Buddha purple kush auto inbreeding question

So I'm new to this whole breeding process and I would like to start experimenting. Did some skimming around the forums looking for answers and found a lot but I'm confused with one part.

Say I took a feminized automatic buddha purple kush seed, used the colloidal silver method to have it produce pollen and then use that pollen on the same strain plant to inbreed for an f2, would this f2 lose quality or autoflowering traits?

Or would it be better if I just pick a different strain to pollinate, like for example.. auto buddha purple kush x auto purple cheese

The reason I'm asking is because I ordered a 5 pack of the buddha purple kush from the 'tude and I REALLY want to get into making some feminized seeds.. especially with that strain.

ma jigga said:

So I'm new to this whole breeding process and I would like to start experimenting. Did some skimming around the forums looking for answers and found a lot but I'm confused with one part.

Say I took a feminized automatic buddha purple kush seed, used the colloidal silver method to have it produce pollen and then use that pollen on the same strain plant to inbreed for an f2, would this f2 lose quality or autoflowering traits?

Or would it be better if I just pick a different strain to pollinate, like for example.. auto buddha purple kush x auto purple cheese

The reason I'm asking is because I ordered a 5 pack of the buddha purple kush from the 'tude and I REALLY want to get into making some feminized seeds.. especially with that strain.

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Good probability that some of the autoflowering traits could be lost. To the best of my knowledge some breeders backcross with ruderalis to ensure the probability of your concern to diminish. Suppose that would explain why my auto blue mammoth didnt express its full auto characteristics. I had to switch the photoperiod to 12/12 to flower.

calicat said:

Good probability that some of the autoflowering traits could be lost. To the best of my knowledge some breeders backcross with ruderalis to ensure the probability of your concern to diminish. Suppose that would explain why my auto blue mammoth didnt express its full auto characteristics. I had to switch the photoperiod to 12/12 to flower.

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That's what confuses me.. I figured auto x auto = auto. So, would my best bet be to just not inbreed at all? Am I better off crossbreeding with a different strain auto containing ruderalis?

From what others have told me, an inbred f2 auto is hit or miss, sometimes more potent, sometimes less and sometimes not even auto at all.. which confuses me even more because I would be inbreeding 2 auto's, so I figure the 'auto, ruderalis' trait would be the dominant.... right? Frying my brain over here.. lol

I have never tried to IBL an auto seemingly interesting future project. So, I would be the worst person to ask that question lol. That is what I heard as well it is a hit and miss in terms of potency, auto characteristics and yield for that matter. Well that would depend on the percentages of the ruderalis. For instance lets say you have a strain thats made up of william's wonder at 50%, then afghan kush at 25%, and then ruderalis at 25%. In that example based on probability the William's wonder would be the dominating strain. I believe most breeders that fiddle with autos have the highest parentage going to what they hope will express more than others. The other genetic influences come next.

Looks like I'm going to be creating some guinea pig plants. Gonna try to do some auto feminized IBL seeds from the buddha kush and what I'll do with the auto fem purple cheese I have going right now ( 3 weeks old ) is apply CS to the lower nodes, leaving the top node so it can at least leave me some consumable bud. Hopefully I can get those lower nodes to grow some nuts. That would be a sweet cross breed.. Auto fem purple cheese kush.

That lower node CS treatmeant experiment was done well in this thread: http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/1053249-chimeras-creating-feminized-auto-flowering-seeds-project.html but he ran into outdoor mold problems unfortunately. I'll try to experiment the same way he did and might make a log journal for it.

If anyone has any experience with IBL auto breeding and making fem seeds in the same manner... please chime in.

Edit: I wonder what the output would be for fem IBL seeds from an asexual plant... Might have to find out the hard way.

ma jigga said:

That's what confuses me.. I figured auto x auto = auto. So, would my best bet be to just not inbreed at all? Am I better off crossbreeding with a different strain auto containing ruderalis?

From what others have told me, an inbred f2 auto is hit or miss, sometimes more potent, sometimes less and sometimes not even auto at all.. which confuses me even more because I would be inbreeding 2 auto's, so I figure the 'auto, ruderalis' trait would be the dominant.... right? Frying my brain over here.. lol

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Well, if you're in it, you have to be in it to win it. Now, with the way the genetics work, if you self your autoflowering plant, you should get between 25 and 50 percent plants that will carry the autoflowering characteristic. If you really want to reliably and regularly produce an autoflowering plant, you would be best off getting an auto male or reversing one of the autos from that generation and pollinating one of the other autos with it. The more you repeat that process, the closer you will get to creating 100 percent autoflowering seeds. You definitely would also want to be able to grow enough to select for potency.