Calexit gets go-ahead to start collecting sigs (Foxnews)

vostok

Well-Known Member

'Calexit is left - we are progressive, and that's why we don't like Trump.' Marcus Ruiz Evans
co-founder of Yes California


Advocates who want California to secede from the rest of the United States

were given the green light Monday to begin collecting signatures for their initiative.

California’s Secretary of State Alex Padilla announced the ballot proposal had been cleared.

The latest measure would ask voters in 2020 to decide whether to open up a secession discussion.

If passed, a second election would be held a year later asking voters

to affirm the decision and become an independent country.

Advocates have until mid-October to gather 365,880 signatures of registered voters to get it on the ballot.

Marcus Ruiz Evans and Louis J. Marinelli, co-founders of the group Yes California,

said the second vote would show that Californians are serious about secession and

would strengthen the case for foreign governments to recognize the state’s independence.

“We realize it may seem like a long time to wait,” Marinelli told The Times of San Diego.

“But we need time to have a serious dialogue with the people of California about why they should

support the independence referendum by voting yes.

The voters need to make an informed decision when they go to the polls

to determine California’s political future.”

Evans told CNBC that while his group is progressive, they do embrace some conservative ideals.

"Calexit is left — we are progressive, and that's why we don't like Trump," Evans

said. "But there are some very hardcore Republican concepts to Calexit,

including the group saying don't waste our tax money."

Evans says his group's membership has grown four times its size since President Trump took office.

There are about 44,000 current members.

There have been multiple efforts in the past for California to break away from the rest of America.

They have either been withdrawn or failed to gather the signatures required to advance.

As the Yes California group gears up, another initiative to break up California

into three separate states is also taking shape. That plan, backed by Silicon Valley billionaire Tim Draper,

would create a northern California state with San Francisco at its core,

another state near Los Angeles

and a third that covers the Central Valley as well as San Diego.

And if that were not enough, there’s yet another proposal in play known as “New California

that would cut out rural counties and make them into individual states.

The founders of New California describe the rest of California as “ungovernable.”

“The current state of California has become governed by a tyranny,” the group declared in an online statement.

(http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/24/calexit-gets-go-ahead-to-start-collecting-signatures.html)
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
The secession of California would provoke another civil war.

War on American soil might be what it takes to get Americans thinking rationally again.

We've had basically a century of suffering no consequences for extorting, overthrowing and attacking other countries militarily. It has to come to an end eventually and when it does it will be ugly.

America is absolutely not what we are told it is.
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
The secession of California would provoke another civil war.

War on American soil might be what it takes to get Americans thinking rationally again.

We've had basically a century of suffering no consequences for extorting, overthrowing and attacking other countries militarily. It has to come to an end eventually and when it does it will be ugly.

America is absolutely not what we are told it is.
Too stupid stopped reading, nothing makes for more rationale thinking than a war?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member

'Calexit is left - we are progressive, and that's why we don't like Trump.' Marcus Ruiz Evans
co-founder of Yes California


Advocates who want California to secede from the rest of the United States

were given the green light Monday to begin collecting signatures for their initiative.

California’s Secretary of State Alex Padilla announced the ballot proposal had been cleared.

The latest measure would ask voters in 2020 to decide whether to open up a secession discussion.

If passed, a second election would be held a year later asking voters

to affirm the decision and become an independent country.

Advocates have until mid-October to gather 365,880 signatures of registered voters to get it on the ballot.

Marcus Ruiz Evans and Louis J. Marinelli, co-founders of the group Yes California,

said the second vote would show that Californians are serious about secession and

would strengthen the case for foreign governments to recognize the state’s independence.

“We realize it may seem like a long time to wait,” Marinelli told The Times of San Diego.

“But we need time to have a serious dialogue with the people of California about why they should

support the independence referendum by voting yes.

The voters need to make an informed decision when they go to the polls

to determine California’s political future.”

Evans told CNBC that while his group is progressive, they do embrace some conservative ideals.

"Calexit is left — we are progressive, and that's why we don't like Trump," Evans

said. "But there are some very hardcore Republican concepts to Calexit,

including the group saying don't waste our tax money."

Evans says his group's membership has grown four times its size since President Trump took office.

There are about 44,000 current members.

There have been multiple efforts in the past for California to break away from the rest of America.

They have either been withdrawn or failed to gather the signatures required to advance.

As the Yes California group gears up, another initiative to break up California

into three separate states is also taking shape. That plan, backed by Silicon Valley billionaire Tim Draper,

would create a northern California state with San Francisco at its core,

another state near Los Angeles

and a third that covers the Central Valley as well as San Diego.

And if that were not enough, there’s yet another proposal in play known as “New California

that would cut out rural counties and make them into individual states.

The founders of New California describe the rest of California as “ungovernable.”

“The current state of California has become governed by a tyranny,” the group declared in an online statement.

(http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/24/calexit-gets-go-ahead-to-start-collecting-signatures.html)
Can you let St. Petersburg knows they can put a hold on the EXIT disrupt?

It’s been figured out already and unless you’ve been to Cali you’re wasting Puties time..try TEXIT..they’re more gullible.

Oprah needs to buy FOX and blow it the fvck up already.
 
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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
The secession of California would provoke another civil war.

War on American soil might be what it takes to get Americans thinking rationally again.

We've had basically a century of suffering no consequences for extorting, overthrowing and attacking other countries militarily. It has to come to an end eventually and when it does it will be ugly.

America is absolutely not what we are told it is.
I put our general well-being close to 1880-90s era. Citizens living on the streets, no healthcare, questionable shifting the cost of everything onto the employee so the rich get richer to equate to no standard livable wages.

Except in those days they had lunatic asylums to sweep everyone into.

Does anyone here hold a CPA? @Bugeye? I’ve got a question and need accountant to PM me.
 
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squarepush3r

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This will fail pretty hard once they realize federal funding will be cut for programs like MediCare etc. Remember last year when Cali was trying to setup the "Universal health Care" program for the state, and they ran the numbers and it would be beyond impossible?

Also, even if they did secede, there is no California army navy or air force, so they could easily be taken over again by force.
 

SneekyNinja

Well-Known Member
I put our general well-being close to 1880-90s era. Citizens living on the streets, no healthcare, questionable shifting the cost of everything onto the employee so the rich get richer to equate to no standard livable wages.

Except in those days they had lunatic asylums to sweep everyone into.

Does anyone here hold a CPA? @Bugeye? I’ve got a question and need accountant to PM me.
This is one of the stupidest posts I've every read in my life.

There has never in the history of mankind been a more prosperous time for people.

You're always so fucking confused.

Yes, wealth inequality is out of control but the poorest members of our society cannot even be compared to those of Africa, India, Mexico, Middle East, South America, etc where people actually regularly starve and live in houses made from salvaged materials. People still shit in the fucking street in many of the aforementioned places.

The poorest in our society are actually statistically the fattest too.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
This is one of the stupidest posts I've every read in my life.

There has never in the history of mankind been a more prosperous time for people.

You're always so fucking confused.

Yes, wealth inequality is out of control but the poorest members of our society cannot even be compared to those of Africa, India, Mexico, Middle East, South America, etc where people actually regularly starve and live in houses made from salvaged materials. People still shit in the fucking street in many of the aforementioned places.

The poorest in our society are actually statistically the fattest too.
https://hungerandhealth.feedingamerica.org/understand-food-insecurity/

Having trouble thinking outside your bubble again, I see.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Lol.

Every single person in this country today has regular access to food...we've massive obesity rates with the majority occurring amongst the poor.

And if they don't have food, it's because the blew their welfare on stupid shit.
Lol

The 'gluttony of ignorance' eh, Stinkydigit? Keep feasting.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Lol.

Every single person in this country today has regular access to food...we've massive obesity rates with the majority occurring amongst the poor.

And if they don't have food, it's because the blew their welfare on stupid shit.
We also have ACCESS to healthcare..but that and a buck five will get you ACCESS to a refill coffee at 7-Eleven need to use same cup or FULL price.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Are you trying to tell me that people in the 1890's had a higher quality of life than now, like your retarded counterpart did?
Let me tell you what was legal back then..at least you had happiness in gutter life.

And Coca Cola had REAL coke!

They just trying to keep the black man down.
 
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