Eharmony420
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i so tired of lugging the bubbler forn the shower where i flower to the closet where they sleep, been dong that a month almost, lol, nver bored at least, finally a tent, i was hoping 8 plants at least
Build your own-DWC Bubbleponics,Drip System Cheap
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Eharmony420
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i wat at rite aid the other day and i saw 10 dollar water fountains. ive seen inside them before and they have a minature water pump that u can easily modify to pump all the water out of yur bubbler without having to pick up the whole damn thing and then just pore yur fresh water back in. getting 2 big a bubbler i wufd not be able to empty it was my concern.
pump it out for 10 bucks
HiGHLiFE28
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do me a favor and rep me again but first hit the plus sign so i get positive rep lol, everyone gives me rep but forgets to hit the plus sign first so its pointless, well 400 w HID, can cover 6 plants up and going healthy into flower if your going to grow them all fully do six. If your going to clone and stuff you will have more room to put clones in a bubbler system. If their not fem seeds make 8 or more sites so that when you figure out which how many are males you will have more seeds going to increase odds becuz u will have to cut down males if you dont want seeds and want more bud.
Dirtbmw20
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Highlife, I have a few questions for you if you would be so kind to answer.
FIRST, the self built system you have, is nothing but a rubbermaid (or roughneck in your case) tub with the holes cut in the toip for the baskets, and air pump going to a flat disc air stone for misiting and that's it ???? It's THAT simple ??? How high do you have to keep the water level in the tub, is there a minimum or maximum level it has to be kept at ??
SECOND, concerning the +reps you are talking about. When I click on the scale up top to give a rep it only asks me to approve or disapprove, there is nowhere for me to give +++'s
And LAST, concerning water changes and cleaning the totes, if they are so inexspensive then wouldn't it be easier to just go buy another rubbermaid tub and have a spare to change over to when doing a water change, that way you wouldn't have to hang the plants over the tub (or toilet,lol) and you would always have an extra, clean resovoir to put in place. You would literally take the top off one and put right down onto the new one already cleaned and filled with new water, then just clean the dirty one and have it ready for the next change. It's just a thought and/or suggestion, that's all.
FIRST, the self built system you have, is nothing but a rubbermaid (or roughneck in your case) tub with the holes cut in the toip for the baskets, and air pump going to a flat disc air stone for misiting and that's it ???? It's THAT simple ??? How high do you have to keep the water level in the tub, is there a minimum or maximum level it has to be kept at ??
SECOND, concerning the +reps you are talking about. When I click on the scale up top to give a rep it only asks me to approve or disapprove, there is nowhere for me to give +++'s
And LAST, concerning water changes and cleaning the totes, if they are so inexspensive then wouldn't it be easier to just go buy another rubbermaid tub and have a spare to change over to when doing a water change, that way you wouldn't have to hang the plants over the tub (or toilet,lol) and you would always have an extra, clean resovoir to put in place. You would literally take the top off one and put right down onto the new one already cleaned and filled with new water, then just clean the dirty one and have it ready for the next change. It's just a thought and/or suggestion, that's all.
Eharmony420
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good point to toke over. but then again imagine lol yourself with all that water sloshing around as yu try and lift it. thats 10 gals all over yurself. true it aint that hard but i dreaming of the least work, like a break after having to lug my 5 gallon netween the flower room and the sleep room, my tents are on the way i thinking of a 10 gal or so like mr hilefes there then just throwing in a 10 dollar fountain pump form rite aid the same price as another rubbermaid tub and using that for 2 week reservoir changes. i always think it funny to call the dwc a reservoir because simple it is, but thats why i love it
Dirtbmw20
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I wasn't thinking about lifting it Eharmony. In MY specific case, mine will be sitting directly on the carpet floor, if I choose to go this route, mine would just slide right out and the new one would just slide right in, no lifting required but that would be in MY specific case. It was just a thought, that's all.
HiGHLiFE28
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1.- To answer your first question, yes its this simple for a killer setup that grows monster plants fast. The airstone bubbles oxygen into the water allowing the roots to sit in water 24/7 without drowning because the pump delivers oxygen to the inner roots. The water level must remain at a minimum of touching the medium where your growing enough to hydrate it, water bubbling without touching the nets wont grow a thing. A max water level would be an inch below the top of the net, you dont want to flood your medium that suspending the roots too much.
2.- Yes, when i say plus i meant approve me, not disapprove lol
3.-Yes, my first tub was so disgusting i threw it away and also i wanted an improvement without wasting space, now i have just a tall enough tub for some massive roots. Just get a sponge when you clean your tub, its all part of the job folks!
HiGHLiFE28
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even if you have a pump the tub will be lined with crap to be cleaned. Get a drain to put on the bottom of your tub with a small hose. You dont need a pump this way because gravity is your pump. then once you drain it just wipe off the inside of the reservoir and refill. Or say fuck it and set an unopened trash bag in the bottom and pour the water in and put the top on, this only works for tubs that can be completely covered by the trash bags or you can use multiple bags to cover it, once the water is on top the bag wont move until you dump it. I am cleaning my Bubble system once these seeds germinate so ill post pics with a trash bag liner, yes everyone simple cheap shit can grow the dankest nugs ;0
HiGHLiFE28
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UPDATE-
Added another stone and a more powerful 2 output air pump for 20 bux at petsmart. So now two 5 inch airstones and an up to 30 gallon reservoir powerful pump power my bubbler ;0
Added another stone and a more powerful 2 output air pump for 20 bux at petsmart. So now two 5 inch airstones and an up to 30 gallon reservoir powerful pump power my bubbler ;0
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Dirtbmw20
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Excellent Highlife, thanks. Is the water level you have it at in the pics usually the water level you try and keep it at or needs to be kept at ?? Also, what is the timer in the pic for ? Do you run the pumps 24/7 or is that what the timer is for ? Or is the timer for lights or something entirely different ? Thank you again.
HiGHLiFE28
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The water level right now is what i usually use for just germinated and baby plants to ensure the sponge or Rapid Rooter Plug is continuously oxygenated and nutrient fed, once the roots grow a bit i will let the level vary just because i will fill it to this level then the plants will eat so much water and i wont refill it until it wont touch the bottom of the net anymore. I run my air pump off a timer during the same time as lighting hours, 18/6 now and 12/12 later.
Dirtbmw20
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Thanks HighLife, excellent advice for my noggin, +reps given.
Now..... a few more questions or suggestions. What kind of yield do you expect off each plant with the lighting you are using ?? What would be the MAX number of plants to flower in your bubbleponics system, 2 maybe 3 ??
My grow space is 3'Wide X 2'Deep X 7'Tall but I surely don't want any 7' plants in my closet. Given the room size, do you think a 400W HPS on top with either 2 or 4 CFL bulbs (like the ones you have pictured at the beginning of the thread) on each side would be good lighting ?? Or could I possibly go with a lower wattage HPS on the top like maybe a 250 or something like that for less power consumption ?? I will be vegging in my aerogarden and this will be my flower room only FOR RIGHT NOW, that may change later depending on how well the first grow goes.
Thanks again and would love to see some pics as you are progressing.
Now..... a few more questions or suggestions. What kind of yield do you expect off each plant with the lighting you are using ?? What would be the MAX number of plants to flower in your bubbleponics system, 2 maybe 3 ??
My grow space is 3'Wide X 2'Deep X 7'Tall but I surely don't want any 7' plants in my closet. Given the room size, do you think a 400W HPS on top with either 2 or 4 CFL bulbs (like the ones you have pictured at the beginning of the thread) on each side would be good lighting ?? Or could I possibly go with a lower wattage HPS on the top like maybe a 250 or something like that for less power consumption ?? I will be vegging in my aerogarden and this will be my flower room only FOR RIGHT NOW, that may change later depending on how well the first grow goes.
Thanks again and would love to see some pics as you are progressing.
HiGHLiFE28
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These will be transplanted from this reservoir into seperate 5 gallon bubblers running off of the same pump, because it isable to power for up to 30 gallons. What im growing is suppose to yield 500-650 grams- thats what it said on attitude- but since i am not a pro grower and only use 600whps and my frend might let me use his 1000w as well i expect 3-5 oz per plant and ill be happy, I never know what to expect especially since this is the first time using a HPS light and cooltube. I like to see you did the same thing i did, the aerogarden just doesnt give you enough weed for the 4 months you put into it, I am telling you it is worth it and will increase your yield to order the 400w HPS light hood and ballast from Hightech garden supply on ebay, with 400w HPS you can get almost ninety grams per plant. I will keep this thread alive ;0
Dirtbmw20
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Thanks Highlife. I am worried about the heat that the light will give off in such a small enclosed closet. Of course I know I will have to add in intake and exhause fan (or fans) but I have got to make this as stealthy as possible. I can run the fans exhaust up into my attic but I am worried about the noise of the fans. Still things I gotta work on. So you think a 400W light would be about perfect for that size room I have ??? They are pretty cheap, or at least reasonable.
How come you will transplant from your bubbleponics system to a seperate 5 gallon bucket ?? Howe come you won't just continue the grow in the bubbponics. I understand the 5 gallon are bubblepontics also since you said you are using the same air pump but why not just grow them in the blur tub you have ?? Thanks again.
How come you will transplant from your bubbleponics system to a seperate 5 gallon bucket ?? Howe come you won't just continue the grow in the bubbponics. I understand the 5 gallon are bubblepontics also since you said you are using the same air pump but why not just grow them in the blur tub you have ?? Thanks again.
HiGHLiFE28
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HTG threw in my 25 dollar 6 inch intake fan, they have ones for 110 but i dont wanna spend that much since ill be using another fan. 400 will be good and use those cfl's too. I want to seperate the roots and give them as much room as possible, the more room the roots have the bigger the plant can get. These are also many different strands and I will have mother plants so I am going to build a bubbler system similar to ebb and flows monster plant setup out of 5 gallon buckets and airstones. Check Post number 24 man
Eharmony420
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id love to see that, lol, thats my plan for my next grow,a 3x3ebband flo system or somekinda similiar deal. i using a 4 pot bubbler with only 2 plants left in this learnig grow as i call it. with a 4x4x6.5 tent coming and a 400 watt hid i wud love to see your designs. gotta work out a ebb and flo system or i just gonna use multiple bubblers. the roots for the 2 plant in my 5 gallon bubbler are huge, so far with 2 plants i dont seea problem but with 4 i wonder if the top of the plants wud make it also if the root mass wudnt take al the 5 gallon up, lol, and make me a root brick. 
Dirtbmw20
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Thanks Bandit, I have been looking for that post from mogie. +reps given. thanks again.
HiGHLiFE28
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Yeah exactly what Im sayin, huge roots= huge plant. Great thread
Dirtbmw20
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No doubt a great thread, it has helped me in my research tremendously.
Although I have seen another thead where it was made using an air stone AND also using a water pump for direct feeding, why would you do both, why not just one of the two methods. Seems like a hydro AND bubble unit combined would give off too much water. I dunno, I'm a newbie.
Thanks so much for your help and insight Highlife, you have helped me plenty over the last two days.