Cal-Mag ?

Ghost of Davy Jones

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When should i add cal-Mag to plants? I Heard some plants need it around week 4. Is it best to wait and see if it shows signs of problems or should I add it as a preventative measure?

Any thoughts?
 

chemphlegm

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I used calmag (1/2 strength) once this year in half a dozen plants, because someone here said my plants needed it. all six plants failed and did not finish properly while their twins flourished without the addition. I guess my plants didnt need cal mag after all.
I'll give you my bottle if you're in MI
 

Ghost of Davy Jones

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I used calmag (1/2 strength) once this year in half a dozen plants, because someone here said my plants needed it. all six plants failed and did not finish properly while their twins flourished without the addition. I guess my plants didnt need cal mag after all.
I'll give you my bottle if you're in MI
Sorry for your loss. Thanks for the warning. sounds like i should wait.
 

chemphlegm

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Sorry for your loss. Thanks for the warning. sounds like i should wait.
thank you, it was negligible though half dozen others were harvested a few days later. no dry spells here for many years.
I'd say feed when your plant needs it rather than when you want to.
there are full service feeding options too, the best option imo, feed organically, skip the bullshit forum additives.
 

Ghost of Davy Jones

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thank you, it was negligible though half dozen others were harvested a few days later. no dry spells here for many years.
I'd say feed when your plant needs it rather than when you want to.
there are full service feeding options too, the best option imo, feed organically, skip the bullshit forum additives.
Yeah I ordered some fox farm neuts because thats what everybody seems to talk about.
 

whitebb2727

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I used calmag (1/2 strength) once this year in half a dozen plants, because someone here said my plants needed it. all six plants failed and did not finish properly while their twins flourished without the addition. I guess my plants didnt need cal mag after all.
I'll give you my bottle if you're in MI
I doubt a dose half strength harmed your plants like that.

If anything it should have helped. Mag helps with the uptake of N.

When should i add cal-Mag to plants? I Heard some plants need it around week 4. Is it best to wait and see if it shows signs of problems or should I add it as a preventative measure?

Any thoughts?
I generally don't worry about it unless the plant shows signs of needing it especially in soil.

The exception would be if using distilled or ro water as they are void of minerals.

Do you suspect your plants need some cal mag?


When I do use it I use it at 1/4 strength.
 
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Ghost of Davy Jones

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I doubt a dose half strength harmed your ants like that.

If anything it should have helped. Mag helps with the uptake of N.


I generally don't worry about it unless the plant shows signs of needing it especially in soil.

The exception would be if using distilled or ro water as they are void of minerals.

Do you suspect your plants need some cal mag?


When I do use it I use it at 1/4 strength.
Im not worried yet but my last grow had issues so i bought some cal-mag to be pro active this time.
 

chemphlegm

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I doubt a dose half strength harmed your ants like that.

If anything it should have helped. Mag helps with the uptake of N.


I generally don't worry about it unless the plant shows signs of needing it especially in soil.

The exception would be if using distilled or ro water as they are void of minerals.

Do you suspect your plants need some cal mag?


When I do use it I use it at 1/4 strength.

I dont doubt it one bit. I never used calmag in ten years. I have spring water, my ferts have calcium and my soil is well fed.
I run the same side by side full time. I chose six of 12 of the same copies to add cal mag to, they all stalled, all lost their nose and acted just like I overfed/burned them. they stayed alive never really finished like their copies did , right next to them. I scrapped all six, it was certainly the addition of calmag causing the issue. I've since cycled the more of the same with perfect results, as I always have, before cal mag -fuck cal mag. It wont help shit unless the plant was not being fed properly in the first place. too much of anything is not good. perhaps I grow in a sweet spot, found my max and tipped the hat? I dunno
 

budman111

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I used calmag (1/2 strength) once this year in half a dozen plants, because someone here said my plants needed it. all six plants failed and did not finish properly while their twins flourished without the addition. I guess my plants didnt need cal mag after all.
I'll give you my bottle if you're in MI
That sounds like dodgy calmag!
 

chemphlegm

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I run RO water, so I add cal-mag, starting whenever the roots start to look legit... plant size I dont care about, age I dont care about, but root mass.... thats the decider.
makes sense w ro water. I have well water with plenty of calcium, fertilizer with added calcium too. adding even more upset my system
 

Dr. Who

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In soil? Don't "need" Ca/Mg. And use RO? Still don't "need".....(If the soil was built properly)

In Coco? NEED a Ca/Mg!
in hydro, any style and use RO = NEED a Ca/Mg!

Some Ca is based in Ca Nitrate. Adds more N and doesn't "buffer" well. Plant availability is great.
Some Ca is based in Ca Carbonate. Buffers very well, has good plant availability. Best choice for hydro applications.
 

whitebb2727

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I dont doubt it one bit. I never used calmag in ten years. I have spring water, my ferts have calcium and my soil is well fed.
I run the same side by side full time. I chose six of 12 of the same copies to add cal mag to, they all stalled, all lost their nose and acted just like I overfed/burned them. they stayed alive never really finished like their copies did , right next to them. I scrapped all six, it was certainly the addition of calmag causing the issue. I've since cycled the more of the same with perfect results, as I always have, before cal mag -fuck cal mag. It wont help shit unless the plant was not being fed properly in the first place. too much of anything is not good. perhaps I grow in a sweet spot, found my max and tipped the hat? I dunno
Well yea. If your certs had calcium already then the addition of more could cause problems.

Generally though a half dose won't hurt them.
 

chemphlegm

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In soil? Don't "need" Ca/Mg. And use RO? Still don't "need".....(If the soil was built properly)

In Coco? NEED a Ca/Mg!
in hydro, any style and use RO = NEED a Ca/Mg!

Some Ca is based in Ca Nitrate. Adds more N and doesn't "buffer" well. Plant availability is great.
Some Ca is based in Ca Carbonate. Buffers very well, has good plant availability. Best choice for hydro applications.

good info !
 

Flagg420

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makes sense w ro water. I have well water with plenty of calcium, fertilizer with added calcium too. adding even more upset my system
Yea @ 250-300ppm base from the tap, and no chlorine, ur water is prolly better than what I cobble together with my store bought solutions, lol.

I'd rock that water with some compost and bird/bat poo, and try to roll a full on organic run.... just cuz......

I got that shitty city water :(
 

chemphlegm

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Yea @ 250-300ppm base from the tap, and no chlorine, ur water is prolly better than what I cobble together with my store bought solutions, lol.

I'd rock that water with some compost and bird/bat poo, and try to roll a full on organic run.... just cuz......

I got that shitty city water :(
right on! I do, with free range rabbit shit, chicken shit, llama shit, organic right down to the watering hoses
 

xtsho

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In soil? Don't "need" Ca/Mg. And use RO? Still don't "need".....(If the soil was built properly)

In Coco? NEED a Ca/Mg!
in hydro, any style and use RO = NEED a Ca/Mg!

Some Ca is based in Ca Nitrate. Adds more N and doesn't "buffer" well. Plant availability is great.
Some Ca is based in Ca Carbonate. Buffers very well, has good plant availability. Best choice for hydro applications.
I completely agree that soil grows should never need calmag as long as the soil is good.
I didn't know Ca Carbonate buffered better than Ca Nitrate. I grow in coco without adding calmag and never experience any deficiencies. I am using Ca Nitrate for the primary nitrogen source and it is used throughout the entire grow. Since Ca Nitrate has great plant availability that is probably the reason I don't have any issues. That and I keep it as simple as possible.
 
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