can i grow outdoors?

Discussion in 'Michigan Patients' started by at0m666, Jul 25, 2010.

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    at0m666

    at0m666 Active Member

    i've seen/heard that you can grow your medicinal crops outdoors, which would be awesome, but..

    do your plants need to be in a "locked, secure facility" as stated on the MMJ papers from DOCH?

    i might invest in a small gated section that is locked if you need to go thru these measures. i trust my location and surroundings, so is this a possibility?
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    rzza

    rzza Well-Known Member

    (c) "Enclosed, locked facility" means a closet, room, or other enclosed area equipped with locks or other security devices that permit access only by a registered primary caregiver or registered qualifying patient.

    IMO you can have a greenhouse if it locks and your the only one with access. ill be concidering this for next yeaR.


    EDIT:what else could they be refering to by "or other"?
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    rzza

    rzza Well-Known Member

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    at0m666

    at0m666 Active Member

    thanks, (see, were still friends!) lol.
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    rzza

    rzza Well-Known Member

    of course man lol

    you wont agree with everything someone says/does.
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    at0m666

    at0m666 Active Member

    true that. my plan is to either get a fence put into my back yard or get a greenhouse. still weighing the pros and cons of each one.
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    BlueFossil

    BlueFossil Member

    I would be very careful about growing outdoors. I live in the West Branch area and a guy got busted around here because he had his plants outdoors. They were in a locked shed without a roof. I believe he is still awaiting trial so it will be interesting to see what comes of it.
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    at0m666

    at0m666 Active Member

    the roof it what probably fucked him. they probably are saying people could just hop over and get in. i'm thinking super locked shit.
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    BlueFossil

    BlueFossil Member

    yeah a greenhouse might do the trick. I know it would be nice to just grow in a greenhouse during the summer months. Sure would save a lot of money on electricity for lights and cooling.
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    at0m666

    at0m666 Active Member

    for sure. i'd do all my growing indoors during winter and most likely wouldn't need any cooling just fans. the way i cool my grow room is by building a box around the AC vent in my room, then attaching a fan blowing all the cool air down about an 8 foot hallway, then a box fan catching the cool air and forcing it into the room. probably not the most efficient but i can't afford to run an individual unit at this time.
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    Kruzty

    Kruzty Well-Known Member

    As most new growers find out, growing here out doors is a gamble. The R/H will rot your buds without a dehumy runnin. I know of several folks cry'in this past fall due to bud rot.No way around it here as we have so maney lakes and dew points in the high 70's. G-house will work but you'll have to run a dehum or your shit will rot
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    abe supercro

    abe supercro Well-Known Member

    So that looks like one large expense, a large dehumidifier in addition to the greenhouse, and security!
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    SketchyGrower

    SketchyGrower Well-Known Member

    a secure completely climate controlled greenhouse would be unbelievably amazing! one can dream...
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    abe supercro

    abe supercro Well-Known Member

    Just think everyday, "I Must Have This" and eventually a professional greenhouse will appear... Along with a hot tub and an in-ground swimming pool within an enclosed structure to be enjoyed all winter. unlimited fresh roast coffee and a hot new girlfriend would round out the fantasy perfectly. I find these concepts highly motivating. 
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    gladstoned

    gladstoned Well-Known Member

    Yep, greenhouse would be sweet. Maybe next year. Is it really possible to secure, or do you have to keep it secure the old fashioned way - Shoot the first person that tries to break in and wait for word to spread?
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    abe supercro

    abe supercro Well-Known Member

    The old fashion way does work. I'm aware of a helpless old man who grows and kept having repeated break-ins. Until one day, one of the perps had to eat his bullets (who's helpless now, bitch?). In the three yrs he had probation, the old man hasn't had a single additional break-in. Word on the street is, "He will F' you up!!"
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    Lionden

    Lionden Active Member

    As Far as i was told by my lawyer enclosed means 4 walls and a ROOF, so i would design it with that in mind.
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    tomcatjones

    tomcatjones Active Member


    a lock and cameras and you'll be good


    but no.. a roof is not necessary.

    an enclosure does not need a roof by definition and as long as someone can't hop the thing easily.. put some razor wire on top :D
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    bmf725

    bmf725 Active Member

    If the new bill 4851 passes the senate witch is highly likely since it passed so easily in the house. This is what will be considered a legal outdoor grow.

    [MARIHUANA PLANTS GROWN OUTDOORS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE IN AN ENCLOSED, LOCKED FACILITY IF THEY ARE GROWN WITHIN A STATIONARY
    STRUCTURE THAT IS ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:
    (1) ANCHORED, ATTACHED, OR AFFIXED TO THE GROUND.
    (2) LOCATED ON LAND THAT IS OWNED, LEASED, OR RENTED BY EITHER:
    (A) THE REGISTERED QUALIFYING PATIENT TO WHOM THE MARIHUANA PLANTS BELONG.
    (B) THE PERSON DESIGNATED THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTAL REGISTRATION
    PROCESS AS THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER FOR THE REGISTERED PATIENT OR PATIENTS.
    (3) EQUIPPED WITH FUNCTIONING LOCKS OR OTHER SECURITY DEVICES THAT PERMIT ACCESS ONLY BY THE REGISTERED PRIMARY CAREGIVER OR REGISTERED QUALIFYING PATIENT WHOSE PROPERTY THE STRUCTURE IS LOCATED UPON.
    (4) ENCLOSED ON ALL SIDES, EXCEPT FOR THE BASE, BY CHAIN-LINK FENCING, WIRE MESH, WOODEN SLATS, OR A SIMILAR MATERIAL THAT PREVENTS ACCESS BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC.]



    I wonder if a 15ft deep trench with a crocodile in it surrounding the grow site would be considered "other security devices?
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    gladstoned

    gladstoned Well-Known Member

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