CBD a cure schizophrenia

ford442

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well.. we need active CBD - not non-heated CBDa - therefore you could vape or eat it, but it would need to be heated and therefore get you miles high at the same time..
this is exactly why i want CBD extract for everyone!! it has a lot of uses besides AP..
here - from a testing lab website -

  • Helps control certain cancers
  • Helps with controlling pain
  • Stimulates bone growth
  • Stops growth of bacteria
  • Suppresses muscle spasms and convulsions
  • Slows Inflammation
  • Helps with nausea
  • Reduces the risk of artery obstructions
  • Decreases pressure in the blood vessel walls
  • Reduces blood sugar levels
  • Assists in controlling epileptic seizures
  • Helps reduce risk of nerve damage
  • Decreases the social isolation caused by THC
 

ford442

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i was given a medical pot card in CA for schizophrenia - they had to see that it was my condition and they did not recommend that i rely 100% on pot - they said that if it eased my suffering then it was the intended goal. they did insist on seeing some of my treatment records and carefully examining them. this was a pot doc, not a specialist in mental health.
 

LWD

Active Member
So they believed that it would ease your suffering, but not be the 100 percent solution. You still need pharma meds to keep you stable. What it is like having pot as a supplemental medication? As far as relieving symptoms? Is it true that pot has negative interactions with medication, or is that all BS? How did you retrieve your treatment records btw, did your doctors office release them to you? I'm interested in receiving medical MJ as well. I'd just be at a loss as to what to say the benefit of pot would be for my condition, what did you say?
 

ford442

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i told them that pot helps reduce the anxiety that i feel as a result of my illness. my doctors do not require me to continue anti-psychotics, but they always suggest it in the case that i feel bad. i have tried to stop the pills before, with somewhat bad results. weed helps my mood and thinking stay upbeat. without it i felt like days and weeks would go by without smiling or having an interesting thought. i would just sit there and gain weight. when i started smoking again was when i lost 100lbs and felt better overall. at my county mental health doc appointment i asked for a copy of some records. they didn't like it, but i managed to get a few pages which i handed over to the pot doc. i think it would have been fine just requesting the documents from the pot office - i know that my county doc is ok with it - he suggested it for my mom when she had cancer - and my county is one of the more green in CA. but, i managed to circumvent that and move the records by hand.
 

OGEvilgenius

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learn about cannabinoid receptors in your body and you will learn why inhalation is the only choice for schizophrenic users.
I understand cannabinoid receptors fairly well. I'm not sure why this would be the case unless the liver metabolized it into a completely different chemical (which is probably likely).
 

ford442

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i don't think that there is any hard and fast rule. hopefully Colorado and Washington can iron out some scientific facts for us in the near future..!
 

oakley1984

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I understand cannabinoid receptors fairly well. I'm not sure why this would be the case unless the liver metabolized it into a completely different chemical (which is probably likely).
there are 2 sets of cannabinoid receptors. each target a different area of the body.

1 set is in your respiratory system, these are the b1 canabinoid receptors. these have a direct path to your brain. the neurological center of your body.
the 2nd set... the b2 receptors are located within your digestive tract. these distribute cannbinoids to a wider area of the body. b2 receptors are better for people with chronic pain, arthritus etc..
b1 receptors are better to be targeted for people with nerve and neurological disorders.

Do some research before you talk.
sorry to be rude but misinformation when you are dealing with psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia... is. dangerous to say the least!
 

ford442

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from wiki - "Further investigation into the expression patterns of the CB2 receptors revealed that CB2 receptor gene transcripts are also expressed in the brain, though not as densely as the CB1 receptor and located on different cells. Unlike the CB1 receptor, in the brain, CB2 receptors are found primarily on microglia, but not neurons."

also - there are lots of cannabinoid receptors - CB1 and CB2 are just the most prominent. in ancient times people like jesus were anointed with cannabis oil on their head. there are always different methods of ingestion, however - i am willing to bet that the psych docs of three years from now will prefer a pill to a 6 foot bong.
 

OGEvilgenius

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there are 2 sets of cannabinoid receptors. each target a different area of the body.

1 set is in your respiratory system, these are the b1 canabinoid receptors. these have a direct path to your brain. the neurological center of your body.
the 2nd set... the b2 receptors are located within your digestive tract. these distribute cannbinoids to a wider area of the body. b2 receptors are better for people with chronic pain, arthritus etc..
b1 receptors are better to be targeted for people with nerve and neurological disorders.

Do some research before you talk.
sorry to be rude but misinformation when you are dealing with psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia... is. dangerous to say the least!
I asked you a question. I didn't spread any misinformation, at all. Medibles have a much stronger psychological affect for many people.

I am aware there are CB1 and CB2 receptors. Guess what? They are everywhere in your body. CB1 is indeed more concentrated in the brain, than CB2, but guess what? CBD doesn't have any strong affinity for either of them as well, so my question was rather reasonable. CBD instead interacts with other cannabinoids (including those in your body) to modulate effect.

Quite often people requiring high dosages ingest orally because it's a lot easier to consume high dosages. You were complaining about how much you have to smoke. Also, oral ingestion tends to last longer. The chemicals are metabolized differently however and can be changed, so I asked a really reasonable question and now you're accusing me of spreading false information.

Anyway, I asked because epileptics, people in a lot of pain and others who require high CBD medication have had a lot of success with medibles, so it seemed like it could be a potential option. So I ask you a question, which you still haven't really answered and instead called me an idiot spreading false information.

Thanks for adding nothing to the discussion.
 

uiod

Member
Hello i have schizophreniform or a weaker form of schizo. im on a bunch of invega and slowly gaining weight. but thats because my own fault. i do not eat healthy. im all the time eating fast food and drinking soda. i do try to eat healthy but when my parents go out to eat im always getting fast food with them. no im not a little kid but i live with my parents because they help care for me. i got on disabilty but i had to go in front of a judge and explaine to him what is going on with me with a lawyer. ive been smoke free for many years now but i used to grow and had another name on this site but its been so long since ive been on i forgot the username and pass. i just hope to god i dont get t2 diebeatys. i didnt think i would get that till i read another post on here that someone got it after 5 years of phyc meds. ive been on them about that long and its a scary thought. i was really bad off meds going to in patient unit many times till i stayed on my meds now im stable for years now but i could probably relaps at any time. i miss smoking the way it would lift my spirit but i dont miss the dulisions thinking people were after me and scared of everyone. this thread was a nice read hopefully there will come out with some better meds in the future. maybe ill exercise and eat right in the future too instead of surfing forums in the computer chair for hours lol.
 

LWD

Active Member
Hi uiod, I tried for my disability but was declined, what did you tell the judge in order for you case to become approved? You should really get exercise, since that a diet are the top things that can prevent diabetes. I've been taking psych meds for 10 years, and probably would have diabetes if it were not for preventive measures such as diet and exercise. Legalization needs to move ahead fast, I need to smoke.
 

uiod

Member
i took my caseworker from mental health facility with me and the lawyer and i had to explaine all my old jobs i worked at and what i did at work then my lawyer did a bunch of the talking then she sent me out of the room and her and my caseworker both talked to the judge in private and told him all my symptoms and dulisions. i came back in and the jugde didnt ask me about it but just went over what the two said to him. i was kind of embarrresed because some of my dulsions are far out there. but he sent me out of the room again and the lawyer said i was pretty much good to go and i found out later that they did aprove me. i had applied 3 times and was turn down so i was paid a bunch of backpay from when i first applied. i pretty much didnt have to do anything excpept tell the judge about my old jobs ive had before i was schizo. if you have to call one of those lawyers from tv im sure it would help. my lawyer was local and has done tons of cases in my area. i did have to do a lot of talking to the lawyer and get her med papers and such so if you get one be prepaired for lots of meetings before u see the judge. best of luck
 

Zachyeal

Member
Hey OP, another kind of schizo here, grew up with childhood schizophrenia, and I believe in what you're saying, though I have a though. Keep a log book of your progress with mmj, and you'll be able to contrast how you were before and how it affected you after. That's what I've been doing, I was taking 300mgs seroquel twice a day, 30mgs geodon twice a day, 50mgs trazodone once, 300mgs gabapentin twice a day, and 100mgs topamax once a day, and after damn near 5 months worth of logs, I can safely say all those pills don't hold a candle to that sticky green plant. The screwed up thing is, I don't even feel most of the intoxicating effects, aside from slightly slower motor functions, and having really red eyes, and I don't even need to use much to be good for an entire day, if not two. I've also never felt so energetic, and healthy, clear headed and calm, or at least, not with all that bullshit those doctors were pumping me with before. Keep the faith man, keep a log, be professional about this situation, if you want to see any results. Best of luck in all of your endeavors.
 
have any of you schizo's here ever tried eating large amounts of cannabis oil. rick simpson has cured many diffrent ppl with your condition. i dont get why you wouldn't want to cure your medical condition?
 

ford442

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have any of you schizo's here ever tried eating large amounts of cannabis oil. rick simpson has cured many diffrent ppl with your condition. i dont get why you wouldn't want to cure your medical condition?
the rick simpson cure for cancer costs thousands of dollars - most schizophrenics live on $800 or so per month of govt disability money.
 
what state do they live in? if the got a med card they can grow a plant in there back yard for like 150 and cure there shit. i want to help as many ppl as i can. thats why once i move to cali im going to do the same thing rick did. just not on as a grand scale as he did. ill just help out as many ppl as i can
 
i got 6 k in the bank waiting to move. i just need my wife to finish school and ill be in northern cali with you bro. shit i live around chicago but i stay smoking on fire cali collie
 

ford442

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i am allowed to grow a few plants, but again - i have never heard of anyone cured of schizo-anything.. show me one human being cured of schizo-affective disorders by any means and i will be there.. otherwise that is a plant that will keep my family and friends smoking through the year..
 
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