Can someone list some benefits of vertical growing?
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verticalgrow
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vertical 26x more yield, nuff said
Darth Vapour
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yeah keep thinking that your on the right track lol
Darth Vapour
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There is no tilting ?? what i posted above is a perfect example .37 GPW vertical yield compared horizontal i even used the so called bad mars LED and it yielded 450 grams compared to 167 total grams from 450 watt led vertical
I never came in here trying to start anything like i said Do it because you want to try something new, but not because it's a way to guarantee bigger or even better yields, because in my experience it isn't. You only have to do your reading to see that for many other people, it isn't either.
It is a cool way to grow, and fun. But it's got to be projected properly and the truth I think gets lost a bit in the myth.
ttystikk
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Kind of like when your girlfriend complains about sex with you being a pain in the ass, that low yield number would be because you're doing it wrong.
Darth Vapour
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No no sir i understand now that you have a mental disorder could this be why Give me a sec i go find the post lol where other people are doing your grow and your taking the credit for there work i see i will pm the guy see what he says about that and copy his post to here
brb.
PS Still patiently waiting to see some 600 vertcial / and 1000 watt vertical single bulb donut lmao yields
Yo twisk curious in your single 4 x 6 sngle bulb grow haha with only what 4 weeks veg from fresh cuttings haha Fresh cutting does this mean you just went a took a cut nd 4 weeks later its one of your imaginary TREES 's ???
brb.
PS Still patiently waiting to see some 600 vertcial / and 1000 watt vertical single bulb donut lmao yields
Yo twisk curious in your single 4 x 6 sngle bulb grow haha with only what 4 weeks veg from fresh cuttings haha Fresh cutting does this mean you just went a took a cut nd 4 weeks later its one of your imaginary TREES 's ???
ttystikk
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Darth Vapour
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Awe look what i found please tell us Twisk that this is going to be 2 pound harvest ?? or even 1 pound lol oh please please please
And it amazes me what some people call trees haha specially in vertical section
But seriously Twisk your BS has got to stop .... misleading people into thinking that if they go vert there yields are going to be better
Here is a little reminder people it takes allot buds to make a pound actually 4 times more to make a pound ,, being 4 pounds wet will put you into 1 pound dry
and Twisk that is no where close to 4 pounds wet let alone 1 pound dry
Its all coming together your pretty green behind the Ear still but set in your ways, TWISK can't wait to here what it yielded lol ..
PS wanna see what a real pound plant looks like ? So pease Feed us some more first pic is yours lol
And it amazes me what some people call trees haha specially in vertical section
But seriously Twisk your BS has got to stop .... misleading people into thinking that if they go vert there yields are going to be better
Here is a little reminder people it takes allot buds to make a pound actually 4 times more to make a pound ,, being 4 pounds wet will put you into 1 pound dry
and Twisk that is no where close to 4 pounds wet let alone 1 pound dry
Its all coming together your pretty green behind the Ear still but set in your ways, TWISK can't wait to here what it yielded lol ..
PS wanna see what a real pound plant looks like ? So pease Feed us some more first pic is yours lol
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Darth Vapour
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awe Twisk wrong picture of your plant 
lol yeah tell us this is single bulb grow haha
and please tell us its a pound or 1200 dry grams i call BS here is your imaginary pound plant Yup dream on
lol yeah tell us this is single bulb grow haha and please tell us its a pound or 1200 dry grams i call BS here is your imaginary pound plant Yup dream on
PKHydro
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16-18 on average. Although I'm chopping a crop down tomorrow and I swear I have one plant that's gotta be 1.5lbs
ttystikk
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Ok, I call your bullshit. As soon as I know, I'll post exactly what 'the hydra' came to. Average of the three best guesses so far? Twenty zips. It's a naturally fluffy strain and we didn't fill in the rack completely, so no one thinks she's a record breaker.awe Twisk wrong picture of your plant
and please tell us its a pound or 1200 dry grams i call BS here is your imaginary pound plant Yup dream on View attachment 3544874
To be completely clear, she was grown under only 30W/ft² of rather inefficient lighting, even if the CRI is stellar. Magnetic ballasts. Uneven climate control. No CO².
These problems are even now being addressed, with commensurate improvements in per plant and per crop yields expected.
Without boring with details, suffice to say that we're well on our way to proving that vertical growing is a completely normal approach to growing cannabis indoors.
If you like flatlander style so much, go play in those threads. I don't want anyone to read what you post here and accidentally believe any of it.
Darth Vapour
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believe any of it ???? lets see here i just read 600 watt vertical did 14 oz lol
lets break this down so there is no confusion being you know how vertical is presented at so much more efficient, more space ,,
even a 4th grader could take it as there just plain n simple stating that its the better way to grow
But is it
So lets break this down 600 watt HPS achieved 14 oz which = 392 grams which really breaks it down to .65 GPW
Sir that is terrible efficiency and terrible results in real world that grow was a disaster 600 watt horizontal will pull you a pound for even the novice grower these days
Twisk dont be upset that i am speaking the truth lets not forget one thing here cowboy its vertical that came into the scene claiming it be superior to horizontal lighting , but its not true cause well if thats, the case then why is it not blowing Horizontal out of the water .. truth is NOT EVEN FUCKING CLOSE ..
keeping a open mind is key to success but what i am seeing is vertical growers have a narrow depth of perception ,, straight up horizontal single bulb vs vertical single bulb horizontal wins
remember you can only put so many plants in that donut and really speaking the truth how tall is the bulb and is there dead spots ??? and finally how much of the plant are you harvesting of Grade A bud and how much of the plant is LARF
here is a picture i found 1000 watt hid 2 - 400 CMH owe and by the way yet another .5 GPW grow or what said grower said he is achieving and admiringly states its not as effcient
what do you think 1800 watts lets say 1000 watt in middle and the 2 - 400's CMH on out side would accomplish horizontally ?? i would place bets a hell of lot better then .5
Twisk would you like me to find some more journals
You all see that the few multi vertical growers are pulling some decent yields but again lets be realistic what the average grower will grow with 1 - 2 - 3 Lights
See i am stating facts here .5 1800 watt grow is a fucking DISASTER grown Horizontally but i guess in the vert world you killed it lol
I just don't get it
lets break this down so there is no confusion being you know how vertical is presented at so much more efficient, more space ,,
even a 4th grader could take it as there just plain n simple stating that its the better way to grow
But is it
So lets break this down 600 watt HPS achieved 14 oz which = 392 grams which really breaks it down to .65 GPW
Sir that is terrible efficiency and terrible results in real world that grow was a disaster 600 watt horizontal will pull you a pound for even the novice grower these days
Twisk dont be upset that i am speaking the truth lets not forget one thing here cowboy its vertical that came into the scene claiming it be superior to horizontal lighting , but its not true cause well if thats, the case then why is it not blowing Horizontal out of the water .. truth is NOT EVEN FUCKING CLOSE ..
keeping a open mind is key to success but what i am seeing is vertical growers have a narrow depth of perception ,, straight up horizontal single bulb vs vertical single bulb horizontal wins
remember you can only put so many plants in that donut and really speaking the truth how tall is the bulb and is there dead spots ??? and finally how much of the plant are you harvesting of Grade A bud and how much of the plant is LARF
here is a picture i found 1000 watt hid 2 - 400 CMH owe and by the way yet another .5 GPW grow or what said grower said he is achieving and admiringly states its not as effcient
what do you think 1800 watts lets say 1000 watt in middle and the 2 - 400's CMH on out side would accomplish horizontally ?? i would place bets a hell of lot better then .5
Twisk would you like me to find some more journals
You all see that the few multi vertical growers are pulling some decent yields but again lets be realistic what the average grower will grow with 1 - 2 - 3 Lights
See i am stating facts here .5 1800 watt grow is a fucking DISASTER grown Horizontally but i guess in the vert world you killed it lol
I just don't get it
Darth Vapour
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awe shit here 2000 watt horizontal and dude i killed it less then 2 week veg from 2 " clones that were suppose to be sold but guy never came n picked them up so just threw them in a make shift room 0 ventilation in the dead heat of summer lol and another this one 2000 5 x 10 scrog 2156 dry grams or 1.078 GPW 5 plants at that lol
truth is even the the big Multi light guys very very few are hitting them numbers so which is Twisk
Since i got that i am being rude comment i figure i am not going to be rude i am just going to ram it down vert growers throats Stay tuned going to post many vert grows and there GPW
Its not my fault many cannot see the truth behind the Vertical Myth and like i said since heath's miracle GPW vertical grow let me remind you all 10 + years ago and the advancements in the lights and what have you surely someone would of matched or even beat his so called FAIRY tale numbers even with Critical mass
Ask your self how come why hasn't it ??? owe and patiently waiting on some single donut vertical yields
truth is even the the big Multi light guys very very few are hitting them numbers so which is Twisk
Since i got that i am being rude comment i figure i am not going to be rude i am just going to ram it down vert growers throats Stay tuned going to post many vert grows and there GPW
Its not my fault many cannot see the truth behind the Vertical Myth and like i said since heath's miracle GPW vertical grow let me remind you all 10 + years ago and the advancements in the lights and what have you surely someone would of matched or even beat his so called FAIRY tale numbers even with Critical mass
Ask your self how come why hasn't it ??? owe and patiently waiting on some single donut vertical yields
ttystikk
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Barf Vapid, LOL
Hasn't anyone told you, a wall of blather does not a valid argument make.
700W of 28% efficient lighting, or about 400 PPfd, made that result in the pic.
That's a decent result no matter how it's oriented. The advantage to vertical isn't a magical increase in yield, it's a decrease in space required to get it.
Hasn't anyone told you, a wall of blather does not a valid argument make.
700W of 28% efficient lighting, or about 400 PPfd, made that result in the pic.
That's a decent result no matter how it's oriented. The advantage to vertical isn't a magical increase in yield, it's a decrease in space required to get it.
NebulousPLM
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https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=249228
^ A thread dedicated to vert. grows and their yeilds. A few bare bulb 1000w results.
^ A thread dedicated to vert. grows and their yeilds. A few bare bulb 1000w results.
ttystikk
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I love it, started three years ago... it absolutely kills me that no one in this industry is seriously investigating the technique right now.
m4s73r
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here is what made me go vertical. So when i was a younger chap, less experienced then I am now, I was blooming under a 8B T5 unit. had a 4 bulb for veg. I WAS ROCKING THAT SHIT. But it didnt put out enough. So I decided to get a 600 watt. But im cheap. I scrubed websites for the cheapest prices vs quality on and on forEVER. So i found my Ballast (Solistek still running). then i came across Heath Robinson. First let me say that the number of crazy hydro things i came up with was astounding. Sorta. I was really high. I digress. So all i had seen was people tearing apart cool tubes for barebulbs. Then i came across a vertical socket. 35 bucks. vs 190 i was about to spend on a reflector. Umm.... SOLD! Simple as that
So Barth, strip away all your wall o text about 135% or what ever you were talking about that i glazed over after 10 words, And that makes it Better. Its cheaper. you can say WHATEVER in the world you want about a vertical vs horizontal and the answer is still the same. Vertical is cheaper. Cheaper is better. Therefore Vertical wins.
Also you are sorta coming off like a giant tool. You should stop that. Its ugly and doesnt make friends well. Socializing is great and one of the wonderful things about the internet. However youre asshatness totally kills that vibe. Stop that. Stop it now.
TO THE CHOPPER!
(see i can put random things in my posts to fuck with people too)
So Barth, strip away all your wall o text about 135% or what ever you were talking about that i glazed over after 10 words, And that makes it Better. Its cheaper. you can say WHATEVER in the world you want about a vertical vs horizontal and the answer is still the same. Vertical is cheaper. Cheaper is better. Therefore Vertical wins.
Also you are sorta coming off like a giant tool. You should stop that. Its ugly and doesnt make friends well. Socializing is great and one of the wonderful things about the internet. However youre asshatness totally kills that vibe. Stop that. Stop it now.
TO THE CHOPPER!
(see i can put random things in my posts to fuck with people too)
bdt1981
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There is one vert coliseum gro with a bad ass aero ponic rail set up that got 2.5 gpw somewhere on here. His shit was bad ass tho kinda a hybrid vert horiz gro. Kinda.
For real tho this thread just got better and better as the truth came out. I just want to know how much of the plant canopy is wasted in a vert gro with one whole side of the plant not getting used. And did i hear someone say 90 day veg? Unless its a major big scrog and kept very low its a complete waste of time. And the product is at best middle shelf quality. Weak bag appeal airy ass buds 90 day veg would be good if u had a huge pot and out out side.
I had to jump in and say something didnt mean to intrude on anybodys vert roast..
For real tho this thread just got better and better as the truth came out. I just want to know how much of the plant canopy is wasted in a vert gro with one whole side of the plant not getting used. And did i hear someone say 90 day veg? Unless its a major big scrog and kept very low its a complete waste of time. And the product is at best middle shelf quality. Weak bag appeal airy ass buds 90 day veg would be good if u had a huge pot and out out side.
I had to jump in and say something didnt mean to intrude on anybodys vert roast..
bdt1981
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That looks like a mess of hammered shit
ttystikk
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I've figured out what vert does and does not do. It does not magically create extra light. It does not multiply the effectiveness of watts per square foot.
I know exactly what it does. It does something very important, but no one here seems to understand what that is.
I know exactly what it does. It does something very important, but no one here seems to understand what that is.