CALIFORNIA to Legalize weed for everyone

Is this for real?! So do we vote yes on a certain bill in November or what?!

Here's the latest info (that I can find):

http://laist.com/2008/07/14/marijuana_initiative_proponent_spea.php

Long story short, the guy who made the proposal does not have enough cash to gather the signatures to get it on the ballot and he's "looking for a job or grant that will allow me to continue with this work...and accepting pledges of time and/or money to determine whether there is critical mass to push forward with this initiative."

is this a 100% legit?? Thats not to many people, theres probably 700,000 stoners alone in cali, so it looks like Cali Will be legalized?!?!?!?!???????

fuck that. ilove how it is now. legal for state, illegal for fed. if the fed was legal for weed. then the price of weed would tremendisly go down. which would suck for people kicking it off

bighomey said:

fuck that. ilove how it is now. legal for state, illegal for fed. if the fed was legal for weed. then the price of weed would tremendisly go down. which would suck for people kicking it off

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I don't think it would change a the price whole lot, maybe on a short term basis it might go down a bit while the initial shake up happens but long term prices will get back to pretty close to where we are at now, the big difference that will come into play is those that part of the food chain will now have smaller profit margins. Look your are gonna have a lot of smaller locations that won't be able to compete with the more established locations (dispensaries will probably also have to compete with liquor stores and the likes of 7/11's and such) it'll be the market that dictates the price and the taxes that would have to be paid to both the state and feds would make up for the difference in price that could be saved. Basically the guys selling will make a smaller % of profit and what they have lost in this will just go to the taxes paid.

This is like booze and tobacco in the fact that when legalized it will have a 'sin' tax placed on it. These 'sin' taxes are #1 absorbingly high and #2 very easy to pass. The public sees sin taxes as just a cost of sinning so to speak and every time they are on the ballot they seem to pass pretty easy.

Prices WILL Go Up. No Matter What. And The Quality WILL Go Down.

As much as i want it to pass... i have my doubts... someones powerful enough to not let it happen... but if it does... hopefully other states will follow

Too bad it wont happen.

I hold hope for this.. last two states to try this was Nevada and Alaska- both just missed passing it by less then 10%. If any state has the balls to do this first it's Cali.. however if it is passed, for sure the DEA will be there even MORE trumping states rights...

Not exactly. If it were legalized, i think the prices would have to go down, b/c everyone would start growing there own....And its not like millions of ppl dont already

were do i sign this petition? i can get well over 50 people, i'm sure it will exceed the limit, everyone and their granny smoke nowa days.

Deadline was yesterday 5/Sept./2008. unfortunately the guy who did the petition never came through. fucking asshole. anyway someone needs to do what he did and just use his as an outline and actually go through with it this time. Maybe team up with norml or MPP. its only 200 dollars. hell i would front the money if i lived there.

don't know that u really want CA to pass something like this just yet, if I'm not mistaken one reason 215 and many other similar laws have held has something to do with the fact that these laws do notlegalize, in direct conflict with fed law. If I remember correctly if it was reschedulaled then legalization laws could hold up. Can't remember exactly what I read, but it was something like that, I think the big Org's would have stepped up and helped out on this if it could have withstood the court battles that would follow.

its on its way i mean alcahol is legal but pot isnt who the fuck thought of that its just nuts i can buy something that causes me to crash into someone killing them but i cant buy something that causes me to crash on your couch killing my whole day

Here is a link that does explain a little of what I was trying to say ASA*:*The Clash Between Federal Drug Law and California's "Medical Marijuana" Law

CA (and the other 13 states) law doesn't LEGALIZE marijuana it DECRIMINALIZES it, I think this is the KEY to most MMJ laws and how they are holding up to Federal supremacy clauses (while in our case this is a pain, overall the supremacy clause is not a bad thing) and to court battles trying to remove them from states law books.

Once enough states pass MMJ laws, the Feds will have to change policy and reschedule MJ. Once done this will

#1 allow states to enforce their laws and protect their citizens from Federal prosecution

#2 open up the ability for more research to be done and funded on MJ

#3 open up intelligent debate on the subject of legalization; well, at least ALLOW for the discussion in Congress and the Senate


I know Washington has an initiative that is going to challenge this by legalizing and regulation similar to how booze is regulated and distributed, but I don't know how it will hold up even if it passes. Maybe it's not intended so much be a law that is enacted but more used to challenge the feds in court over state rights? Remember, until the controlled substances act was passed, the states regulated drug issues and they still regulate medical practitioners so why can't they regulate the medicines these practitioners recommend?

If you live in California and support legalizing marijuana, YOU can make it happen: Tell your state representatives to support California Assembly Bill 390. It's easy. Visit yes390.org

I will sell my business and move from the Chi to southern Cali sticks and buy acres and pay whatever it costs to legally grow every strain I want to OUTDOORS and indoors on those acres and breed with lots of phenos grown out to full maturity to choose from, I don't give a d@mn how many others do likewise.

All Cali residents on this board are required by code to have everyone they know sign this, and nag everyone else until they budge.

The revenue it generated would be the first and most important domino, and more importantly, the historical claim of the modern western world, to starting the movement to legalize worldwide and spawn the largest "new" industry since computer software and substrate.

Clothes, paper, medicine, fuel, environmental cleanup, etc/......it all would be rightfully started by:

THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

Private industry will do so much work breeding for fiber content, energy coefficient for fuels, due to larger immediate market than for any other uses of the plant. They will need to stock up on seed from all different hemp and ruderalis variety/similar other varieties,
SO, SEEDBANKS, you must stock up on seeds of all kinds, not just medicinal seeds bred for flowers and resin content. STOCK UP NOW. even on cannabis phenos you can figure no cureent use for at all.

Please keep everyone posted on any updates regarding timber, cotton, pharmeceutical, and petroleum industry either allocating their own dollars towards research or allocating dollars towards lobbying in opposition.

Peace & blessings to all.