Cannabis Heavy Syrup

Continued from previous post:

Summary: The goal is to create a nanoemulsion with a pH of 6-7 using blending/heating/homogenization. The recipe accomplishes part of this goal by using lemon juice or citric acid to lower the pH but some form of blending and extended heating is required to increase the extract efficiency.

This link contains the final piece to the project:

The title says it all:

Preparation of sucrose fatty acid esters as food emulsifiers and evaluation of their surface active and emulsification properties.

http://grasasyaceites.revistas.csic.es/index.php/grasasyaceites/article/download/668/679

The abstract:

Unfortunately their method is not something available in the kitchen and would most likely result in highly degraded THC -> CBN.

They melted the sugar and oil together at 212f then increased the temp to 265f and cooked it for 16hrs. Afterwards they mixed this into a solvent of ketone and lactic acid, then purge the solvent to obtain food grade, powder of sucrose ester.

My next step for this recipe is adding in some blending and time. I will continue to follow the recipe as written but add in some stirring at the end and lengthen the steeping time before straining.

Great thread, thanks

SwankyDank said:

The recipe accomplishes part of this goal by using lemon juice or citric acid to lower the pH but some form of blending and extended heating is required to increase the extract efficiency.

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It has been a long time since that last post. In the meantime I have given time to further experiments. The most successful involved keeping the syrup and trim heated on a portable induction plate for 3 hours but way too stinky for the average household or apartment.

During this time I have had a number of patients test the syrup and they all report that it works, so much so that after using it on a free trial basis they are willing to pay for the syrup as their main source of medicine. I am personally satisfied with the real world feedback as to the effectiveness of this method.

But to the real purpose of this new post: I think I have solved the issue of blending and extended heating and it is a very simple and elegant solution.

The use of the thermos allows for a simple yet powerful way to blend and maintain temps. After 8 hours the temps were still close to 190, meaning that thc decarbs the whole time, in the range of 190-200F.

I love this because the loss of volatiles is kept to a minimum as they are captured inside the sealed container. As an added bonus this is super clean and I can shake the shit right out of the weed.

My most potent batch to date used 70g of trim and popcorn buds with a final liquid yield of 1 quart. This batch soaked for 8 hours. Not tested in a lab but with 40 batches previous experience I can safely state that dose size has been almost halved. Meaning efficiency has almost doubled.

Tonight I have a smaller batch, 30g into a pint of mix. This will sit overnight, with a target of 12 hours soaking.

Peace everyone, hope you give this a try sometime. This syrup is so tasty and kind. It is a liquid that tastes as the flowers smell. The flavors are preserved and come through very clearly.

i think ill give this a whirl in few weeks...

P.S.: If possible, trim into a bowl that is heat resistant. (I use a stainless mixing bowl.) Before pouring the syrup into the thermos, use a small amount of it to rinse out the kief from the bowl.

Also, depending on what you usually do with scissor hash, dip the tips into the boiling syrup. The hash will melt right into the solution.

P.P.S.: Don't forget to lick out the bowl. I scavenged the last bits of syrupy residue of a Kerala Sativa and am slowly climbing the edibles ladder to a nice heady. Got the gleam in my eye and feeling the giggles coming on soon.

SwankyDank said:

Place dried, whole, but not decarbed plant material in a suitably sized stainless-steel vacuum canister (thermos). Prepare the syrup and bring to the boil, then pour into the thermos. Temperature stabilizes at about 200F. Seal the thermos and shake vigorously. Unseal it to avoid a blown off top, slightly re-seal, and allow this to sit for a long time. Intermittent shaking will be a huge benefit to the process.

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So you are saying I could use the same recipe from the first page? Thermos the coffee cups ? If I add a tablespoon of everclear does that evaporate during the cooking process? is the crockpot safe for this whole process?
I have a few more questions but can you re-post the new recipe with clear instructions. Thanks

bigchat said:

So you are saying I could use the same recipe from the first page?

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Sorry for the confusion. Different recipe for the glycerin. You can still use the sugar recipe but the extract isn't as potent.

Thermos the coffee cups ?

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Not cups. Thermos (vacuum container) are the bigger insulated containers that people use to bring coffee or soup to an outdoor work-site. They keep things warm for at least a day or longer if left closed.

If I add a tablespoon of everclear does that evaporate during the cooking process?

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I don't have any experience using everclear in this recipe and I don't think it would evaporate as nothing is cooked.

is the crockpot safe for this whole process?

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Could be but I haven't tried it.

can you re-post the new recipe with clear instructions. Thanks

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The final recipe I've been using:

28g high quality trim and popcorn buds
21g food grade vegetable glycerin
7oz filtered water
2.5 TBSP Citric Acid
optional: Add flavoring: I've used fresh squeezed lemon juice, orange juice, and also bottled maple flavoring.

Place the trim in the thermos. Combine the glycerin and water in a quart measuring cup and combine well, until there is no noticeable difference in the two ingredients. Transfer this mixture to a pot and add the citric acid. Heat until just boiling, stirring occasionally until the citric acid is dissolved. The glycerin may give off some vapor, this is normal. Pour the mix into the thermos and add optional flavoring.

Note: If you don't have a full ounce of trim here are the conversion ratios.
glycerin= grams of trim * .75
water= grams of trim * .25
citric acid=(grams of trim/32)*3

example with 12 grams of trim:
glycerin= 12*75=9oz
water=12*.25=3oz
citric acid=(12/32)*3=.375*3=1.13

SwankyDank said:

Sorry for the confusion. Different recipe for the glycerin. You can still use the sugar recipe but the extract isn't as potent.

Not cups. Thermos (vacuum container) are the bigger insulated containers that people use to bring coffee or soup to an outdoor work-site. They keep things warm for at least a day or longer if left closed.

I don't have any experience using everclear in this recipe and I don't think it would evaporate as nothing is cooked.

Could be but I haven't tried it.



The final recipe I've been using:

28g high quality trim and popcorn buds
21g food grade vegetable glycerin
7oz filtered water
2.5 TBSP Citric Acid
optional: Add flavoring: I've used fresh squeezed lemon juice, orange juice, and also bottled maple flavoring.

Place the trim in the thermos. Combine the glycerin and water in a quart measuring cup and combine well, until there is no noticeable difference in the two ingredients. Transfer this mixture to a pot and add the citric acid. Heat until just boiling, stirring occasionally until the citric acid is dissolved. The glycerin may give off some vapor, this is normal. Pour the mix into the thermos and add optional flavoring.

Note: If you don't have a full ounce of trim here are the conversion ratios.
glycerin= grams of trim * .75
water= grams of trim * .25
citric acid=(grams of trim/32)*3

example with 12 grams of trim:
glycerin= 12*75=9oz
water=12*.25=3oz
citric acid=(12/32)*3=.375*3=1.13

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AHHH Thermos! This is a great idea. I do currently have a pound of trim to work with so Ill start low and slow. I was looking to use some of the trim to create vape juice for the vape pens ,but Ill post a new thread about that.
Ill post my results from this recipe soon.
Thank you.

SwankyDank said:

21g food grade vegetable glycerin

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21 grams or 21 oz of food grade glycerin? and it says not for internal consumption on the side of my 1 gallon food grade vegetable glycerin. Link: http://a.co/dpAa57Y
Is this glycerin only for Vapor ?

When I pour up a ounce or even a ounce and a half , im not feeling any results at all... I followed the directions and I used 12 grams of fire bud.
What do you think the issue could be? Maybe It didn't sit long enough in the thermos..(From 10pm-8am)
The taste is amazingly good, the smell is loud when I open the Jar, the color and consistency is right on it just does not have any effect at all..
Glycerin Used= http://a.co/dpAa57Y

bigchat said:

When I pour up a ounce or even a ounce and a half , im not feeling any results at all... I followed the directions and I used 12 grams of fire bud.
What do you think the issue could be? Maybe It didn't sit long enough in the thermos..(From 10pm-8am)
The taste is amazingly good, the smell is loud when I open the Jar, the color and consistency is right on it just does not have any effect at all..
Glycerin Used= http://a.co/dpAa57Y

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Sorry I didn't include how long to steep the mixture.

I steep it for at least 24hours, shaking it occasionally.

SwankyDank said:

Sorry I didn't include how long to steep the mixture.

I steep it for at least 24hours, shaking it occasionally.

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ok will do!
I closed the lid when the temperature dropped to 250 inside the thermos.
Now ill let it sit. Ill post the 2ncd attempt results soon.

bigchat said:

ok will do!
I closed the lid when the temperature dropped to 250 inside the thermos.
Now ill let it sit. Ill post the 2ncd attempt results soon.

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Make sure to loosen the lid slightly after shaking. All that shaking and steam makes the pressure build up and blow the top off, spraying trim and weed juice all over the place.