Canadian Legalization Legislation

BobCajun

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From https://ca.news.yahoo.com/marijuana-legalization-plan-comes-thursday-161710931.html we find that Canada intends to make penalties more draconian than they currently are. At least that's what they said in their election pledge. We'll know on Thursday.

Also, it's just a bill that they'll be tabling Thursday, and I assume bills can be defeated, even with a majority Govt. If not, Canada is a dictatorship.

Tougher penalties

There is another element to the Liberal election pledge that hasn't gotten nearly as much attention: stiffer penalties for certain pot-related offences.

In its 2015 platform, the party pledged to "create new, stronger laws to punish more severely those who provide it to minors, those who operate a motor vehicle while under its influence, and those who sell it outside of the new regulatory framework."

Drugged driving presents a particular challenge. The cannabis task force noted that roadside tests to determine whether a driver is impaired because of pot use are still in development. Public Safety Canada has been working with police in several cities to run pilot projects on different roadside detection tests.
 

BobCajun

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From page.

"New penalties would range from a simple police citation to 14 years behind bars."

Only twice as long, how merciful of them.

"The new law would allow adults 18 and over to possess up to 30 grams of dried cannabis or its equivalent in public, share up to 30 grams of dried marijuana with other adults and buy cannabis or cannabis oil from a provincially regulated retailer."

Great, so you can "share" less than 30 grams all day. And people can "share" money with you. Completely unrelated of course. Good thing 28 is less than 30. Worked out perfect.
 

BobCajun

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The limit is 4 plants, 100 cm height, no diameter or weight restriction. Amateur hour. You could actually grow 2 more but you'd get a ticket for $200. Same with 30-50 g of weed. They prohibited using illicit seeds or plant material to grow with, so I guess you have to buy their shitty strain seeds or something. Anyway, full text here.
 

Lightgreen2k

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The limit is 4 plants, 100 cm height, no diameter or weight restriction. Amateur hour. You could actually grow 2 more but you'd get a ticket for $200. Same with 30-50 g of weed. They prohibited using illicit seeds or plant material to grow with, so I guess you have to buy their shitty strain seeds or something. Anyway, full text here.
they want a monopoly. what the fuck are they going to test the weed to see where it came from.

its all good the med program has to be seperate.
 

torontoke

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they want a monopoly. what the fuck are they going to test the weed to see where it came from.

its all good the med program has to be seperate.
Supposedly yes
They expect those that grow to keep sample buds for inspectors lol
4 plants in every other home and they are gonna monitor where you get your genetics.
Gonna need to hire a few people or better yet genetic experts.
Must be starting a school at tweed

Our government can be embarrassing with their ignorance
 

BobCajun

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It looks like they may intend to crack down on Canadian seed sellers. Weird that they put that in there.Maybe you can only grow Government issued strains, like Ditchweed #1. Then when those who supported Bill-C realize the awful truth, that all they can legally grow is 1% THC strains. Then they will weep bitterly and hang themselves from trees, and not even weed trees, regular ones.
 
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greg nr

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This is, in essence, socialized cannibis. Look at how they plan to sell; through either state owned chain stores or licensed pharmacies/liquor outlets.

So you have to buy your seeds or clones from them or their licensed lackies. You can only buy retail from them or their licensed lackies. You can only get it as a prescription from them/their licensed lackies.

Sounds like what southern states did after prohibition ended. You could only buy from state stores, you couldn't brew your own, and beer was a max of 3.2 % (and it all tasted like crap). That only lasted about 50 years. But those 50 years sucked.

A lot of canadians will be going to jail for a good part of their lives I suspect. When the oligarch's want competition wiped out, you don't last long.

 

BobCajun

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Let's face it, the seed thing is ridiculous. Since seeds weigh less than 30 g they should be completely legal to possess or "share". How then could there be such a thing as "illicit seeds"? Why would they actually put that part in there in writing, before even the plant count part? The only thing I can imagine is that they'll say that seeds sold without a production or retailing license will be considered illicit. That would be every popular strain currently known.

Every Canadian seed seller will be considered illegal if they don't have a seller's license, and even licensed sellers aren't allow to use packaging with anything on them or promote them other than by direct mail to individual people who they know are 18 or over. Couldn't use a website like they do now. Stock up before July 2018. After that they'll chuck your ass in prison for 14 years. Because of course a mere 7 years won't deter anybody.
 
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BobCajun

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I just checked the list of licensed producers to see which ones sell seeds. Only 2 do, CanniTrust and Tweed. Tweed's site is down for now and no sign of any seeds on the CanniTrust site. Shit out of luck for scoring some non-illicit hemp seeds then I guess. Need some of that sweet Fedora 17.
 

ANC

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Wonder if you'd be allowed to use any seed from the ditchweed#1, or will they go full Monsanto on your arse.
 

BobCajun

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Wonder if you'd be allowed to use any seed from the ditchweed#1, or will they go full Monsanto on your arse.
I guess it'll still be normal strains. Several LPs sell clones. One had name brands like Master Kush. It'll mainly effect seed sellers. But really things will likely stay as they are, everyone simply ignoring the laws. Only difference is that if you get caught with a small amount you'll skate. That's always a nice bonus,
 

freddyc

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I just checked the list of licensed producers to see which ones sell seeds. Only 2 do, CanniTrust and Tweed. Tweed's site is down for now and no sign of any seeds on the CanniTrust site. Shit out of luck for scoring some non-illicit hemp seeds then I guess. Need some of that sweet Fedora 17.
And Canna Farms @ $175.00 for a pair of clones....plus tax ...yikes. I see they gracefully cover shipping.....As for illicit seeds or materials...lol...the strains they (LPs) sell all came from illicit sources. Says so on some sites, for souvenirs only....I recall watching the seed inventories at Hemp Depot falling and then the strains popping up for sale from different LPs...Like to see how they fare with that one in court. :wall:
 

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BobCajun

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And Canna Farms @ $175.00 for a pair of clones....plus tax ...yikes. I see they gracefully cover shipping.....As for illicit seeds or materials...lol...the strains they (LPs) sell all came from illicit sources. Like to see how they fare with that one in court.
I noticed that myself. They have no problem with the LPs growing illicitly obtained seeds right now but later they will. It's pretty ludicrous.

Also weird how one of the largest shareholders in Canopy is US investment company BlackRock. Trudeau has been enticing foreign investment in Canada, and apparently a significant part of it is in the dope industry.
 
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