously investigate any non-toxic therapeutic possibilities."
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October 21 Update on Omrita Rx3 – CBD-Rich Offspring on the Rise
Miguel A., cultivator of Omrita Rx3, released clones of his strain to a handful of California collectives in August including WAMM and Harborside. The grower cracked 150 of the original strain backcross, 50 of which differentiated into females. All plants were grown indoors without direct light. For his analytical testing laboratory, Miguel tapped California Botanicals, providing 50 Omrita plant samples in April 2011, to be tested for cannabinoid content by HPLC.
Of the 50 Omrita Rx3 samples:

7 plants - CBD-rich (<1% THC) = 14%
18 plants - High THC (<1% CBD) = 6%
10 plants - 1:1 ratio CBD/THC = 20%
15 plants - 2:1 CBD/THC ratio = 30%





Even when a strain is stabilized, there is a varying cannabinoid profile in each seed. Not every seed of a "CBD-rich strain" will produce a CBD-rich offspring, just as not every seed of a "THC-rich strain" will produce THC-rich offspring. These latest results of the Omrita samples show that fully 64% of these plants yielded CBD-rich offspring. This is significantly higher than the 1-in-4 estimate that other CBD-rich strains have been proven to currently produce. This finding represents strong evidence that those genetic breeding programs specifically targeting higher CBD content (such as of Miguel A's) may indeed increase the likelihood of producing CBD-rich offspring.
 

canna_420

Well-Known Member
for smoking i cant see cbd any good, in consumables is a dif matter.

i did n still have Z6 best for it was edibles worked better than ibuprofen on my swollen areas.

i aint arguing science either but most of us like something a little kick.
 

Tuco420

Active Member
What hermie issues in fems?
I grow fems all the time and never get hermies. Am I just that much better of a grower or is the "female seeds are hermie prones" false propoganda?
Your not reading the post correctly i said to avoid the "POSSIBLE" hermie issues in fem's. I have grown about 100 or more fem's, useally with good results, however out of a 100 or more i have probably had 15 hermies and a couple straight up males. To me it's just not worth the risk anymore, so if given the choice i will always go with the regular version of a strain over fem's

To each his own, that's just my $.02. :peace:
 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
The CBD Crew is Scott Blakey (AKA Shantibaba, owner/breeder of Mr. Nice Seeds), Howard Marks and Jamie from Resin Seeds.

Somehow I do not believe that Shanti is ripping himself off.
If you had taken the time to read just two more posts of the thread you'd have noticed i already stated this so as to correct my previously incorrect statement ;)
 

Brick Top

New Member
i aint arguing science either but most of us like something a little kick.

Sure, some do. Those who are not looking for the very best medication they can find for their medical problems and who instead want some medicinal value but still be able to 'get high' or get 'stoned,' those who really want Mr. Toad's Wild Ride but want it to do double duty and help them at least somewhat medicinally too.

I cannot quote State laws but they do include driving while impaired and that includes driving while high or stoned. Many medicinal users need to be able to continue as normal of a life as possible given their medical condition(s). Some have to have a totally clear head and be able to focus so they can work. Some have to be able to safely, and legally, drop off the kids at school and later pick them up and then take them to their piano lessons or gymnastics class or whatever. Some have to be able to do the Betty Crocker thing and host family gatherings for special occasions, birthdays for children or parents or grandparents that have reached some milestone age, or Thanksgivings or Christmases, etc. and they cannot be in Oz, they cannot be drifting around in their minds ozone layer and be able to do those things. Some have no desire to 'get high' or 'get stoned,' they only want to be able to have some quality of life and be able to function as well as they possibly can given their specific situation.

One big problem that holds back some States from becoming medical marijuana States, and has others that have already become medical marijuana States having such extreme limitations on it's use and growing it is that to many, including many medicinal patients, it is seen as being a 'recreational drug' that also has some medicinal value. As long as patients seek Mr. Toad's Wild Ride in what they consider to be medicinal strains cannabis will have a much more difficult time being accepted as true medication, and that will continue to keep States from going med use and keep others from allowing more expansive use by more people for more ailments. It will never be seen as legitimate medication as long as patients demand and seek out ever more potent (as in levels of THC) strains.

Medicinal marijuana has been proven to be very beneficial in cases of childhood autism. But how many people would have a problem with feeding a child cookies or whatever made from a high THC level strain and then sending them off to school or to play while cloud surfing? But if the same children can receive help and have a better quality of life, and not be buzzed, than far more people will say it's Kool and the Gang to treat a child with medical marijuana.

A Novel Approach to the Symptomatic Treatment of Autism - By Lester Grinspoon, MD. From O'Shaughnessy's // Summer 2010​
Cannabis Treatment in Childhood Autism - By Phillip A Denney, MD. From O'Shaughnessy's // Summer 2009


Only when seen and accepted by the masses, and by politicians, as legitimate medication, rather than something to keep Beavis and Butthead entertained, will more States, and possibly the entire country, on the Federal level, have not only access to medical marijuana, but access to it for a much broader range of treatments and cures for vastly more people with far more different types of medical conditions than now.






 

Brick Top

New Member
If you had taken the time to read just two more posts of the thread you'd have noticed i already stated this so as to correct my previously incorrect statement ;)

I tend to respond as I read rather than read an entire thread and then go back and respond. I think most people do that. That would explain why someone will get the same answer 2, 3, 15 times or so in one thread. If people read the entire thread and saw that message 19 or 17 answered something asked or said on message 4 or 9 people wouldn't bother to repeat what someone else said, unless of course they had some valuable additional information to add.
 

Brick Top

New Member
What hermie issues in fems?
I grow fems all the time and never get hermies. Am I just that much better of a grower or is the "female seeds are hermie prones" false propoganda?

I would not say that you are a; "better" grower than someone else because you have not had any hermied feminized seeds/plants yet. I'd just call it being lucky.

Anyone who has grown long enough to have had a good deal of experience with regular seeds when that was all that was available and then has since seen the increase in numbers of hermies since feminized seeds became available knows for a fact that they are more hermie prone. Some are worse than others, some aren't bad at all and others are terrible, some are notorious for the percentage of hermies you get from them.

But if someone has a couple decades or more of growing experience, they know the truth about feminized seeds.
 

Yoghurts

Member
Hello all,

Does anyone know for sure that the CBD crew seeds at the attitude are genuine?
I read somewhere 'that someone thought' that The Seedsman was the only place they were going to be available?

Just curious, because i 'heard' that they had sold 'phony' DJ Shorts seeds in the past.

Thanks. :)
 

Refusedpanda

Active Member
Hello all,

Does anyone know for sure that the CBD crew seeds at the attitude are genuine?
I read somewhere 'that someone thought' that The Seedsman was the only place they were going to be available?

Just curious, because i 'heard' that they had sold 'phony' DJ Shorts seeds in the past.

Thanks. :)
I believe they're legit, the tude would not do such a thing.
 

canna_420

Well-Known Member
Hello all,

Does anyone know for sure that the CBD crew seeds at the attitude are genuine?
I read somewhere 'that someone thought' that The Seedsman was the only place they were going to be available?

Just curious, because i 'heard' that they had sold 'phony' DJ Shorts seeds in the past.

Thanks. :)
I thought ones. I try not to anymore
 
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