⚠︎ Brother OneHitDone Gone VERTICAL ⇪

OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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A little update on my first vert adventure:
Well, 24hrs after wrestling the girls into the flower box shit went bad. Everything was drooping on both plants.
Same system design, same nutes, only light spectrum change. :fire:

Been sweating it going over this play by play and nursing them along with every trick I can come up with. The night I ended up with the lovely aquarium aroma but it is strange because nothing is slimy. Anyways - flush, pool peroxide, flush pool shock, etc.
Not things are tuning around but the girls lost a lot of there older fans.
All I can come up with is that the shear weight of the root balls hanging on themselves when lifted out of the Rubbermaids was enough to do damage to the roots to the point of causing this.
I have a solution devised already that will allow me to move the whole Rubbermaid when the time comes rather than removing the lid with the plant.
Once the girls put on a few more clothes I will get some updated pics
Still looking forward to this vertical adventure!
 
pinner420

pinner420

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OneHitDone said:
A little update on my first vert adventure:
Well, 24hrs after wrestling the girls into the flower box shit went bad. Everything was drooping on both plants.
Same system design, same nutes, only light spectrum change. :fire:

Been sweating it going over this play by play and nursing them along with every trick I can come up with. The night I ended up with the lovely aquarium aroma but it is strange because nothing is slimy. Anyways - flush, pool peroxide, flush pool shock, etc.
Not things are tuning around but the girls lost a lot of there older fans.
All I can come up with is that the shear weight of the root balls hanging on themselves when lifted out of the Rubbermaids was enough to do damage to the roots to the point of causing this.
I have a solution devised already that will allow me to move the whole Rubbermaid when the time comes rather than removing the lid with the plant.
Once the girls put on a few more clothes I will get some updated pics
Still looking forward to this vertical adventure!
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Throw a touch of b1 at'em.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Brother OneHitDone is Not Done with Doin the Vert Runs!!
Minor adjustments to the system to make my Rubbermaids moveable
When store bought bulkheads just don't fit the bill:
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If you found this post searching for RDWC or DWC, pay attenting - all the growers in the know are here in the vert section and you might learn a thing or two.
Like this, using big ass Uniseals like 2"ers, Installing them from the inside out on your curved tubs gives a much better fit when possible
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Then a safety bead of polyurethane and I'm feeling good about this setup
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Now I can just slip some cheap ass 2" vinyl discharge hose over the 1 1/2 unions poking out and clamp them down. No barbs so they will slide ride off when it comes time to move them back and forth from veg and flower :hump:
 
DesertGrow89

DesertGrow89

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Haven't seen many grows with Samsara gear how is the smoke?

When you started cutting off branches to place the plant on the trellis did you cut them off over a period of several days or all at once? How did they respond as far as stress and growth rate?
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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DesertGrow89 said:
Haven't seen many grows with Samsara gear how is the smoke?

When you started cutting off branches to place the plant on the trellis did you cut them off over a period of several days or all at once? How did they respond as far as stress and growth rate?
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The Samsara Sweet Black Angel is a fucking knock out. Super Sweet, Fueley, Peppery Funk. I would put it head to head with any strain going around the Norcal circle. Many of my closest friends prefer it to anything else.
I am still working through the Spiritual Punk and Green Love Potion. I have a couple different pheno's I'm regrowing do to some issues in the last run of them. I want to make sure I keep the best.

As far as cutting branches I only removed what wouldn't train to the trellis well and the plant showed no signs of slowing down. If you grow this way and you are happy with the strain your running there is no need to keep mother plants. Just use the material removed for training to make clones. And BIG Ass clones at that
 
since1991

since1991

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Chillin chillin said:
Please tell me you seriously don't think all nutrients are the same
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The results are. In my experience. Ive used everything on them shelves....all the same end result. Super minor differences in taste and smell....maybe...thats more growroom related and the end user really. There all the same to me. From Dyna...ionic...advanced...canna...h&g...botanicare..general...dutch master...cyco...mills... ALL THE SAME to me. Its like comparing silicate products....same shit..different label. Ive never used any nutrient or additive that made me go wow compared to another similar product. Once i learned how to use them and got a decent EC and pH meter that is. To be honest the best additive ive ever used is a kelp extract and fulvic acid as a foliar spray once in awhile in veg ajd early flower. What really made me go wow is topping and canopy management for a room full of prime tops. And then sealing up the room and running co2. That made me rethink decades of how i thought growrooms should operate.
 
since1991

since1991

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OneHitDone said:
It sounds good to say they are all the same but I don't believe they are either.
Wish I had taken some fucking chemistry classes and been smarter ;)
Just looking at something like Flora Nova or Ionic being able to get that Calcium load in the same bottle as the phosphorous you know something is different
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Its the calcium and sulphur thats the problem. And why true one parts are rare.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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since1991 said:
The results are. In my experience. Ive used everything on them shelves....all the same end result. Super minor differences in taste and smell....maybe...thats more growroom related and the end user really. There all the same to me. From Dyna...ionic...advanced...canna...h&g...botanicare..general...dutch master...cyco...mills... ALL THE SAME to me. Its like comparing silicate products....same shit..different label. Ive never used any nutrient or additive that made me go wow compared to another similar product. Once i learned how to use them and got a decent EC and pH meter that is. To be honest the best additive ive ever used is a kelp extract and fulvic acid as a foliar spray once in awhile in veg ajd early flower. What really made me go wow is topping and canopy management for a room full of prime tops. And then sealing up the room and running co2. That made me rethink decades of how i thought growrooms should operate.
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Still to say Pure Blend Pro and General Hydroponics Flora Series are the same?
Maybe end results very similar but the products are very different. How can you compare EC readings between a product made of Composted Sea Bird Shit to that of one composed of pure mineral salts?
 
since1991

since1991

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OneHitDone said:
Still to say Pure Blend Pro and General Hydroponics Flora Series are the same?
Maybe end results very similar but the products are very different. How can you compare EC readings between a product made of Composted Sea Bird Shit to that of one composed of pure mineral salts?
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Ec readings in a partly.or mostly organic base is near impossible first off. This was one of the early problems with the original Pure Blend Nutrient back in the nineties during testing in greenhouses (Growers Edge Sept 1997). And yes they are totally different in make up. But the end results are nearly identical if you have a consistent amd controllable growroom no matter what the climate and weather conditions are outside.
 
since1991

since1991

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OneHitDone said:
True, what products would you say are a "true one part"?
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I would say Ionic but its diluted as hell. And i found precipitate in a bottle of Bloom last week. Cns 17 is another one. Dynagro...still rocking fat colas simce the early eighties...theres a few. But nute companys like to play it safe in a two part mostly. Dry powders can be considered a one part. All the way back to ECO.
 
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