Steele_GreenMan
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Let's all have a dab and get back on track 
built up hash in oil rig. smoke it?
- Thread starter Will Ferrell
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crazyhazey
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i shit you not, look it up on youtube, kids blasting a zip and getting like 20 grams of some disgusting looking wax, its due to the moisture and butane residual being trapped.
and no, he didnt say he does but when i said you shouldnt smoke unpurged or wet claim he said the op should just smoke it because if he would himself hed like it, and hed be fine, which most of us know isnt true, at least i hope so.
his shit could be bomb, who knows, i did sorta go on a rant but thats because he said "just smoke it" and said "he doesnt care", just because you dont give a shit about your own health doesnt mean you should just say fuck it and tell someone else they should go ahead an jump off a bridge with you, after all, they'll be fine, they'll like it. lol
crazyhazey
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i second that, im gonna smoke some weed and watch 30 rock lol.Let's all have a dab and get back on track
Will Ferrell
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when i had first blast into the pyrex dish, it was all a nice bright color. But after letting it purge for four days, it had gotten noticeably darker. Now i keep it in a rubber container i got at the head shop and it looks and feels more like black sap rather than shatter which was what i was going for haha. But if i were to flatten it out, the color gets alot lighter of course and is see through. And it seems to be pretty bad ass as far as getting me high. Im just kind of a hypochondriac, especially when it comes to my lungs, and am just being over worried i guess. Ive had my lung collapse several times long ago from a car wreck, and then leading up to staff infection, they had to cut off a chunk of one of my lungs cause they said there was a cyst the size of a fist. So, i try my best to be cautious...Im thinking based on what yall have said so far, i will try to go the edible route, and probably just give them away. Perfect holiday gift lol
crazyhazey
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we all went through that stage, i smoked unpurged oil for like 6 months before i realized it wasnt doing my lungs a favor, then i began using a handpump, which was slightly better, but i always seemed to have a case of bronchitis until a year later a close friend got a good cfm pump and we started gettin our shit together lol. and id stay away from storing in rubber, i feel like ive tasted rubber in a dab before because of the leftover solvent in oil, some of the cheaper silicone can even ruin well purged oil from what ive seen.
and shit that sounds rough man! hope it isnt too much of an inconvenience to deal with, id probably try to only eat edibles all together but im one of the most over cautious people ever lol, im sure youve asked your doctor the risks and all that though. and smoking weed is supposed to be healthy for your lungs from what ive heard, specifically vaporizing, i forget exactly how but it seems weed (if consumed the right way) is always beneficial, even more so when youre getting all the active and inactive cannabinoids rather than destroying 90% of them with combustion. the whole edible thing is probably your best bet, smoking unpurged oil apparently can give some people anxiety from what ive seen(and if theres a lot in the oil, it might be a good idea to let it sit in your vac for a day or two), some kids can have panic attacks from the excess butane, some people even say it suffocates the brain as well but i havent seen the research for this(it may have been based on people who actually inhale butane along if im not mistaken), i do know its not going to do your lungs a favor for sure though.
oh and sorry for thread jackin, shit got a little outta hand there. lol
Twitch
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stop talking..... just about everything you have said is retarded and the fuckerey level is beyond comprehension. and its 29.92 not 30 and that is at sea level
Twitch
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My reclaim has been winterized for 48 hours in -50 degree deepfreezer. Before then it was extracted the Twitch way and then vac purged to perfection, then it is decarbed when it hits the nail that is anywhere form 500 to 700 degrees, then I guess you could say it is water filtered because I pull it through my rig. It is some of the cleanest stuff you can make and it taste good actually kinda sweet me and the wife dab it for night time or it goes into edibles.
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crazyhazey
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please elaborate what parts were incorrect id be glad to be informed. if im not mistaken my main point was butane residual and water vapor arent good for the lungs, but hey i could be wrong, maybe those people who got collapsed lungs just so happened to smoke unpurged oil.
and does .08 really make that much of a difference? lol
eh, i should rephrase. most of the things i said ive read, from people with a good amount of knowledge in chemistry who have been making oil for about 3 years now, people who get their shit lab tested and all that jazz. i admit, a few things i said were more or less things ive seen repeated, if im not mistaken i didnt say these were fact, just a repeated bit of information ive heard from multiple reliable people in the hash game, misinformation does tend to spread like wildfire though so please feel free to correct me, acting like a pompous ass gets us nowhere.
and if i come off as a dick i apologize, when someone suggest something that seems like an obvious bad idea then continues to say he doesnt care might piss me off a bit, knowing the op has lung problems now too its all the more fucked up to advocate someone putting their health in jeopardy.
and this guys oil seems to be not purged to "perfection" or the "twitch way" lol so i dont see how this factors in, not to mention ive seen claim that still had butane residual, why i expect darker claim isnt fully purged, this is an assumption though so dont say i said its fact.
i didnt say you shouldnt smoke claim, i said most people dont, probably because it goes better in edibles. doesnt really get me that high either.
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Twitch
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it is water that makes it jump like that and your an idiot if you think the steam will pass through a water filter.....
it is this soap box stand you took on the possibility of residual butane in reclaim and that water vapors being harmful and transferring into your lungs in a way that would collapse it....
crazyhazey
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im pretty sure its tane that makes it jump, it could be both though, no need to act like a child and call people idiots, name callin only makes you look less educated
and im pretty sure steam could still pass through along with the smoke, he didnt say what hed smoke it out of either, regardless this is a smaller problem than the butane residue as i mentioned.
and what else did i say that wasnt true, that was one thing...
and no, it wasnt a soap box stand if you look at the color of that claim, its pretty apparent thats not clean, he even confirmed it, im not saying water vapor would cause a collapsed lung, its not good for them but its the butane residual that causes a collapsed lung, it probably wouldn't help though.
neither would smoking wax(like in your avatar) according to people who have had collapsed lungs, im sure youre gonna say im bullshittin like the last posts but wax is a product of agitation, water and/or butane residual being trapped which obviously isnt good.
crazyhazey
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hahahahaha okay dude, sorry i didnt specify your vac should go up to 29.92(because that .08 makes all the difference
) at sea level or whatever the fuck. i should have said it should be "purged to perfection" or the "twitch way" right? i dont know shit obviously. way to bitch out after sayin im bullshittin, you should think before you call someone out.
crazyhazey
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you didnt really make an argument in the first place, you just said i didnt know shit then didnt really have anything to back it up, you said its only water that jumps(which i have a lot of trouble believing, since oil pops when theres still tane residual, after all it is gas, and thats bound to send some oil off the nail) and i didnt even say it was only tane that did this, i said if you smoke unpurged oil(which i find usually has moisture as well) it jumps off the nail, made the assumption that i said water vapor causes a collapsed lung when anybody who knows anything would know i meant from the butane residual, said i made a "soap box stand" about the ops claim being from unpurged oil when it seems pretty obvious from the picture and was even confirmed, you also assumed i said to purge at -30, i said his vac should be able to go up to -30, not to purge at -30, i personally vac at -29, not because thc boils off(and ive never experienced this, though if i ever make oil the chamber doesnt exceed 100-110 degrees) but for the sake of not losing terps.
but yeah, thats basically all you said was wrong about what i said, when your orginal statement was just about everything i said was "retarded and the fuckerey level is beyond comprehension". so i ask again, please elaborate what was bullshit, it seems like you dont really have anything to say.
but yeah, thats basically all you said was wrong about what i said, when your orginal statement was just about everything i said was "retarded and the fuckerey level is beyond comprehension". so i ask again, please elaborate what was bullshit, it seems like you dont really have anything to say.
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Twitch
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1 water in his reclaim not butane
2 the residual butane that is not in his reclaim
3 water vapors being harmful
4 the small amount of water vapors that are boiling off actually making it through the water filter in his rig
5 the possibility of collapsing a lung with water vapor
crazyhazey
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1 obviously both since its in a rig with water and that claim is dark and gross looking so idk how you deny it being from dirty oil, for the third time the op confirmed the oil wasnt purged well, and i never denied it being wet
2 claim can still have tane residual, ive seen it before, it doesnt just disappear when it hits the nail youre also inhaling that too
3 an excess is harmful, it makes it harder to breathe, this is common knowledge
4 if the water is that heated it may not completely cool down from being in gas form and carry along with the smoke, neither did he say he was smoking the claim it out of a rig
5 i didnt say that, youre making that assumption because i said it along with the fact that butane residual causes collapsed lungs, i grouped them in a sentence because theyre both not good for the lungs, not because they both contribute to a collapsed lung
yeah tell that to the people who got lung transplants because they whipped the shit out of their oil,overheated it, and didnt purge whatsoever, unrefined butane also contributes if im not mistaken.
but from your avatar i can deduce that you probably smoke wax, so being in denial wasnt unexpected.
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