Brown Necrotic Middle of Leaves

DabDan

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1498674677804.jpg 1498674719403.jpg 1498674846402.jpg So I am new to this site. Haven't growen in a good 6 years. Sad to say, I lost some knowledge along the way. Let me start by saying I grow outdoors in pots. The soil where I live is shit and would need too much amending to be even acceptable to grow in. So I have seedlings in one gallons, some plants about a foot in a half in 2 gallons and 3 in 5 gallon pots. As far as my soil pH goes, one 5 gallon goes from about a 6.5 up to about 8 as I go deeper down, and one goes from about a 6.6 6.7 down to about a 5.3 as I go deeper down. How would I got about getting the soil pH close to the same all around? My well water comes out at a 7.0 ph. Nutrients being used are Fish Emulsion 5-1-1, Grow more 3-1-1, and MG Liquafeed 12-4-8. I am watering every few days as the soil dries out and feeding every other watering. There is some spots that look like light burn that are bleach colored and there are some spots that are completely dead brown and crinkly to the touch. Could it be not enough nutes? Too many nutes? Under or over watering? Potassium,Calcium, or Phosphorus Defficiency? I gave the 3 in 5 gallon pots some hydroplex 0-10-6 and it seemed to lighten the problem up but it still exists. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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im4satori

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man

looking at the pics id say to give them only water and Epsom salt 1/2 tsp per gallon and spray them with 1/2 tsp per gallon 2 or 3x every 4 days

the over all plants look pretty green so id slow down on the nutes a bit until they ask for more

as for you ph issue
im not really sure whats up with that
if I told you anything itll be a guess

low soil ph can cause magnesium uptake reduction

best thing I can guess is to water them real heavy with lots of run off and so the tray under he pot holds water and hope the ph balances out

otherwise im not sure
 

im4satori

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I recently

(like yesterday)

managed to raise my ph of my soil using silica

but with you having a mixed layering thing I don't really know if that's the answer for you or if that would help

id ask some others maybe in the organics section on how to correct the ph layering issue you have
 

DabDan

New Member
When I got them, they seemed to be nitrogen toxified. What is the benefits of the Epsom salts? Do they contain any micro or macro nutrients? And those brown spots do they look like a deffieciency to you or nute born?
 

DabDan

New Member
I recently

(like yesterday)

managed to raise my ph of my soil using silica

but with you having a mixed layering thing I don't really know if that's the answer for you or if that would help

id ask some others maybe in the organics section on how to correct the ph layering issue you have
How did you raise with silicate? How much did you have to use to raise a point?
 

DabDan

New Member
man

looking at the pics id say to give them only water and Epsom salt 1/2 tsp per gallon and spray them with 1/2 tsp per gallon 2 or 3x every 4 days

the over all plants look pretty green so id slow down on the nutes a bit until they ask for more

as for you ph issue
im not really sure whats up with that
if I told you anything itll be a guess

low soil ph can cause magnesium uptake reduction

best thing I can guess is to water them real heavy with lots of run off and so the tray under he pot holds water and hope the ph balances out

otherwise im not sure
When I got them, they seemed to be nitrogen toxified. What is the benefits of the Epsom salts? Do they contain any micro or macro nutrients? And those brown spots do they look like a deffieciency to you or nute burn?
 

im4satori

Well-Known Member
When I got them, they seemed to be nitrogen toxified. What is the benefits of the Epsom salts? Do they contain any micro or macro nutrients? And those brown spots do they look like a deffieciency to you or nute born?
Epsom salt is

magnesium sulfate

so it adds magnesium and sulfur but its used to get magnesium
 

im4satori

Well-Known Member
How did you raise with silicate? How much did you have to use to raise a point?
it depends on what brand silica you use as to how much

I used 1 gram per gallon of potassium silicate powder
which is about 1oz per gallon silica blast

silica raises ph of water significantly ... I cant say with accuracy but id say the water ph after adding the silica was ph 8.5 maybe higher.. added it into the soil and a couple hours later the soil ph was up

if you want to wait a couple days I can report back to you on how it works out... I just did it yesterday!

watered it in heavy and it raise the ph from 5.5 - 6.2 on a couple and from 5.8 to 6.4 on the others
 
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