can i cut clone from flowering plant, then keep clone in 12/12,

would it just continue to grow like the flowering plant it came off, or would it just veg even in 12 12 lighting...I am just curious what would happen, and I don't have the space to just try it, otherwise I would.... I love to hear about new ideas, or tricks/technique, always down to learn.....thanks guys...
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I haven't heard of clones (or any other stage of plant maturity) vegging well under 12/12. However, I've seen several other forum members who go directly from clone to flower with some success. I personally don't like the idea of taking a clone from a flowering mother plant because it messes with the hormones and can stress the clone enough to alter gene expression, and you could end up with a hermie. No harm in trying it though, as long as you check it regularly for male parts.

cool, thanks you guys...I have heard of ppl doing some technique to get just a giant bud growing out the ground...I haven't looked into it, and so this way I asked you guys about was the only way I could think up, to get one giant bud growing. would be cool huh? lol I did take a cutting off it when it was around 3 wks flowering, about 4 weeks ago, and it is just now finally starting to take root....thought it was surly gonna die! lol....but again, thanks for humoring me, I just have a wandering mind, and no room to play mad scientist. one day I will have that perfect grow room we all want. lol, until then, I will just keep growing my midgets!

vostok said:

Sure you can, ...I do the same with males when I need pollen,
just one lateral/stem with pollen 6 inches long is all I need, place in a jar of water
any longer than a few days, insert fish tank air pump, or place in your bubble cloner
the cutting will stay budding under 12x12, to get roots go 18x6​

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haven't seen you on here lately, how you been?

I've been playing around growing these with different methods for the last 6 months or so. The little guy in the bottom-left corner, 1gal pot, is exactly what you're describing, probably 1/2 oz when it's done. You can do it but I've tried a few options and the best imo is to let them go big and grow them out. This one, although it produced some, was a single cola, nothing like when you re-veg them a bit. They take much longer to root and essentially re-veg before they take off and start flowering again, so imo they're not the best for short runs like straight from clone to 12/12.

I did one outdoor this year and it went out mid July so basically had 2 weeks then straight into flowering, looks like 1.5 oz, 10 colas, no training. I'll be running another indoor shortly but vegging this one for a few weeks, it's already growing crazy amount of nodes and should be a good size before going into flowering. The main benefit is crazy amount of nodes/colas with little if any training, the one I grew outdoor pretty well matched cola numbers with a similar but trained indoor plant (same strain). So far from what I've seen, the best use for these "monster crop" clones would be to grow them out a bit and once they're well into re-vegging (normal new growth, not the mutant growth/leaves you get for the first few weeks), get them outdoor as early as possible. This would take advantage of the extra nodes/colas and require no training, could even do it guerrilla and likely increase your yield significantly. Otherwise, indoor grow it into a good 24"+ plant before flipping and it should produce well with little if any training.

well, I have had my cutting for about 3 weeks, and it seems to slowly be dying off, but I haven't given up hope yet....
so GroErr, you got the above plant to do that by supercropping it? it looks amazing. I just hope I can get mine to take root. I really should had cut a few off in anticipation of not every cutting to take root. I have read that that far into flower may or may not take root, so its wise to take 3-4 cuts, in hopes that one does take. I am just using some m.gro fast root, that I have used for other plants (not mj) so I think it should do the trick... I hope so, cause monstor cropping seems to be the only way for my guerilla style of growing, gotta maximize my small space to get the biggest yield possible...I gotta admit, the one I got going right now is turning out to be a smaller yield then expected. always a bummer. how long should it take in yr experience to take root there GROeER?and what you use for root stimulation?

GreenThumbsMcgee said:

well, I have had my cutting for about 3 weeks, and it seems to slowly be dying off, but I haven't given up hope yet....
so GroErr, you got the above plant to do that by supercropping it? it looks amazing. I just hope I can get mine to take root. I really should had cut a few off in anticipation of not every cutting to take root. I have read that that far into flower may or may not take root, so its wise to take 3-4 cuts, in hopes that one does take. I am just using some m.gro fast root, that I have used for other plants (not mj) so I think it should do the trick... I hope so, cause monstor cropping seems to be the only way for my guerilla style of growing, gotta maximize my small space to get the biggest yield possible...I gotta admit, the one I got going right now is turning out to be a smaller yield then expected. always a bummer. how long should it take in yr experience to take root there GROeER?and what you use for root stimulation?

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Hey Greenthumbs, the larger plant was not a clone from flowering mom, just a regular clone. But I did supercrop, LST and FIM that bigger one, it was only vegged for about 3 weeks then thrown into the tent fro breeding when I had too many plants to flower. The smaller clone, bottom-left was the monster-crop clone an went straight into 12/12 from rooting. Training definitely pays off, I start training from about 2 weeks after they root for clones, 4 weeks or so for seedlings. What I found with a larger monster crop clone I ran outdoor this summer was that even with no training, it branched out a lot more than normal clones. I'll definitely be trying these outdoor next year.

As far as rooting powders/gels or any form of soil/medium cloning, I use an aero cloner, DIY'd one last year around this time and haven't gone back to any other method, only other method I've used a couple of times since building the aero cloner was stick a couple of cuttings straight into soil when I didn't want to bother firing up the cloner, no gels, no scraping, nothing, and they took well.

These monster crop clones do take longer, svn in an aero cloner, normal clones typically root for me in 7-10 days, the monster crop clones take closer to 12-16 days. Even then, they take another 2 weeks after rooting to start growing normal leaves/growth again, but once they start they grow very quick.

yea, I actually gave up on mine, I didn't have anything fancy to try to root it, and I didn't really give it a fair chance....just was actually doing it for the hell of it, to see if it would even take root, and if it did, sweet, but if not, no loss.
my buddy has a nice method for clones, I usually just give him some cuttings for free, so that when I need in return, they are there...I don't have room for a mother, so that works to keep this amazing strain I have alive! its hanging in there (Y) hahha~

GroErr said:

Hey Greenthumbs, the larger plant was not a clone from flowering mom, just a regular clone. But I did supercrop, LST and FIM that bigger one, it QUOTE]
hey Groerr, I did the same thing with the one I got going right now dude. I have limited space, on height, so I love to lst the fuck outta my plants. I CANNOT wait untili can grow out in the open, no restrictions, then it'll be on...but the way I do these gals, is I just top em early on, and lst em from there, keeps em short, and yield is usually good =) I absolutlely in love with the currnet strain! power kush by dinafem. hands down, best strain yet.

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well, I am having issues getting pics up. anyway, this is my current strain, that I absolutely love. its Dinafem's Power Kush.in about wk 6 of flower. it honestly JUST started to pack on weight. I was starting to think it may had been a huge disappointmen, but I had patience, and patience sure did pay off. this sucker still gots 4 more wks, before its about time, give er take, depending on what she tells me!
point of me posting pics, is caus I love feed back, and also, I think power kush deserves a shout out. what a strain.
oh, GroErr, this on too was just toped early on, and then lst'ed the fuck outta it.....usually how I do it, since I got height limitations

^feel free to drop critique on me! always appreciated.

GreenThumbsMcgee said:

well, I am having issues getting pics up. anyway, this is my current strain, that I absolutely love. its Dinafem's Power Kush.in about wk 6 of flower. it honestly JUST started to pack on weight. I was starting to think it may had been a huge disappointmen, but I had patience, and patience sure did pay off. this sucker still gots 4 more wks, before its about time, give er take, depending on what she tells me!
point of me posting pics, is caus I love feed back, and also, I think power kush deserves a shout out. what a strain.
oh, GroErr, this on too was just toped early on, and then lst'ed the fuck outta it.....usually how I do it, since I got height limitations

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Looks good, most strains tend to do that, pack on a lot of weight in the last 3-4 weeks. Just keep it healthy/happy for a few more weeks and it'll reward you fine. Even if you end up getting some extra space, def continue top/fim/lst, look into super-cropping too, all very productive methods of increasing yield for sure.

Just trimmed up up those 2 larger plants in the tent I posted above, 6.6 zips dry, not bad, those had some LST/FIM's and one was super-cropped. The little monster-crop clone wasn't worthwhile, only got like 8g from it, they definitely do much better letting them veg/grow a bit before flipping them.

not bad at all man! yea, I think I will be impressed with her. if I get over an OZ I am happy. she sure is packing on nice crystal that isn't showing up on my shitty camera's pics. I need something I can really zoom in with!

GreenThumbsMcgee said:

not bad at all man! yea, I think I will be impressed with her. if I get over an OZ I am happy. she sure is packing on nice crystal that isn't showing up on my shitty camera's pics. I need something I can really zoom in with!

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I just use a high end camera, but if you don't have one loupes are easy/cheap to find online.

GroErr said:

I just use a high end camera, but if you don't have one loupes are easy/cheap to find online.

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not familiar with that.... but thanks for input man.

last grow I did, I started using these CREE style led bulbs because I was battling heat with the CFL's and I cant afford anything more high end, but let me tell ya boy! these CREE bulbs work wonders. I got aprx 12 in my box, right now, I got 8 red bulbs, and 5 blues. it works great...I just spin my plant, so it gets all sorts of light.crees are hands down the way to go on a budget. I get nice dense compacted buds, far more compacted then the cfl grows I had done in the past. not sure if it is just the type of light they put out, but the plants respond beautifully to them.

Yeah, those crees are the best option on a budget, with the prices coming down there's no comparison in efficiency/output compared to CFL's and much less heat. I only use a couple of CFL bulbs in a breeding tent, and that's just for the extra heat, otherwise I mix in LED bulbs if I want additional lighting, no comparison in the effectiveness and efficiency of the light coming off Cree LED's vs. CFL's, that's why you're seeing the improvements in density and growth for sure, nice.