Can you get high by touching weed??? I feel it!!! :-/

cowell · Jan 7, 2012

Placebos have PUT CANCER into remission. That's quite a statement.
Is it possible that you get stoned - because you think you should be? 1/3 of the population have some form of reaction to a placebo. So in a room with 100 people trimming weed - let's say 30 of them are going to swear on a bible they are stoned. They are going to feel and and believe it. I'm not challenging that people think they are. But if someone gave you sugar pills and told you it was some acid - 30% of the people who take it are going to report some kind of effect. It's not that they are crazy.. there is alot to be said for the power of someone's mind and what they believe should happen to them when they do something.
If that's what you believe, man I really don't want to harsh anyone's buzz tonight - so honestly, I'll just respectfully disagree that anyone can get high from contacting non carbonized THC. That's all I originally said, and I am going to stand by that. You can disagree, or agree, I don't care. I'm only out to kill some time in between mixing up batches of nutes tonight.. I'm smoking hash tonight, I'm feeling good.. Hope you all feel good too... I know I am not going to convince anyone of something they believe is true ( same with religion and politics) because it happened to them.

durpadurp · Jan 8, 2012

cowell said:
Placebos have PUT CANCER into remission. That's quite a statement.
Is it possible that you get stoned - because you think you should be? 1/3 of the population have some form of reaction to a placebo. So in a room with 100 people trimming weed - let's say 30 of them are going to swear on a bible they are stoned. They are going to feel and and believe it. I'm not challenging that people think they are. But if someone gave you sugar pills and told you it was some acid - 30% of the people who take it are going to report some kind of effect. It's not that they are crazy.. there is alot to be said for the power of someone's mind and what they believe should happen to them when they do something.
If that's what you believe, man I really don't want to harsh anyone's buzz tonight - so honestly, I'll just respectfully disagree that anyone can get high from contacting non carbonized THC. That's all I originally said, and I am going to stand by that. You can disagree, or agree, I don't care. I'm only out to kill some time in between mixing up batches of nutes tonight.. I'm smoking hash tonight, I'm feeling good.. Hope you all feel good too... I know I am not going to convince anyone of something they believe is true ( same with religion and politics) because it happened to them.

As a person who is very academic and does not refute science or logic I understand where you are coming from cowell. One thing you are forgetting though that as a person who tries to understand what is going on around me, I have to explain what is happening not explain why what is happening shouldn't be true. I've heard from enough people and there are obviously people on here that agree, that if you surround yourself with bud and touch it all day you get high. I think there were also rituals back in the day where naked virgin females would run through the plants and would get covered in resin/trichs and then something happened where they all got high. Well that wasn't the best example but you know what I mean, it has been observed in the world that interacting with pot plants for a while gets you high.

cowell · Jan 8, 2012

durpadurp said:
As a person who is very academic and does not refute science or logic I understand where you are coming from cowell. One thing you are forgetting though that as a person who tries to understand what is going on around me, I have to explain what is happening not explain why what is happening shouldn't be true. I've heard from enough people and there are obviously people on here that agree, that if you surround yourself with bud and touch it all day you get high. I think there were also rituals back in the day where naked virgin females would run through the plants and would get covered in resin/trichs and then something happened where they all got high. Well that wasn't the best example but you know what I mean, it has been observed in the world that interacting with pot plants for a while gets you high.

Look bro.. you can believe it if it makes you happy. 30% is alot of people. No doubt you've heard it. You've experienced it. Why do you need to try and defend the fact that you are under the placebo effect to say you are high by handling weed while trimming it? If there's no reason why it should happen, the "fact" it does happen would mean that there is another reason for it happening... make any sence where I'm coming from?
Ancient rituals don't mean anything. They used to bleed people to balance the fluids in your body when you were sick from anything too. Does it mean that worked? I'm sure at least 30% of the people they bled got better..or they wouldn't have done it right? (wonder how George Washington would feel about it if could chime in?) Save hocus pocus and mysteries of the universe stuff for toke and talk. It has been observed? by whom? where is this record of people getting high while working around marijuana?
You can post links to studies if you want to try and teach me something.. but come on.. you have to explain what is happening to you , but don't care why? That's kind of part of being a person who understands anything. To know you're hair is moving is great.. to understand that it's windy and not magic makes more sence to me.

Gastanker · Jan 8, 2012

cowell said:
Nothing do with how absorption works either. I'm sure if raw weed got you fucked some stupid kids out there would start sticking bud up their ass and get whacked, then all their friends would be doing it. It doens't happen that way.

As for the "test" you linked..THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high. Without THC you don't get high.

CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.

Weren't we talking THC before? ..." thought THC decarbed during flower maturation and the dry/cure as well... "... yup.. we were. It's up there. Why don't we talk about something else to try and twist my original comment? Forget it.. I'll move on. You're right. You can get high by rubbing pot on your skin. Sure. Have a great evening.

I thought we were talking about getting high from touching pot... You already admitted that THC decarbs during the cure and we all know thc can be absorbed through human tissues so of course it gets you stoned if you handle enough of it. I stated that in addition to there being active THC there are also additional active cannabinoids that can make you feel different than normal. The fact that there are high levels of a similar cannabinoid in the growth process would point to there being active THC in the growth cycle as well. Connect the dots...

Regardless - we both came to the same conclusion - yes it can get you high. I'm not sure why you refuted this before.

cowell said:
In other words, you cannot get high from eating raw weed, or rubbing it on your skin... it's all in your mind.. a placebo effect.

And sticking enough pot i your ass would get you high. Just like sticking beer in your ass... Actually would get you higher than eating it (as long as it was thoroughly ground).

durpadurp · Jan 8, 2012

I got a question for why you guys are calling this the placebo effect. They are not around some random plants that look like pot and smell like pot and got high, they were around pot that has thc and all the other goodies that trigger your dopamine levels. So by being around pot that, which has always given you this high, it is not a placebo effect in anyway especially when talking with experienced smokers. I mean they could be beginner smokers that decided to take up trimming pot plants for 12 hours, you never know.

cowell · Jan 8, 2012

Gastanker said:
I thought we were talking about getting high from touching pot... You already admitted that THC decarbs during the cure and we all know thc can be absorbed through human tissues so of course it gets you stoned by handling it. I stating that in addition to there being active THC there are also additional active cannabinoids that can make you feel different than normal.

And I said that you can't get high off weed that's not decarbed.

During cure it decarbs..TO A DEGREE yes I agree.. not while you are trimming though buddy. You "stated"....lol.. so?
I said you can't get high off of weed that's not decarbed. Where am I wrong? You are telling me they found CBD in heritage MJ.. that's just a web page, not a study with tests and results to look at. I'm saying that if you could get high from osmosis why aren't kids sticking nugs in their armpit instead of blazing, worried about getting caught from the stink? If you could get stoned feeling bud - people would do it instead of smoking it from a health stand point as well- I would assume.
I still say you can believe whatever makes you happy man. I however don't care how you try and twist something to make your theory fit.. THC that is not decarbed will not get you high. While you are trimming I don't believe it is. That's what I said. I don't see anything that goes against what I understand to be right from what I have learned. So you can stop already - I'm not trying to prove you wrong. I'm saying you believe it - you think you are right.. I can't convince you otherwise.. I'm not trying.

Tmac4302 · Jan 8, 2012

cowell said:
Marijuana produces THCA, an acid with the carboxylic group (COOH) attached. In its acid form, THC is not very active. It is only when the carboxyl group is removed that THC becomes psychoactive. When marijuana is smoked, the THC behind the hot spot is vaporized as the hot air from the burn is drawn through the joint or pipe bowl to the unburned material. The liquid THC and other cannabinoids have a boiling point of between 180-200° C (355-392° F). Before they turn gaseous, at around 106° C (220° F), the carboxyl group is released from the molecule as carbon dioxide and water vapor.

In other words, you cannot get high from eating raw weed, or rubbing it on your skin... it's all in your mind.. a placebo effect.

THANK YOU SOMEONE ACTUALLY GIVES THE FACTS AND STOPS SPEWING BULL SHIT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE.

Psew. Now my caps lock can take a break. But, for real people. No you won't get high from touching resin off of the plant. Even if your body does absorb it into your skin, THC still isn't active without the decarboxilization that is needed from a heat source greater than 363 degrees Fahrenheit. So unless your shin is boiling lava, you will not get high. Same goes for putting a bud under your tongue. Your enzymes in your saliva can't decarboxilate the THCA. That's why you have to make cannabutter, cannamilk, cannaoil, ect to eat it/topically apply it/or make a glycerin tincture. Hints why you can't just chow down on a cola and get baked. So stop wasting your weed and time and study what you are ingesting and growing.

Gastanker · Jan 8, 2012

I'm not trying to argue with you I'm just stating that you can get high from contact with bud - even raw bud; there is some decarbed thc in raw bud - not sure why you don't believe this as the same process that happens the few days post cut can easily happen pre cut as well - your scissors don't impart some magical missing chemical key. This is not to mention that non decarbed THC is still active - just less active.

Kids don't stick buds in their arm pits because it is not cost effective and not pleasant... There are more ideal and less ideal ways of getting a chemical in your body but that doesn't mean the most popular is the only way. That is a pretty terrible argument. Why don't most Americans give themselves coffee enemas every morning instead of drinking it? Its actually a more effective way to absorb the caffeine - oh but wait that wouldn't be as fun. Ever handle raw tobacco? That's an easy one for you to google. Oh wait... you think chemicals can't be absorbed through the skin...Silly crazy nicotine placebo patches - I hear if you use too many the placebo can actually kill you!

Hey heres one - put a bunch of tabs of acid on your arm and hit it with a spray bottle. Let me know what happens. (Don't actually do that)

btw - people do medicate by spreading it on them. They make a variety of medicated balms, hand lotions, topical tinctures...

cowell · Jan 8, 2012

Gastanker said:
I'm not trying to argue with you I'm just stating that you can get high from contact with bud - even raw bud; there is some decarbed thc in raw bud - not sure why you don't believe this.

I don't believe it - because that's not the way I learned how THC works. It needs to be decarbed at a higher temp than to be effective. How is this so hard for you to grasp.. you are talking opposite to what I have learned.. I have even gone so far to say - show me where you're getting your info so I can take the time to read and learn.. you aren't.

Kids don't stick buds in their arm pits because it is not cost effective and not pleasant... Why? kids will stick needles under their toenails to hide tracks, but not throw a nug in their shorts to get ripped all day? How do you figure it's not cost effective? You can touch weed that you are trimming to sell/ or smoke, and you're high right?..then you smoke it.. or someone does, and they get high too - right? so why can't I throw it in my sock, get high for the afternoon, then smoke it later and get high again? That sounds super cost effective (if it worked.. but it doesn't, that's why kinds don't do it)

There are more ideal and less ideal ways of getting a chemical in your body but that doesn't mean the most popular is the only way. You're an idiot to bring up an argument like that. Why don't most Americans give themselves coffee enemas every morning instead of drinking it? Its actually a more effective way to absorb the caffeine - oh but wait that wouldn't be as fun. Ever handle raw tobacco? That's an easy one for you to google. Oh wait... you think chemicals can't be absorbed through the skin...

I'm an idoit for my choice of examples? Go fuck yourself. I can compare how drug's are used by sticking it up your ass.. have you heard of it happening with pot? No, me either.. hence my choice for it as an example Genius. But you do hear about people abusing alcohol that way - haven't you? (nod Gomer - cause it's true right) If you could absorb thc into your skin and get high, as you are saying.. I am sure some people somewhere would find a way to abuse it.. but they don't.. because you don't get high. Do you want to explain to me how drug abuse applies to everyday mondane things like drinking coffee? I can walk into my office drinking a cup of coffee you moron, I can't spark a spliff and head down to the caf for a snack... but if I could throw it in my sock and having it against my leg all day got me blazed.. why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't anyone?

Hey heres one - put a bunch of tabs of acid on your arm and hit it with a spray bottle. Let me know what happens.

You are really trying aren't you.. What does acid and a spray bottle have to do with THC getting you high when you are touching it? I wish I had some of the shit you are on.. You're totally fucked up.

Gastanker · Jan 8, 2012

cowell said:
You are really trying aren't you.. What does acid and a spray bottle have to do with THC getting you high when you are touching it? I wish I had some of the shit you are on.. You're totally fucked up.

You said that chemicals can't be absorbed through osmosis... I'm the one out of it? How does THC enter your body when you smoke it?

I like this "You can touch weed that you are trimming to sell/ or smoke, and you're high right?..then you smoke it.. or someone does, and they get high too - right? so why can't I throw it in my sock, get high for the afternoon, then smoke it later and get high again? That sounds super cost effective (if it worked.. but it doesn't, that's why kinds don't do it)"

When did I say you can touch a tiny piece of bud and get high? Seriously?

Hours of exposure to large amounts of thrichomes or running through a field is a bit different than touching a gram of bud... I'm the crazy one, but you can't see this difference?

Have you ever trimmed dry bud? Ever? Ever heard of keif? If some falls off does it all fall off? Wow dude... rage less and read more.

From all of this I assume you never smoke pot and only eat edibles. Right? It is the most ideal healthy form with the most control on decarbed THC...

Smoke up, chill, go to bed (or take a nap), and then pic up some human anatomy, basic bio books, and a chem 101 book.

Tmac4302 · Jan 8, 2012

Gastanker said:
Did you say that chemicals can't be absorbed through the skin... I'm the one out of it?

I like this "You can touch weed that you are trimming to sell/ or smoke, and you're high right?..then you smoke it.. or someone does, and they get high too - right? so why can't I throw it in my sock, get high for the afternoon, then smoke it later and get high again? That sounds super cost effective (if it worked.. but it doesn't, that's why kinds don't do it)"

When did I say you can touch a tiny piece of bud and get high? Seriously?

Hours of exposure to large amounts of thrichomes is a bit different than touching a gram of bud... I'm the crazy one, but you can't see this difference?

Have you ever trimmed dry bud? Ever? Ever heard of keif? If some falls off does it all fall off? Wow dude... rage less and read more.

Dude, THC isn't absorbed into your skin without it being extracted into some type of lipid based substance. Ever heard of medicinal topical cream from cannabis? Do you know how it's made?! They take your herb, throw it into olive oil, COOK IT FOR 3 HOURS, the put it with essential oils and bee's wax. The important part is the decarboxilizing it by heat and extracting it into oil. THAT is the only way for THC to be absorbed into your skin for you to be HIGH. The only form of THC that is active is (delta-9) tetrathydrocannabinol (not directly found anywhere on a fresh or dried plant. NOT THC, but DELTA-9 THC that results from a decarboxilization of THCA. Jesus dude.. Do you research before you waste others time and continue with false information.

Gastanker · Jan 8, 2012

cowell said:
Why? kids will stick needles under their toenails to hide tracks, but not throw a nug in their shorts to get ripped all day? How do you figure it's not cost effective? You can touch weed that you are trimming to sell/ or smoke, and you're high right?..then you smoke it.. or someone does, and they get high too - right? so why can't I throw it in my sock, get high for the afternoon, then smoke it later and get high again? That sounds super cost effective (if it worked.. but it doesn't, that's why kinds don't do it)

"Hey man I don't want my mom to find out I'm smoking - lets go buy a couple ounces and take a bath in it." Yeah I can totally picture that.

Gastanker · Jan 8, 2012

Tmac4302 said:
Dude, THC isn't absorbed into your skin without it being extracted into some type of lipid based substance. Ever heard of medicinal topical cream from cannabis? Do you know how it's made?! They take your herb, throw it into olive oil, COOK IT FOR 3 HOURS, the put it with essential oils and bee's wax. The important part is the decarboxilizing it by heat and extracting it into oil. THAT is the only way for THC to be absorbed into your skin for you to be HIGH. The only form of THC that is active is (delta-9) tetrathydrocannabinol (not directly found anywhere on a fresh or dried plant. NOT THC, but DELTA-9 THC that results from a decarboxilization of THCA. Jesus dude.. Do you research before you waste others time and continue with false information.

Are you saying that THC can be absorbed into your skin? Most everyone that has studied THC states it is active as is yet MORE active post decarb. It would reason that exposure to a larger amount of material would make up for the difference in activity. Right? No one is saying rubbing one bud on your asscrack is going to make you high.

Have you ever been around/handled large amounts of dry thricomes? Might get some experience... I have worked in the medical community and am familiar with how to make topicals as well as the decarb process...

cowell · Jan 8, 2012

Gastanker said:
Did you say that chemicals can't be absorbed through the skin... I'm the one out of it?

I like this "You can touch weed that you are trimming to sell/ or smoke, and you're high right?..then you smoke it.. or someone does, and they get high too - right? so why can't I throw it in my sock, get high for the afternoon, then smoke it later and get high again? That sounds super cost effective (if it worked.. but it doesn't, that's why kinds don't do it)"

Good..I'm glad. But what's your answer? You like it? it's not facebook. Let me break it down so you can follow it - You are saying you get high trimming weed. right? - then someone else get's high. right?. If that is the case, why is it out of the question for someone to want to use MJ by rubbing it on their skin? Anyone- 1 person using it that way.... I'm saying people don't do it. I gues I use "out there" examples for you, most of my intelligent friends can pick up where I'm trying to go and piece a few things together for themselves, sorry, have to rememebr where I am... but if you want me to boil down the logic into baby mouthfuls, I can spoon feed it to you.

When did I say you can touch a tiny piece of bud and get high? Seriously?

You didn't say tiny piece of bud.. where did I say tiny piece of bud? Seriously? I am trying to imply a question for you to prove my point... If you say you get high trimming weed.. I don't care if it's a million lbs or 2.. You should still be getting high from it passing through your skin however that is correct? I used an example of how some people abuse alcohol anally.. and as you pointed out with your moring cafe o late routine - you are aware that it is one of the most direct, ways into your bloodstream. So I'm basically telling you - you can't get high from touching weed, or more cracked out jail birds would be waling around with weed up their ass to get high. Since it doens't happen that way, I'm saying you are feeling the effects of placebo. What is so difficult about wrapping your huge brain around that concept?

Hours of exposure to large amounts of thrichomes is a bit different than touching a gram of bud... I'm the crazy one, but you can't see this difference?

I can see the difference, I'm saying it doens't matter - it still doesn't change the fact that THC needs to be decarbed to have any effect on you. I'm saying that to you - straight up. You can't see that I'm saying something totally different.. that's why you ARE the crazy one... yes.. I agree with that too.

Have you ever trimmed dry bud? Ever? Ever heard of keif? If some falls off does it all fall off? Wow dude... rage less and read more.

Why don't you take a minute and look through my posts to wonder if I've ever trimmed weed.. ever.
Yes I have heard of keif..if some falls off does it fall off? -Yes. Or else it wouldn't have fallen off. Your a dumbass.
How do you take your keif? by the spoonful?
Who's raging.. go re-read my posts on this topic and let's see who started being an asshole first here dickhead. I disagreed with your take on it.. I don't think you are right. I was nice enough to ask you to teach me where - if I'm wrong.. and you haven't done shit but say the lamest crap I've heard in years.

Show me where I said chemicals can't be absorbed through the skin. I said THC won't do shit unless it's decarbed. You are saying it is decarbed when you trim it.. I say it's not to the point that it would get you high. What are you having trouble with sunshine? That's where I disagree. I said show me a link. You can't. You are just going to "tell" me.. I don't care what you have to say.. so far tonight you don't know what you're talking about.

Gastanker · Jan 8, 2012

cowell said:
I'm saying that if you could get high from osmosis why aren't kids sticking nugs in their armpit instead of blazing

When you smoke pot how does the THC get to your brain?

I never disagreed with the decarb process but to say that there is NO active material on bud is absolutely silly. To say that the active material isn't absorbed into the body through osmosis is just as wrong.

To say that no one can notice the chemical effect of cannabinoids absorbed through the skin is wrong - even if you cannot.

And here i'll make it fancy colors for you. G'night.

cowell · Jan 8, 2012

Gastanker said:
When you smoke pot how does the THC get to your brain?

Bloodstream.

I never disagreed with the decarb process but to say that there is NO active material on bud is absolutely silly. To say that the active material isn't absorbed into the body through osmosis is just as wrong.

I said the amount of active material was small.. first post I made.. I never said there was "NO" anything.. I also said the amount of THC present at harvest isn't in an amount high enough that processing lbs of it would make you high.. I've trimmed 8 hours a day for a week straight.. not high unless I smoked something.

To say that no one can notice the chemical effect of thc absorbed through the skin is wrong - even if you cannot.

You are undergeneralizing what I was saying to fit your arguement again.. you are missing the only thing I am saying.. THC is only effective after it decarbs. A cure will decarb it to a small percent. I don't know how much one would have to ingest raw cured weed to get high... my thoughts are that it would be more than you could eat in one sitting unless you were kobioshi. I'm saying that weed needs to be heated to be decarbed enough that you would be high from any form of ingesting, slathering it on your skin, rolling around on it, padding your underpanties with it.. however you spend your day.

I never said people couldn't notice chemical effects of thc absorbed through the skin.. I said if they did while handling raw weed - it is placebo effect. Which as I stated - will cure disease. So it totally makes sence that some people think they are getting high, for the exact reasons you're arguing about it now. You believe you are.. and feel you are... but it doens't work that way.. Whatever - You have a good night.

Tmac4302 · Jan 8, 2012

Gastanker said:
Are you saying that THC can be absorbed into your skin? Most everyone that has studied THC states it is active as is yet MORE active post decarb. It would reason that exposure to a larger amount of material would make up for the difference in activity. Right? No one is saying rubbing one bud on your asscrack is going to make you high.

Have you ever been around/handled large amounts of dry thricomes? Might get some experience... I have worked in the medical community and am familiar with how to make topicals as well as the decarb process...

I'm saying through the right process, yes, D9 or D8 THC/THCV/CBD/CBN/ect. can be absorbed through your skin. However, having keif or tric's fall onto your skin or getting rubbed in, will not. Sorry, but, as a certified biochemist, I can't believe that it can get you high without complete activation. If anything the absorption rate into your skin from non decarboxylated THC, is minuscule at best certainly not enough to get you "high". It's like taking a chunk of peanut butter, rubbing it on your skin, and saying you got your daily recommended value of protein for the day. It doesn't work like that no matter how much we would like it to.

But to answer your question, yes I have been around and handled pounds of trimming, pounds of herb, and have sat through endless hours at a trimming table handling the medicine. Recently, I just made over an ounce of dry ice keif. Tell me, how can I be shaking out over an ounce of keif of OG kush, mind you it got EVERYWHERE including on myself, and not get baked off my ass from it? BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE ACTIVATED FORM TO BE READILY ABSORBED THROUGH MY SKIN...

Kybudz · Jan 8, 2012

Wow guys lights on my ladies. Going go flush this joint in my mouth. And go wallow around my plants. The way a old dog get in the sun and roll around. Oh yeah going get high. As shit. Lmao.

Gastanker · Jan 8, 2012

Did you ever look into bhang? (the drink not just one of the indian words for pot) No? It's a cannabis lassi that has been used for thousands of years - guess what no decarb. Are millions of Indians just experiencing the placebo effect? What is going on there?

Ever had an alcohol tincture? I guess all those people that get high off those oral alcohol tinctures are nuts as well (many many if not most I have seen prepared for the medical community were never decarbed)... Maybe its just the dropper full of alcohol.

[video=youtube;yEhXjnoGriI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEhXjnoGriI[/video]

We going to ignore real evidence over your poor interpretation of science? Which you seem to continually be changing your mind on... especially for a biochemist :roll:

I like the "certified" part though...

Things we agree on:
Marijuana has active cannabinoids before it goes through a "decarb procedure".
Cannabinoids can be absorbed through human tissues including the skin, synusus, eyes, mouth, stomach lining, gut, lung tissue...
People can feel cannabinoids when they have been absorbed in a large enough quantity.
Different people have drastically different tollerances to cannabinoids and feel their effect in different ways - for some this is a minute amount and other it's a fairly high amount.
When you trim for long periods of time your tissues including skin, eyes, sinus, throat, lungs... can come into contact with cannabinoids.

Pretty sure this is all stuff you have agree to. Now I'm confused as to how you can possible say those are true and yet come to your conclusion.

Just make a truth table...If all of those are true, then when a person with a lower tolerance comes into contact with enough cannabinoids, of which some are active, then they can absorb some, and after absorbing enough they could be able to feel it. This is really basic logic here - which I assume doesn't matter as you are more into slinging insults that discussing the issue, but there it is for you broken down all nice and simple so that even an a college freshman could understand.

Tmac4302 said:
Tell me, how can I be shaking out over an ounce of keif of OG kush, mind you it got EVERYWHERE including on myself, and not get baked off my ass from it? BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE ACTIVATED FORM TO BE READILY ABSORBED THROUGH MY SKIN...

How long was it in contact with you? Hours? Did you breathe any in? Did it get in your eyes? I've never been high from making dry ice keif... I have been high from trimming all day. So you made dry ice keif several times and that didn't personally get you high so it definitely cannot happen... One time I ate a budderbrothers brownie and nothing happened - I guess no one can get high of budderbrother backed goods - no that would be a pretty silly conclusion to jump to. Were you also smoking pot while making it? lol

I'm kind of curious as to how you managed to get over an ounce of keif on you. Talk about a shit ton of material you must have been processing - or really really sloppy work? According to mass spec 9-25% of the THC in that keif was in an active form...

Gastanker · Jan 8, 2012

Here is it nice and simple in math terms for you:

According to halent labs bud generally has ~1.35-6.25% THC and ~15-25% THCA of which ~ 70% can be decarbed into THC.

So with one gram of bud at 20% THCA that is .2g THCA. If 70% of this decarbs to THC that is 0.14g THC + the .02g THC that was naturally present. For most people if this is absorbed into the blood it will get them high.

Now say instead of 1g of bud we look at 10g of bud. 10g @ 2% THC is .2g THC and 2 grams of THCA. We decarb non of the THCA so we have .2g THC - wait this is more than above and the amount above can get someone high...

If you have less potent material but substantially more of it then you can still have the same amount of active material in the end. Very very simple concept. Should I assume the lab is lying about THC/THCA ratios/percentages?

Source:
Halent labs - http://www.halent.com/comparing-gas-and-liquid-chromatography-medical-marijuana-testing
"Cannabis contains two forms of “D9-THC,” the neutral D9-THC (THC) and D9-THC acid (THCA): the “total THC” equals THC + THCA. In most cannabis, 75%-91% of the “total THC” is in the form of THCA, with THC accounting for the remaining 9%-25%."

"“THCA” =D9-THCA = Delta9-THCA A: D9-tetrahydrocannabinol acid – This is the precursor to THC and is typically the most abundant cannabinoid produced in most plants grown at present. (Dried cannabis typically contains 15-25% THCA.) A large fraction (but not all ) of the THCA converts to THC upon strong heating (> 220°F). The amount converted depends on the details of the temperature and timing. THCA has been shown to have anti-spasmodic and anti-proliferative (anti-cancer) properties, as well as evidence of anti-inflammatory activity. (In fact, there are other acid forms of THC, but they are almost always present in only very small quantities. THCA A and THCA B differ only in the placement of the carboxylic acid group. THCA A is almost always the version referred to when no designation is made.)"

"“THC"= “D9-THC” = Delta9-THC = D9-tetrahydrocannabinol – Thought to be the most psychoactive of the cannabinoids and largely attributed with many beneficial medical properties, such as pain relief, appetite stimulation, anti-spasmodic properties, anti-emetic properties and many more. Plants don’t produce this compound directly. (Dried plant material contains only a few percent THC.) It is produced from THCA (see next entry) by heating or exposure to UV light. Not all THCA ends up as THC. Heating has been shown to convert at most about 70% of the THCA into THC. The “D9” in the name indicates the specific location of a carbon-carbon double-bond in one of the rings."

Can you get high by touching weed??? I feel it!!! :-/

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