Can hydro taste as good as soil??
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Runbho
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I'm all for soil. Not a fan of hydro. But have been to Amsterdam and thoroughly researched their cannabis scene, I have to respectfully disagree. Amsterdam is 99% hydro in my opinion. All grown for weight. In fact, you can get bud labeled "bio" in Amsterdam leading you to believe its organic. It's not. It's just grown in soil. Their "bio" which is synthetic nutes grown in soil, is typically their connoisseur quality.
Runbho
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Seriously, dude? Would you expect anything more from a member of this site? Like you really think I noticed that? Uh, nope. 9 years or 9 days. It's all just time, man. Lol
Runbho
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I wonder if hydro NOW tastes as good as soil seeing how there's been over 7 years of progress and development in the industry. Ha
Runbho
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I was under the same impression and have had many debates with hydro growers throughout the years and a majority of them will eventually, although passively, acquiesce and admit that yes, hydro doesn't have the level of taste and/or smell that a good soil or even a soiless mix can produce. I think coco may be a cross of both and may be the best balance of quality and efficiency for a commercial grower but I could be wrong. Time will tell. I'm about to harvest a Tahoe og pheno (Cali connection seed) in soil in just a few weeks. I'm running the same plant in my 6 site hydro system so I'm looking forward to comparing the results. I will be adding budswell and a terp product to try and maximize flavor as much as I can. If they're comparable, I'll be a full time hydro guy with my end game being a top feed drain to waste or recirculating coco grow on tables. I have nothing to back it up but my research indicates that coco may be the best of both worlds. I'm afraid to run it because I'm not on tables and don't wanna have to flush frequently. Too much work. Don't have the dough to convert either, yet.
Nugachino
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Well. I've technically only had my first run of smoke to go by. And that was a half arse attempt at doing organic soil.
Yet the smoke that came from it, although a pathetic amount, was actually really smooth. And had a nice almost fruity-piney flavor to it.
My mates all grow hydro and use hps. Or water their outdoor plants with synthetic nutes like in hydro. Most of theirs. While good. Still seems scratchy on the throat. And has that headachy after effect if I smoke too much.
I'm on my second run now. Still using the organic soil. Still running a not so cheap blurple led cob. But gotten a much larger plant this round. I'm hoping that the smoke still has that smooth profile like last run.
I've also got two tiny outdoor plants in this soil. Both flowering. So we'll see how it all turns out.
Yet the smoke that came from it, although a pathetic amount, was actually really smooth. And had a nice almost fruity-piney flavor to it.
My mates all grow hydro and use hps. Or water their outdoor plants with synthetic nutes like in hydro. Most of theirs. While good. Still seems scratchy on the throat. And has that headachy after effect if I smoke too much.
I'm on my second run now. Still using the organic soil. Still running a not so cheap blurple led cob. But gotten a much larger plant this round. I'm hoping that the smoke still has that smooth profile like last run.
I've also got two tiny outdoor plants in this soil. Both flowering. So we'll see how it all turns out.
all i can say is that my coco grown bud is extremely smooth and potent, has a good flavour. a friend brought over some "organic" bud from the dispensary, was harsh as hell, had a good flavour under the harshness though.. definitely preferred the coco bud in that instance.. but the organic bud seemed to have a more developed flavour even still.
probably safe to say that well grown hydro will taste much better than mediocre soil grown... oh and i go against most recommendations and flush my final week in coco also... not sure if that is what made my smoke smooth, or the 1 month cure lol.
the most flavourful bud i have ever had, i dont think i inquired whether it was soil or hydro.. gonna have to start making it a point to know now.
probably safe to say that well grown hydro will taste much better than mediocre soil grown... oh and i go against most recommendations and flush my final week in coco also... not sure if that is what made my smoke smooth, or the 1 month cure lol.
the most flavourful bud i have ever had, i dont think i inquired whether it was soil or hydro.. gonna have to start making it a point to know now.
If it hurts your throat and doesn't taste good someone fucked up drying and curing it or the genetics are shit. The difference between organic/synthetic is mainly environmental and the way they're delivered to the plant. Synthetics are chelated and are available immediately, while organics need to be broken down by microbes in the soil to become available to the plant. There's no difference as far as the plant is concerned between the two.
http://www.enviroingenuity.com/articles/synthetic-vs-organic-fertilizers.html
http://www.enviroingenuity.com/articles/synthetic-vs-organic-fertilizers.html
Never got good flavor in soil I could never get a complete flush now as for hydro my plants grow better and I can remove every trace of nutrients by running just fresh water in my rez for a week and get delicious nuggetsLol says the guy growing with LED's hahahah
The taste might be a little better in soil but quality... absolutely not. Hydro can put out better bud than soil in some cases and soil can put out better bud than hydro. But to say that coco and soil will always give better quality bud over hydro just shows how little you know. Thanks for the laugh
Trichometry101
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Ive vaped a lot of herb. And will say, there's a bigger difference between growers than there is strains. Hydro growers don't know that. They only have 1 sense, the sense of profitting off of ignorant people with money.
Hydro is a joke. It makes me sick. And those additives are sugar contaminant. I dont give a shit what big mike told you on a grow forum. The plant soaks up sugars and nutes (theres no micro life in hydro, they are simple molecules ready for uptake) Doesnt provide stomach relief. Soil bud is usually legit, unless the grower is using hydro nutes from the bottles. Thats the only bad tasting soil bud there is.
One mans trash is another man's treasure i guess. But most people defending hydro don't vape, dont know what a green hit is, say that blunts ruin the taste, and never heard of getting euphoric from squeezing buds. Because those things, complex flavors and smells, don't exist in the hydro cannabis world. Hydro smells so bad i cant tell if its fake or not.
Ive seen the attempts at improving hydro. Ive had the best hydro there is in the country, and it still has less flavor than good mexi brick. And how did they get any flavor whatsoever? Its basically a "hybrid" coco operation perpetually fed bottled bens/mycos and saltless nutes like Mills.
So, improving hydro is making it more like soil... What other evidence do you need. The only hydro that ever stunk up my living room had more money in bottled micros and "hybridization methods" than Ive spent on my entire soil.
Yeah bro how long u flush for??
hyroot
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Soil is always better tasting because soil will have higher brix levels than can be achieved in hydro. The higher the brix levels the higher the terpene profile. Brix levels are the sugar and mineral content of the plant. The best way to achieve highest brix levels in soil is with rockdusts, ferments (Korean Natural Farming inputs), seed sprout tea's, and high quality worm castings and or compost. Living soil produces a slightly higher cannabinoid profile as well.
The only thing hydro can do better is grow larger buds and produce a larger yield in a smaller medium and area. That includes using synthetic nutes in soil too.
Living soil will produce an over all better product. There's no arguing that at all. You need to run a 15 gallon pot minimum to achieve the same yields for the same space.
The only thing hydro can do better is grow larger buds and produce a larger yield in a smaller medium and area. That includes using synthetic nutes in soil too.
Living soil will produce an over all better product. There's no arguing that at all. You need to run a 15 gallon pot minimum to achieve the same yields for the same space.
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Nugachino
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I've smoked both soil and hydro grown. While I like the potency of some of that hydro stuff. I've found soil (organic) grown to not give me headaches, no matter how much I smoked. And generally to be more smooth and palatable than hydro.
I've grown with composted soil twice. Both times my reward was a fruity, piney scented rush of stoney waves.
A mate grows hydro with hps. His is good smoke. Just it can be headache inducing at times. Usually smells really strong too. Like 3 layers of foil strong. He laughs at my piddly LED light. Says it's pink cos its a girls light. And only real men grow with HID.
He hasn't seen a grow done with decent COBs.... yet.
I've grown with composted soil twice. Both times my reward was a fruity, piney scented rush of stoney waves.
A mate grows hydro with hps. His is good smoke. Just it can be headache inducing at times. Usually smells really strong too. Like 3 layers of foil strong. He laughs at my piddly LED light. Says it's pink cos its a girls light. And only real men grow with HID.
He hasn't seen a grow done with decent COBs.... yet.
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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yes hydro done with low nute regimen imho can taste benign..ie. not pick up the "organic"taste
and also pass on the terps well too
and also pass on the terps well too
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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then they bombard their herb woth too much of everything...
that said i like "organc " exceptn it passes on an organic fert taste