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Hello all
First of all, I will be applying for my MMAR, and with my conditions they are cat 1 and 2...i'm pretty sure i will be aproved. I'm debating on moving to my cottage and setting up a grow. I've heard that I can also grow for 2 other people. I would like an honest opinion if a single man can make an ok living from doing this? I'm not looking to get rich, i just want to get away and live in peace with my plants. I will be producing a detailed plan for my operation on the application. Will i be able to ask for patients that require larger amounts? I just don't want to get stuck with someone who requires like 5 plants/ year when i want to be producing all year around.
 
Pharoah

Pharoah

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Well, first off all, that's not how it works at all.

Stating all of this on your MMAR is a surefire way to get arrested for possession with intent to traffic. You CANNOT under any circumstance charge for the product itself, that is flat out illegal, no matter who you are (much of the MMAR is being thrown into question at this time due to charges related). You can however, request the cost's for power, and cost's surrounding it. From my understanding, in 2014, we will see "Commercial growers and distributors" who sell to only "Prescribed" patients, these patients would obtain the equivalent of a prescription from their doctors, displaying the amount, usage, etc, their going to essentially make it the same as any other prescription, and take away the decision of the patient as to their requirements for relief from their ailments. Growers and Distributors from my understanding are going to be required to pay upwards to $500,000 for the ability to grow/produce commercially. So for right now, you would get arrested for stating that on your MMAR application, very stupid move by a LARGE shot. And unless you have mid 6 figure monies just layin around, I highly doubt your going to be doing it then either. Also, you do not "Ask" for patients who need growers, HC only approved designated growers, they don't provide them for patients, and they don't find patients for them.

Plant count is not a per year basis at all, in a 5 plant count scenario, you would be allowed to grow 5 plants, at all times. Once you harvest those 5 plants, you can plant 5 more. The thing you have to concern yourself with, is the specifics, such as anything from a sprouted seed to a full grown plant and everything in between is counted toward "plant count", everything from harvest and on is considered "Storage".

Back to the first portion of my response, if you think telling the government your going to sell your product is a smart move, then by all means, do so, or you can do like everyone else who wants to make money off other peoples suffering, and sell it to the patients, and those in the black market which is both illegal, and for me personally, is a complete disgrace to the MMAR program and makes all of us who are suffering, and will continue to suffer at the hands of big pharma in 2014 from people planning exactly what your planning, only I don't believe they were stupid enough to consider telling the government that that is what they are going to do. I personally consider this to be no different than someone faking to get their MMAR just so they can legally have and grow weed. But again, this is just my opinion.
 
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Pharoah said:
Well, first off all, that's not how it works at all.

Stating all of this on your MMAR is a surefire way to get arrested for possession with intent to traffic. You CANNOT under any circumstance charge for the product itself, that is flat out illegal, no matter who you are (much of the MMAR is being thrown into question at this time due to charges related). You can however, request the cost's for power, and cost's surrounding it. From my understanding, in 2014, we will see "Commercial growers and distributors" who sell to only "Prescribed" patients, these patients would obtain the equivalent of a prescription from their doctors, displaying the amount, usage, etc, their going to essentially make it the same as any other prescription, and take away the decision of the patient as to their requirements for relief from their ailments. Growers and Distributors from my understanding are going to be required to pay upwards to $500,000 for the ability to grow/produce commercially. So for right now, you would get arrested for stating that on your MMAR application, very stupid move by a LARGE shot. And unless you have mid 6 figure monies just layin around, I highly doubt your going to be doing it then either. Also, you do not "Ask" for patients who need growers, HC only approved designated growers, they don't provide them for patients, and they don't find patients for them.

Plant count is not a per year basis at all, in a 5 plant count scenario, you would be allowed to grow 5 plants, at all times. Once you harvest those 5 plants, you can plant 5 more. The thing you have to concern yourself with, is the specifics, such as anything from a sprouted seed to a full grown plant and everything in between is counted toward "plant count", everything from harvest and on is considered "Storage".

Back to the first portion of my response, if you think telling the government your going to sell your product is a smart move, then by all means, do so, or you can do like everyone else who wants to make money off other peoples suffering, and sell it to the patients, and those in the black market which is both illegal, and for me personally, is a complete disgrace to the MMAR program and makes all of us who are suffering, and will continue to suffer at the hands of big pharma in 2014 from people planning exactly what your planning, only I don't believe they were stupid enough to consider telling the government that that is what they are going to do. I personally consider this to be no different than someone faking to get their MMAR just so they can legally have and grow weed. But again, this is just my opinion.
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I obviously wasn't clear on my question, but i'm not stupid and i don't plan on stating anything of this manner on my applictaions. I don't plan on "selling" it and I don't have a grow op set up. But i will set be making a grow room ONCE MY OWN MEDICAL CANNABIS APPLICATION is approved and completely legal. What i WAS asking, was do caregivers get paid for growing MEDICAL CANNABIS, for MEDICAL CANNABIS PATIENTS who cannot grow their own MEDICAL CANNABIS. I find it hard to belive they would only pay electricity and supplies considering there is SO MUCH WORK to be done in growing and harvest. No one works for free my friend. I only ask if anyone knows specifics, because i have been told that caregivers will recieve 2000$ per LB/plant. Something according to health canada that no matter what 1 plant will produce 1 LB of cannabis. Sounds crazy yes, which is why i'm creating this forum to try and confirm because i cannot find anyinformation online. So i'd appreciate you not assuming i'm some sort of brainless criminal. and if you don't believe me that caregivers are for hire, well check this site out. Oh and this quote: "To get approved to grow your own or grow for someone else, you must take precautions to protect your plants and dried storage from theft. Health Canada is very strict with the security measures and your approval to grow depends on satisfying them. There are no minimum requirements but if Health Canada doesn’t like what you put on your application they will call you to discuss them."

http://medicalmarihuana.ca/for-growers/sell-marijuana-legally
 
Pharoah

Pharoah

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I obviously wasn't clear on my question, but i'm not stupid and i don't plan on stating anything of this manner on my applictaions. I don't plan on "selling" it and I don't have a grow op set up. But i will set be making a grow room ONCE MY OWN MEDICAL CANNABIS APPLICATION is approved and completely legal. What i WAS asking, was do caregivers get paid for growing MEDICAL CANNABIS, for MEDICAL CANNABIS PATIENTS who cannot grow their own MEDICAL CANNABIS. I find it hard to belive they would only pay electricity and supplies considering there is SO MUCH WORK to be done in growing and harvest. No one works for free my friend. I only ask if anyone knows specifics, because i have been told that caregivers will recieve 2000$ per LB/plant. Something according to health canada that no matter what 1 plant will produce 1 LB of cannabis. Sounds crazy yes, which is why i'm creating this forum to try and confirm because i cannot find anyinformation online. So i'd appreciate you not assuming i'm some sort of brainless criminal. and if you don't believe me that caregivers are for hire, well check this site out. Oh and this quote: "To get approved to grow your own or grow for someone else, you must take precautions to protect your plants and dried storage from theft. Health Canada is very strict with the security measures and your approval to grow depends on satisfying them. There are no minimum requirements but if Health Canada doesn’t like what you put on your application they will call you to discuss them."

http://medicalmarihuana.ca/for-growers/sell-marijuana-legally
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That site is not Health Canada's site, and yes, it is ILLEGAL to sell product, even to your licensed patient. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, I'm stating some facts, if you want to take information from an unofficial site, than by all means, do so and you'll be sorry. HC WILL NOT assign you a patient, they will not provide you with a list of patients, you must find your own people to be a DG for, and if you charge them for it, then you run the risk of being charged with trafficking, if you don't want to take my word for it, call HC and ask them what your asking here, for a couple of reasons it would be better because;

1) They will tell you EXACTLY what you want to know
2) You won't be putting the safety of your grow in jeopardy by following anyone else's but HC's answers.

This is a very touchy subject, and the way you approached it was in all honesty, from a drug dealers point of view, your not looking to be compensated for your time and materials, you want to be able to live off these people's illness's, which is to be frank disgusting. Nobody that grows for other people should be making a "Fulltime job income" to tend to plants for 2 hours a day max. Charge the cost's incurred, and a little for time, but that's it... the ONLY money that should be resting in your pocket at the end of the day is what you would request for "time" and even then, the police and some judges ain't gonna look at it that way, which leaves you boned...

Consider what your doing here, as you don't even apply to BE a DG, someone who has their MMAR assigns you as their DG.

Point is, do some research before this endeavor...

As for those people who have told you that caregivers receive $2000/lb is doing it illegally, because it doesn't COST $2000 to grow a plant. Sorry man, just how it is I'm afraid, and it's only going to get worse, soon... we ain't even gonna be allowed to grow our own (2014) unless you havn't been following up on the news and drug reform laws that are going to be phased in at that point.

On a similar note, I know of DG's who charge only $3/g which works out to $1344/lb, and even some that do it for free.
 
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Pharoah said:
That site is not Health Canada's site, and yes, it is ILLEGAL to sell product, even to your licensed patient. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, I'm stating some facts, if you want to take information from an unofficial site, than by all means, do so and you'll be sorry. HC WILL NOT assign you a patient, they will not provide you with a list of patients, you must find your own people to be a DG for, and if you charge them for it, then you run the risk of being charged with trafficking, if you don't want to take my word for it, call HC and ask them what your asking here, for a couple of reasons it would be better because;

1) They will tell you EXACTLY what you want to know
2) You won't be putting the safety of your grow in jeopardy by following anyone else's but HC's answers.

This is a very touchy subject, and the way you approached it was in all honesty, from a drug dealers point of view, your not looking to be compensated for your time and materials, you want to be able to live off these people's illness's, which is to be frank disgusting. Nobody that grows for other people should be making a "Fulltime job income" to tend to plants for 2 hours a day max. Charge the cost's incurred, and a little for time, but that's it... the ONLY money that should be resting in your pocket at the end of the day is what you would request for "time" and even then, the police and some judges ain't gonna look at it that way, which leaves you boned...

Consider what your doing here, as you don't even apply to BE a DG, someone who has their MMAR assigns you as their DG.

Point is, do some research before this endeavor...

As for those people who have told you that caregivers receive $2000/lb is doing it illegally, because it doesn't COST $2000 to grow a plant. Sorry man, just how it is I'm afraid, and it's only going to get worse, soon... we ain't even gonna be allowed to grow our own (2014) unless you havn't been following up on the news and drug reform laws that are going to be phased in at that point.

On a similar note, I know of DG's who charge only $3/g which works out to $1344/lb, and even some that do it for free.
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Ok well looks like i was very much mis informed. Thanks for the info.
 
Pharoah

Pharoah

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Yes, unfortunately, you were misinformed, I continually correct everyone and anyone who says "I grow for the government" or "I know someone who grows for the government" because it's just not the case, nobody but HC is allowed to grow AND sell cannabis, which to be frank is BS, I believe if more legitimate people sell product, it would create competition and lower prices to a much more IMO acceptable price.

If you want to grow for patients, then by all means, do so, but you'll HAVE to conduct illegal trades to "live comfortably" if this is your only means of "income".

Sorry I flew off on you in the first reply, it just this very thing is what organized crime does to have themselves "Legal grows" just so they are allowed to grow it...
 
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Pharoah said:
Yes, unfortunately, you were misinformed, I continually correct everyone and anyone who says "I grow for the government" or "I know someone who grows for the government" because it's just not the case, nobody but HC is allowed to grow AND sell cannabis, which to be frank is BS, I believe if more legitimate people sell product, it would create competition and lower prices to a much more IMO acceptable price.

If you want to grow for patients, then by all means, do so, but you'll HAVE to conduct illegal trades to "live comfortably" if this is your only means of "income".

Sorry I flew off on you in the first reply, it just this very thing is what organized crime does to have themselves "Legal grows" just so they are allowed to grow it...
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Nah its ok. Seemed kinda far fetched either way, but was worth the inquiry. I guess is back to plan A: lol, go back to school to get my degree in Horticultual tech/greenhouse tech, and put in a resume to the factory in Flin Flon. Hey, a man can dream ;) Cheers
 
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RichardHUR

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Duno what you seem to be so worked up over Pharoah.
Personally as someone who has a designated grower, I can speak from experience and say that I pay $5/gram from him. He sends a receipt with my weed and then I pay him through an e-transfer.

The idea of becoming a designated grower and giving your product away to patients is completely ridiculous. Having a garden like that, especially if you're growing for yourself and 2 patients with a 4 or 5 gram recommendation is really time consuming. Not only that, but it costs a bunch of money for lights, pots, nutes, power, etc.
To assume someone would be willing to take on this burden is ridiculous.
 
Pharoah

Pharoah

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RichardHUR said:
Duno what you seem to be so worked up over Pharoah.
Personally as someone who has a designated grower, I can speak from experience and say that I pay $5/gram from him. He sends a receipt with my weed and then I pay him through an e-transfer.

The idea of becoming a designated grower and giving your product away to patients is completely ridiculous. Having a garden like that, especially if you're growing for yourself and 2 patients with a 4 or 5 gram recommendation is really time consuming. Not only that, but it costs a bunch of money for lights, pots, nutes, power, etc.
To assume someone would be willing to take on this burden is ridiculous.
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Again, cost's incurred are allowed to be charged for, additional charges are not, unfortunately, unless your DG shows you it's costing him $5/g to produce your medicine, he's not legally allowed to charge you that $5 is my point. And it makes the rest of the DG's look bad in the eyes of the government, due to the fact that their NOT allowed to charge for it anything over and above cost. Call HC and ask them if DG's are allowed to "Sell" you cannabis at over cost to. This is the MAIN reason the MMAR program is being reformed, and possibly even shut down... is because it was not intended to give people a "Get out of jail free" card on selling weed. Even to patients.

So there you have it, my beef with it, it makes the rest of us look bad... a legal drug dealer doesn't go over well with the public, ya know, the ones that VOTE and the ones that also support or do not support our mission...


I would also like to add a thank you to you and everyone else who signed one of the people on... your Designated grower and others like him... is the reason the rest of us are losing our abilities to grow our own meds in 2 years...


Would also like to add, I know people who charge $3 or less for their meds... some don't charge at all and accepts donations, some work out the expenses and charges their patients a portion of that...
 
Pharoah

Pharoah

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I would also like to add one more point, maybe this will help people see the reality of things.

Don't just take the word of a grower than it cost's $5 to produce a single gram, because I'll lay out some FACTS.

FACT 1: I pay between $2600-$2800 for my monthly meds from street dealers.
FACT 2: They pay between $2400-$2600 for that same lb, and makes $200 from me, the patient
FACT 3: The person they buy from is NOT the grower, so they pay $2000-$2200 per lb, so they make between $400-$600 per lb from me, the patient.
FACT 4: Odds are , even the person described in FACT 3 is NOT the grower, but the importer, and they pay between $1400-$1600/lb, so they make between $400-$600/lb, so the grower in the end, is charging between $1400 and $1600 per lb, which works out to $3.125 per gram, and THEIR making profit or they wouldn't do it. So cost's = less than $3/gram

With all of these facts put in place, I find it hard for your DG to justify charging $5/gram when it cost's him significantly less to produce, by at least half what he's charging you if not more. How can you be ok with someone earning 100%+ profit OVER AND ABOVE continuing cost's to supply you with meds to relieve to of your symptoms.

Before assuming the cost's to grow, try growing and find out first hand... the ONLY part about growing that's costly is the initial cost's, for materials and such. as upkeep won't be costly due to the money saved on NOT paying $5 for every gram. This also gives you the ability to help other MMAR patients you know between crops, or unable to physically grow their own, by providing them with cheap if not free med's during hard times, instead of letting someone else take all the leftovers from YOUR plant count to sell on the street for the prices listed in the FACTS portion of this post, earning profits on sick and injured people...
 
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RichardHUR

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Pharoah said:
I would also like to add one more point, maybe this will help people see the reality of things.

Don't just take the word of a grower than it cost's $5 to produce a single gram, because I'll lay out some FACTS.

FACT 1: I pay between $2600-$2800 for my monthly meds from street dealers.
FACT 2: They pay between $2400-$2600 for that same lb, and makes $200 from me, the patient
FACT 3: The person they buy from is NOT the grower, so they pay $2000-$2200 per lb, so they make between $400-$600 per lb from me, the patient.
FACT 4: Odds are , even the person described in FACT 3 is NOT the grower, but the importer, and they pay between $1400-$1600/lb, so they make between $400-$600/lb, so the grower in the end, is charging between $1400 and $1600 per lb, which works out to $3.125 per gram, and THEIR making profit or they wouldn't do it. So cost's = less than $3/gram

With all of these facts put in place, I find it hard for your DG to justify charging $5/gram when it cost's him significantly less to produce, by at least half what he's charging you if not more. How can you be ok with someone earning 100%+ profit OVER AND ABOVE continuing cost's to supply you with meds to relieve to of your symptoms.

Before assuming the cost's to grow, try growing and find out first hand... the ONLY part about growing that's costly is the initial cost's, for materials and such. as upkeep won't be costly due to the money saved on NOT paying $5 for every gram. This also gives you the ability to help other MMAR patients you know between crops, or unable to physically grow their own, by providing them with cheap if not free med's during hard times, instead of letting someone else take all the leftovers from YOUR plant count to sell on the street for the prices listed in the FACTS portion of this post, earning profits on sick and injured people...
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We live in a capitalistic society and we're dealing with an unregulated drug that can get a lot of money on the streets.
To assume any person wouldn't take advantage of that situation is silly.
There is always going to be people fucking something up, you have to accept that. To blame them as the reason why this program isn't working out would be preposterous. The only thing that proves is that Health Canada was naive about the way they set up their program.

Growing weed and selling it to a patient who is legally allowed to have it is perfectly fine. You've drawn this arbitrary line in the sand that doesn't have any basis to stand on.
Whats the difference between someone going out, catching fish and then selling them later for profit? They put the work in, they should get the rewards. Its the exact same thing with weed, except its in a legal grey area and a lot of people like to be uppity about political correctness.
 
Pharoah

Pharoah

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RichardHUR said:
We live in a capitalistic society and we're dealing with an unregulated drug that can get a lot of money on the streets.
To assume any person wouldn't take advantage of that situation is silly.
There is always going to be people fucking something up, you have to accept that. To blame them as the reason why this program isn't working out would be preposterous. The only thing that proves is that Health Canada was naive about the way they set up their program.

Growing weed and selling it to a patient who is legally allowed to have it is perfectly fine. You've drawn this arbitrary line in the sand that doesn't have any basis to stand on.
Whats the difference between someone going out, catching fish and then selling them later for profit? They put the work in, they should get the rewards. Its the exact same thing with weed, except its in a legal grey area and a lot of people like to be uppity about political correctness.
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Again, your NOT allowed to "Sell" cannabis, even to a licensed patient... There is no "Line without basis", LAW will tell you the basis... READ YOU MARR DOCUMENTATION, IT SAYS IT RIGHT ON THEM!!! READ:

As for your other point, Fish don't help me gain a quality of life, nor does it alleviate my pain and suffering. To compare the two is what's the word you chose? Preposterous.

But you are right, we live in a capitalist society, it doesn't mean everyone has to fuck everything up for everyone else. I grow MY MEDICINE according to the outlines in my MMAR, and destroy anything over and above my legal limit. I have a child that can be taken away from me VERY easily because I am a MMAR patient and grow my own medicine.

Don't pretend to know what can and cannot be done under the MMAR exemption, and then posting it here giving everyone else bad advice...

I'm sorry that you feel it's justified to earn 100+% profit from SOMEONE ELSE'S PRESCRIPTION!!! Sorry to say, but I know of NO other narcotic with which one can even "Sell" it to their friends, even if their friends have valid scripts... While those substances are controlled, Cannabis is still ILLEGAL with a few people being exempted from POSSESSION LAWS, try selling a bag to another MMAR patient and get caught... see how "Legal" it is and how quickly your MMAR gets revoked, and you end up on your ass with no MMAR.

NOBODY BUT HC IS ALLOWED TO "PROFIT" FROM THE PRODUCTION OF CANNABIS... PERIOD...



This is DIRECTLY from the HC documentation;

Does NOT allow others to have ANY of your marijuana (including seeds) in their possession (other MMAR patients included).

Does NOT allow you to sell or give any of your marijuana (including seeds) to others.

Sorry bud, but what your saying is the equivalent of pissing in the wind, a personally produced shower... and you're advising others to piss in the wind with you?? Wake up...


EDIT: I put my foot in my mouth a little too soon here.

Just got off the phone with HC, inquiring about this in great detail. And the answer that I received in short is this;

A DG is allowed to work out a payment scheme for only their licensed patients. HC holds no jurisdiction over this, and is between the patient and the grower to come up with a payment schedule that is acceptable to both parties.

So for the OP, apparently you can make a career out of this. I personally still don't condone profiting off someones illness, but maybe I'm human... not many of us around anymore...

I've also included this question and answer in my MMAR Faq, without my personal opinion attached to it.
 
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RichardHUR

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I briefly skimmed that cluster fuck of words you just smashed together.
Chill out; no one is going to read or listen to your opinion if you can't keep your shit together on and internet forum.

Also your "edit" just contradicts all the nonsense you blew out at the beginning of your post.
Why are you so upset man? I can't even understand you with all the emotion you're throwing into this.
(I actually don't give a shit. I'm actually not even going to read your reply, just like I didn't with the last one. Calm down sir)
 
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jessica d

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Many things like electricity, grow equipment, genetics, vehicles and gas are needed.

Security can be very costly, big dogs, video survelance, person to guard and so much more

The facility and equipment indoors, land outdoors and tools like a 4 wheeler or many others

Lawyers can be very expensive as well and they run a fine line to be locked up for time=$$.

It takes me over 20hrs to trim 1lb of Grape Krush in comparison to 10hrs with other strains so all strains and growing/trimming/curing practices can vary so much. I have strains for critically ill ppl that are difficult but it all Depends if you have a $1-10k trimming machine

It is a big puzzle to do it correctly and it does cost alot of money in some setups "correctly". So many variables. Anyone putting a $$ on the costs to do it is guessing. I would get into a different line of work if you want to make alot of $$$:bigjoint:

Lastly not all sick medical users are broke or equal. Many are very wealthy infact and it would be wrong that a lawyer/dentist making 100k should pay rock bottom prices to the guy producing his medicine that would take the fall, spends days bent over trimming until his neck/hands are numb and lives the life of a grower. Wish you luck in the career you decide:eyesmoke:
 
Pharoah

Pharoah

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RichardHUR said:
I briefly skimmed that cluster fuck of words you just smashed together.
Chill out; no one is going to read or listen to your opinion if you can't keep your shit together on and internet forum.

Also your "edit" just contradicts all the nonsense you blew out at the beginning of your post.
Why are you so upset man? I can't even understand you with all the emotion you're throwing into this.
(I actually don't give a shit. I'm actually not even going to read your reply, just like I didn't with the last one. Calm down sir)
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A clusterfuck of words is a wall of text, my post was laid out well... Reading more will help with your reading issues.

On the edit note, I do not edit post's and REMOVE content... simply because I'm not ashamed to admit, and even show where I made a mistake...

As far as me being upset, I have good reason to be upset, one of the only things I can actually do is grow my own medicine, and that's being taken away from me because of illicit sales... and in my personal opinion, this lack of control on HC's part is one of the reasons for the reform, so that random nobody's like your DG can't make a buck off of selling cannabis, even to their licensed patients, by having a number of licensed mass producers to replace all PPL's and DG's.
 
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ShadesOfBlue

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Pharoah said:
That site is not Health Canada's site, and yes, it is ILLEGAL to sell product, even to your licensed patient. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, I'm stating some facts, if you want to take information from an unofficial site, than by all means, do so and you'll be sorry. HC WILL NOT assign you a patient, they will not provide you with a list of patients, you must find your own people to be a DG for, and if you charge them for it, then you run the risk of being charged with trafficking, if you don't want to take my word for it, call HC and ask them what your asking here, for a couple of reasons it would be better because;

1) They will tell you EXACTLY what you want to know
2) You won't be putting the safety of your grow in jeopardy by following anyone else's but HC's answers.

This is a very touchy subject, and the way you approached it was in all honesty, from a drug dealers point of view, your not looking to be compensated for your time and materials, you want to be able to live off these people's illness's, which is to be frank disgusting. Nobody that grows for other people should be making a "Fulltime job income" to tend to plants for 2 hours a day max. Charge the cost's incurred, and a little for time, but that's it... the ONLY money that should be resting in your pocket at the end of the day is what you would request for "time" and even then, the police and some judges ain't gonna look at it that way, which leaves you boned...

Consider what your doing here, as you don't even apply to BE a DG, someone who has their MMAR assigns you as their DG.

Point is, do some research before this endeavor...

As for those people who have told you that caregivers receive $2000/lb is doing it illegally, because it doesn't COST $2000 to grow a plant. Sorry man, just how it is I'm afraid, and it's only going to get worse, soon... we ain't even gonna be allowed to grow our own (2014) unless you havn't been following up on the news and drug reform laws that are going to be phased in at that point.

On a similar note, I know of DG's who charge only $3/g which works out to $1344/lb, and even some that do it for free.
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What is the source of your information about the changes supposedly taking place in 2014? I know nothing of this.
 
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ShadesOfBlue

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Pharoah said:
Ummm... Bill C-10?? Every news company in canada?? Google is your friend.
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I'm somewhat familiar with bill c-10 and it has nothing to do with changing medical marijuana program in 2014, as far as I know.

Your attitude is hilarious - even more so considering that you just had your ass handed to you a few posts ago in this very thread. How can you expect anyone to take you seriously now?
 
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ShadesOfBlue

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Does anyone have any information on what will be required to become a commercial grower in Canada once the changes take place. There is a list of things provided on the link that Pharoah put up above, but all of those conditions seem relatively easy to meet to me. They are:


  • Dried Marihuana Production, Distribution and Disposition
    • indoor production in a non-residential area;
    • physical security standards;
    • product quality standards;
    • packaging and labelling standards; and
    • requirements for the disposal of excess plant material, excess dried marihuana and/or expired dried marihuana.
  • Personnel
    • designation of an individual responsible for managing the production and distribution of dried marihuana; and
    • specific qualifications for all personnel involved in production and distribution.
  • Record-keeping and Reporting
    • requirements to keep records relating to all on-site activities for a set period of time, and the ability to provide set records to Health Canada on request; and
    • requirements for reporting on activities associated with the cultivation of marihuana and the distribution of dried marihuana.
  • Compliance and Enforcement
    • pre-qualification audits and pre-licence inspections; and
    • inspections and/or audits on an ongoing basis.


Hell, I'm planning on inviting the fire department in to inspect my op before I even start - I want to make sure everything is safe and above board. I don't see any reason why I wouldn't be able to transition into being a commercial grower licensed by Health Canada. I'm interested to know what anybody else has learned regarding this.

I don't see anything about Health Canada intending to charge people insane amounts of money for the license to produce commercially.
 
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