Cal-mag VS Epsom Salts?

Have a magnesium deficiency what's going to cure it faster Cal-Mag or Epsom Salts?

Epsom salts= magnesium sulphate,it's what you need.

AZgreenthumb said:

Have a magnesium deficiency what's going to cure it faster Cal-Mag or Epsom Salts?

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What plant food are you using right now and how much of it are you using when you feed?

Homebrewer. Long time lurker. checked everywhere for a way to pm you and cant seem to find it! Growing some serious ak-47 and you seem to be very knowledgeable in the strain, had a few questions. If you have the time it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Sorry to OP.

AZgreenthumb said:

Have a magnesium deficiency what's going to cure it faster Cal-Mag or Epsom Salts?

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soil or hydro?
If it's soil go with BSM it's got all that and much more.

kiwiseed45 said:

Homebrewer. Long time lurker. checked everywhere for a way to pm you and cant seem to find it! Growing some serious ak-47 and you seem to be very knowledgeable in the strain, had a few questions. If you have the time it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Sorry to OP.

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I think you need 50 posts to PM.

homebrewer said:

What plant food are you using right now and how much of it are you using when you feed?

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Right now for veg I'm using a gueno tea mexican bat gueno Peruvian seabird guano EWC castings molasses and liquid karma

AZgreenthumb said:

Right now for veg I'm using a gueno tea mexican bat gueno Peruvian seabird guano EWC castings molasses and liquid karma

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Then epsom salt, as flash stated, is your fix.

homebrewer said:

Then epsom salt, as flash stated, is your fix.

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Thanks home brew I just started the Epsom salts yesterday when should I see improvement?

AZgreenthumb said:

Right now for veg I'm using a gueno tea mexican bat gueno Peruvian seabird guano EWC castings molasses and liquid karma

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I highly doubt it's a mag def then.
liquid karma has Epsom in it, and BSM does also.
I'd be REALLY careful here.....

can you post pics?? EVERYONE and their mother thinks they have Cal-mag deficiency and 9/10 its not at all that.. I RARELY RARELY EVER see anyone having deficiencies but cal mag deficiency is even less... not doubting what you may know but i mean better safe than sorry

homebrewer said:

Then epsom salt, as flash stated, is your fix.

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Uhhh, ok.
SO what about the Epsom that is already in his liquid karma?
or the magnesium that's already in the molasses?

greasemonkeymann said:

I highly doubt it's a mag def then.
liquid karma has Epsom in it, and BSM does also.
I'd be REALLY careful here.....

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he's right gonna say the same thing about liquid karma it carries calcium and magnesium.. but so does seabird guano in trace amounts.

phil k said:

can you post pics?? EVERYONE and their mother thinks they have Cal-mag deficiency and 9/10 its not at all that.. I RARELY RARELY EVER see anyone having deficiencies but cal mag deficiency is even less... not doubting what you may know but i mean better safe than sorry

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thank you, thank you, THANK you. What I have been preaching...

greasemonkeymann said:

thank you, thank you, THANK you. What I have been preaching...

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yeah try to tell people that.. lol... thats why i used to stay away from boards... no other answers but DEFICIENCY!!!! thats it... lol.. no one wants to diagnose the issue..

phil k said:

yeah try to tell people that.. lol... thats why i used to stay away from boards... no other answers but DEFICIENCY!!!! thats it... lol.. no one wants to diagnose the issue..

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so true...
it's always ph or cal/mag...
ironically I have seen about every other problem, beside those two.
more often than not it's "too much"
water, nutrients, attention, ph adjusting, etc,etc.

likke i said if i talk to 100 gr

greasemonkeymann said:

so true...
it's always ph or cal/mag...
ironically I have seen about every other problem, beside those two.
more often than not it's "too much"
water, nutrients, attention, ph adjusting, etc,etc.

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yep always those main things ESPECIALLY with chemical growers.. overwater.. ph is off... over feeding and i see low oxygen issues a lot in grows.. people mistake that shit for deficiency all the time. but honestly thats one reason why i just started coming back to boards i get so many people i sell soil to that gets bad advice off boards... it ERKS me..

to me its either know what your talking about... try to help them properly or don't chime in.. cause one bad advice post can roaly screw someones grow... thats why i wanna see pics of his grow so he doesn't start shoving cal-mag down the plants throat!

phil k said:

can you post pics?? EVERYONE and their mother thinks they have Cal-mag deficiency and 9/10 its not at all that.. I RARELY RARELY EVER see anyone having deficiencies but cal mag deficiency is even less... not doubting what you may know but i mean better safe than sorry

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Here are pics yellowing between the veins I compared it to other photos of magnesium deficiency online and they matched I have been able to rule out ph and environmental stress.

greasemonkeymann said:

Uhhh, ok.
SO what about the Epsom that is already in his liquid karma?
or the magnesium that's already in the molasses?

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According to the Guaranteed Analysis, liquid karma contains no magnesium or sulfur. Molasses is not a potent contributor of mineral salts as it's used to feed the microbes.

Guaranteed Analysis:

• Total Nitrogen (N): 0.1%, 0.1% Water Soluble Nitrogen
• Available Phosphate (P2O5): 0.1%
• Soluble Potash (K20): 0.5%

ALSO CONTAINS NON-PLAND FOOD INGREDIENT:

• 0.5% Humic Acid derived from Leonardite
• 0.01% Yucca extract

Derived from: Kelp seaweed extract.