Can someone look over the components for my grow set up?

Tim Fox

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You all know I was joking about huge filters and big RV, hahaha
I think the only thing I would do on my first grow would be soil
 
whats interesting is some strains are more effected by vapor pressure,, for me the Oregon Diesel , and the Sour Diesels were both taco twisters, so much so i even pulled the oregon diesel on that grow, so i could crank up the light on the other 3 i had at the time
Hey Tim just curious what are the numbers on the chart and where do you wanna stay in the chart for optimum humidity and temps? Thanks
Skunk
 

Tim Fox

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Hey Tim just curious what are the numbers on the chart and where do you wanna stay in the chart for optimum humidity and temps? Thanks
Skunk
if your plants look Good,, then there really isnt a need to worry much about the chart,, BUT if your plants are "taco-ing" or cupping the leaves, (like how people can curl thier tongues),,,, then its vapor pressure,, and what you want is your temps and humidity to be such that your in the Beige area of the chart,, I find certain strains are more inclined to suffer,, where as many dont,, hope this helps
 
if your plants look Good,, then there really isnt a need to worry much about the chart,, BUT if your plants are "taco-ing" or cupping the leaves, (like how people can curl thier tongues),,,, then its vapor pressure,, and what you want is your temps and humidity to be such that your in the Beige area of the chart,, I find certain strains are more inclined to suffer,, where as many dont,, hope this helps
Yes Tim your advice is much appreciated.but still don't understand the (7.1, 9.4 ) ect.. what are those numbers for how to use the chart? I see the temps and humidity so when I align them up to a certain box with a number in it what is that number and how or what tool do you use?
Iam grateful for the answer
Skunk
 
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Tim Fox

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The chart shows you the temperature along the left axis and the humidity is on the top. The numbers that run between the two axis are the vapor pressure deficit numbers.

For cannabis, there is a sweet spot that varies through the growth cycle of the plant. Look at the plant and compare what we are trying to do with what a body builder does. We are trying to stack weight on while maintaining a beautiful structure.

By adjusting the sweet spot of your room, you can also speed or slow the uptake of nutrients to the plant. Using these little tweaks, you will optimize the environment for your plants to thrive in.

So set your room temp and humidity , and where they cross on the graph is the "vapor pressure",, the number should be kept close to 8.0 or So, sometimes 9.0 thats the sweet spot, and the plant is far happier,,,

if you cant adjust your humidity,, then adjust your temp, if you can adjust both, then set your temp in a happy place, like 75 and then set your humidity to match the prefered vapor pressure

you can check temps and humidity with a meter easily purchased from amazon like this one
https://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-Humidity-Thermometer-Hygrometer-Indicator/dp/B0013BKDO8/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_201_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=H411FY30HQ11Y2SKF7NP
 
:arrow::arrow:Thank you so much Tim, for the in depth lesson. I appreciate you taking your time to further explain it.
Is it ok if I can follow you bud?
Also how do I give you "likes"
I haven't figured that out either.:bigjoint:
Peace bro
 

Tim Fox

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:arrow::arrow:Thank you so much Tim, for the in depth lesson. I appreciate you taking your time to further explain it.
Is it ok if I can follow you bud?
Also how do I give you "likes"
I haven't figured that out either.:bigjoint:
Peace bro
sure, i dont do very much around here,, but i post a little here and there
 

Tim Fox

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@Tim Fox does that chart apply when its lights off?
humidity is very important especially in flower,, so the chart doesnt go out the door when the lights are off, the plants still need to breath properly and transpire, even though less in darkness, the life of the plant still goes on,,,
humidity level in flower becomes more important to keep things like mold rot and powdery mildew at bay
 

Dr. Who

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The chart shows you the temperature along the left axis and the humidity is on the top. The numbers that run between the two axis are the vapor pressure deficit numbers.

For cannabis, there is a sweet spot that varies through the growth cycle of the plant. Look at the plant and compare what we are trying to do with what a body builder does. We are trying to stack weight on while maintaining a beautiful structure.

By adjusting the sweet spot of your room, you can also speed or slow the uptake of nutrients to the plant. Using these little tweaks, you will optimize the environment for your plants to thrive in.

So set your room temp and humidity , and where they cross on the graph is the "vapor pressure",, the number should be kept close to 8.0 or So, sometimes 9.0 thats the sweet spot, and the plant is far happier,,,

if you cant adjust your humidity,, then adjust your temp, if you can adjust both, then set your temp in a happy place, like 75 and then set your humidity to match the prefered vapor pressure

you can check temps and humidity with a meter easily purchased from amazon like this one
https://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-Humidity-Thermometer-Hygrometer-Indicator/dp/B0013BKDO8/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_201_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=H411FY30HQ11Y2SKF7NP

SURE! Go ahead and run at 65% RH or higher.....You will, inevitably, learn first hand how bad it is to battle powdery mildew!

By far, the vast majority of bottled nutrients are formulated to be used at about 50% RH..

If your not using Co2 at 1K ppm or higher.....Throw the VPD chart OUT, and run at 45-50% Rh. Feed accordingly and grow a healthy, vigorous plant, that produce high yields and quality...

The only time the VPD chart should be followed in growing MJ.....Is when gassing with Co2...
IF you were gassing at 1300 ppm
You would use an environmental controller set to 88 F for temp. and 80% RH.....If you ran at normal temps and RH. The gas would not be effectively used by the plant...
controller would shut off the gas at the 88 F or 80% and exhaust the grow space. It shuts off at a set level and starts the gas again. The heat and RH build back to the set point and it all starts over again...

My RH set point on my Dehuey's is 45% Been doing it for decades....
 

Tim Fox

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SURE! Go ahead and run at 65% RH or higher.....You will, inevitably, learn first hand how bad it is to battle powdery mildew!

By far, the vast majority of bottled nutrients are formulated to be used at about 50% RH..

If your not using Co2 at 1K ppm or higher.....Throw the VPD chart OUT, and run at 45-50% Rh. Feed accordingly and grow a healthy, vigorous plant, that produce high yields and quality...

The only time the VPD chart should be followed in growing MJ.....Is when gassing with Co2...
IF you were gassing at 1300 ppm
You would use an environmental controller set to 88 F for temp. and 80% RH.....If you ran at normal temps and RH. The gas would not be effectively used by the plant...
controller would shut off the gas at the 88 F or 80% and exhaust the grow space. It shuts off at a set level and starts the gas again. The heat and RH build back to the set point and it all starts over again...

My RH set point on my Dehuey's is 45% Been doing it for decades....
i do not run my humidity ever at 65 percent,,
 

Tim Fox

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By far, the vast majority of bottled nutrients are formulated to be used at about 50% RH..
i am an organic no till soil grower,, i never use bottle nutes,,
The only time the VPD chart should be followed in growing MJ.....Is when gassing with Co2...
IF you were gassing at 1300 ppm
i dont use c02

i have not seen powdery mildew on one of my grows now in over 2 years,,
thanks for your input
 

kingtitan

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superponics 8 grow system. I would ditch this thing? The dude is selling you a tote with holes, a pump and air pump for $300. you should be ably to make that thing yourself for under $40
 

cjsbabygirl313

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superponics 8 grow system. I would ditch this thing? The dude is selling you a tote with holes, a pump and air pump for $300. you should be ably to make that thing yourself for under $40
Yup, I ditched that idea. My first grow is now underway; the link is in my signature if you’d like to check it out or follow along :-)
 

Dr. Who

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i am an organic no till soil grower,, i never use bottle nutes,,

i dont use c02

i have not seen powdery mildew on one of my grows now in over 2 years,,
thanks for your input
We all have our ways,,,eh?

I do mostly WOSS I build myself. Our dial in's for our nutrient levels would not produce the same results in each's differing RH values chosen.

I do know, you know that too....

1 power outage and the resulting PM war. Made me change to the lower RH and re-adjust my mix ratio's.

I pass you a knock on wood and a good luck blessing to not have my experience!

Respect to you Mr. Fox...
 

Tim Fox

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We all have our ways,,,eh?

I do mostly WOSS I build myself. Our dial in's for our nutrient levels would not produce the same results in each's differing RH values chosen.

I do know, you know that too....

1 power outage and the resulting PM war. Made me change to the lower RH and re-adjust my mix ratio's.

I pass you a knock on wood and a good luck blessing to not have my experience!

Respect to you Mr. Fox...
its all sounds good when I am stoned,, hahahah
 
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