Canadians Who Buy Legal Recreational Marijuana Could Be Flagged And Banned From The U.S.

gb123

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Upcoming changes to Canada's marijuana laws will soon allow Canadians across the country to legally purchase marijuana for recreational purposes. But experts warn that this could affect one's ease of travel across international borders, particularly when journeying south to the U.S.

Those who buy legal recreational marijuana at licensed stores or online using credit cards will start to accumulate marijuana transaction histories, as organizations begin to collect consumer data. If such information reaches U.S. border officials, it could have lasting consequences for those individuals, including being banned from the U.S. for life.

According to lawyers, U.S. border officers have the authority to ban individuals they determine as "drug abusers," or those who lie about their marijuana use. A Canadian's marijuana transaction data could therefore be used against the individual at the border, as non-U.S. persons are only protected under Canada's Charter and not under America's Fourth Amendment.

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In terms of data privacy,Canada's five major banks warn that an individual's financial information can be stored outside of the Canada and aresubject to the laws of the country it's stored in. U.S. authorities can obtain Canadian credit card data under the PATRIOT Act, which was passed as an anti-terrorism law after September 11.

“Any information that goes outside of Canadais up for grabs by local law enforcement,” says former assistant federal privacy commissioner. Heather Black toGlobal News. “It’s part of the globalization of data. It goes all over the place.”

Lawyers suggest Canadian travellers caught in such situation should refuse answering the question so that they will only get turned away on that one occasion, rather than get banned for life on the spot. Those who do get banned could always apply for a waiver that would allow them to cross the border, however it is an extremely burdensome and expensive process.

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Marijuana laws are dictated on a provincial leveland will differ between the regions. Quebec, Nova Scotia and P.E.I. will have their own online ordering systems and plan to keep all of the data in Canada. Ontario, Alberta, Newfoundland and New Brunswick will contract out online ordering, but require contractors to store the data only in Canada.

Where it gets tricky is Manitoba and Saskatchewan — the two provinces will allow licensed private-sector companies to facilitate online sales, which means storage of consumer data is not limited to just Canada.
 

thumper60

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Upcoming changes to Canada's marijuana laws will soon allow Canadians across the country to legally purchase marijuana for recreational purposes. But experts warn that this could affect one's ease of travel across international borders, particularly when journeying south to the U.S.

Those who buy legal recreational marijuana at licensed stores or online using credit cards will start to accumulate marijuana transaction histories, as organizations begin to collect consumer data. If such information reaches U.S. border officials, it could have lasting consequences for those individuals, including being banned from the U.S. for life.

According to lawyers, U.S. border officers have the authority to ban individuals they determine as "drug abusers," or those who lie about their marijuana use. A Canadian's marijuana transaction data could therefore be used against the individual at the border, as non-U.S. persons are only protected under Canada's Charter and not under America's Fourth Amendment.

@marijuana.plantembedded via


In terms of data privacy,Canada's five major banks warn that an individual's financial information can be stored outside of the Canada and aresubject to the laws of the country it's stored in. U.S. authorities can obtain Canadian credit card data under the PATRIOT Act, which was passed as an anti-terrorism law after September 11.

“Any information that goes outside of Canadais up for grabs by local law enforcement,” says former assistant federal privacy commissioner. Heather Black toGlobal News. “It’s part of the globalization of data. It goes all over the place.”

Lawyers suggest Canadian travellers caught in such situation should refuse answering the question so that they will only get turned away on that one occasion, rather than get banned for life on the spot. Those who do get banned could always apply for a waiver that would allow them to cross the border, however it is an extremely burdensome and expensive process.

@customsborderembedded via

Marijuana laws are dictated on a provincial leveland will differ between the regions. Quebec, Nova Scotia and P.E.I. will have their own online ordering systems and plan to keep all of the data in Canada. Ontario, Alberta, Newfoundland and New Brunswick will contract out online ordering, but require contractors to store the data only in Canada.

Where it gets tricky is Manitoba and Saskatchewan — the two provinces will allow licensed private-sector companies to facilitate online sales, which means storage of consumer data is not limited to just Canada.
seems fair to me, u folks have banned any one with oui in usa for ever:blsmoke: an that was decades ago
 

GroErr

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If it weren't for contracts that I have there I'd welcome them banning me for life. Crossing that border and listening to those homeland security jerk off's infuriates me every time. Not that Canadian border guards are much better but I've yet to get one even close to the cop-wannabe-but-couldn't-get-hired imbeciles on the southern side of the border.

The lawyer's response if you're not a good liar is good, at least that way you're only turned away once, although I'd bet you'll be flagged so maybe it's not such good advice.

On the subject at hand though, data stored anywhere, by anyone, particularly small mom & pop shops is subject to hacks. It's not a matter of whether it will some day get into the wrong hands, it's a matter of when and how bad spread it will be. Caveat emptor, buyer beware, use cash, don't get a loyalty card, with loyalty cards you can be easily identified and associated with that specific transaction.
 

GroErr

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I might be a bit jaded but i've never trusted govt and that opinion grew when i became self-employed.
Sure us good to hear from other members of the choir !

I still think a good armed revolt is the way to go. :bigjoint:
Self employed, so you've met the CRA dicks for sure by now, their my biggest pain in the ass, every year it's something. As long as I get away with other shit I'll give them a bone to get out of my hair, just pick the cheap bones ;)
 

Novabudd

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Self employed, so you've met the CRA dicks for sure by now, their my biggest pain in the ass, every year it's something. As long as I get away with other shit I'll give them a bone to get out of my hair, just pick the cheap bones ;)
Yea i figure i've put at least a couple their kids thru university. One year i gave the bastids almost 70G. This is how you support small business ?:shock:
 

Flash63

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anyone close able to claim Canadian Disability tax?
Good luck with that!the criteria has changed and made very difficult to be eligible under the new system.I was eligible for 5 yrs,then reapplied (twice) and was denied.
 

Novabudd

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Good luck with that!the criteria has changed and made very difficult to be eligible under the new system.I was eligible for 5 yrs,then reapplied (twice) and was denied.
I was going to apply because i have disc problems in my neck that Drs cant fix. My doc said be a waste of time --- unless i have an arm or leg cut off i wouldnt have a hope in hell.
 

gb123

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Good luck with that!the criteria has changed and made very difficult to be eligible under the new system.I was eligible for 5 yrs,then reapplied (twice) and was denied.
x wife is disabled with JRA since the age of 10, visibly disabled...but because she chooses to walk rather than take a seat for the rest of her life.
.that Makes her ineligible.. its a fine line indeed. Some were abusing the fuck out of it and why its now fucking people who actually need it.
 
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