jordoblowstreez
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i guess it is all a personal opinion. i know there are a lot of strains that i wouldn't want any sweeteners added too.
Botanicare Sweet Carbo Berry or Citrus carbohydrates additive
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CrackerJax
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It may help the plant be healthy but it does not change the flavor of the weed.
They are not lying, but they are skirting the truth.
Molasses doesn't change the taste of weed, it gives it simple sugars and carb's that are easy for the plant to digest.
Will it improve your grow? Sure. Will it enhance the taste? Doubtful.
By the way, what does that cost??
They are not lying, but they are skirting the truth.
Molasses doesn't change the taste of weed, it gives it simple sugars and carb's that are easy for the plant to digest.
Will it improve your grow? Sure. Will it enhance the taste? Doubtful.
By the way, what does that cost??
jordoblowstreez
Active Member
not everyone is out to get everyone.
they really do work. its been proven.
even strait molasses works.
yes bettering the taste and aroma.
believe what you will and agree to disagree
they really do work. its been proven.
even strait molasses works.
yes bettering the taste and aroma.
believe what you will and agree to disagree
orzz
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I do use molasses.
CrackerJax
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Look up all the posts concerning molasses. No one believes it changes the taste of the plant. Molasses has a STRONG flavor ( I personally love it!), and yet, no change.
jordoblowstreez
Active Member
it all depends on the experience.
ive had great experiences with carbs and strongly recommend them
I've also read quite a bit of statements on this forum that sound like people pull them from their ass. Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read on the internet.
Growing is all up to the grower there are not set rules in stone saying you must do this and can't do that. experiment, try things, learn thing.
CrackerJax
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I also have used carbs extensively, like molasses.
I do believe in experimenting as well, but paying for high priced sugar waters aren't one of them. There's a ton of hype out there all claiming to have some secret ingredient, but in the end the tried and true ways always come out on top.
I do believe in experimenting as well, but paying for high priced sugar waters aren't one of them. There's a ton of hype out there all claiming to have some secret ingredient, but in the end the tried and true ways always come out on top.
It's a great marketing trick for inexperienced growers since there are tons entering this hobby in the past few years.
GH's floranectar specifically advertises this, but most experienced growers know that the taste/smell of these carb additives do NOT transfer over.
They might bring out a better aroma in your resulting flowers, but that's based on the genetics of the strain. But you won't get a Pineapple or fruit flavor.
CrackerJax
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Bingo!! You get a cookie...
You can finish with molasses, maple, or cane syrup but in the end your weed will taste the same all else being equal....
anhedonia
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Ok so botanicare are a bunch of liars. Heres a statement that comes streight from a sweet brochure: Sweet all-natural carbohydrate and mineral supplement is scientificly formulated with carbohydrates, organic acids, viatamins, amino acids and SELECTED BIOACTIVE ESTERS for flavor and aroma enhancement. ESTERS are formed by linking organic acids and alcohols. Esters act as flavor and aroma enhancers in plant products. Sweet contains contains esters derived from natural sources.
So thats an example of skirting the truth? They want to fool growers into buying this stuff?
So thats an example of skirting the truth? They want to fool growers into buying this stuff?
CrackerJax
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Yes, technically they are skirting the truth. I'm not saying it's a scam. i'm sure the stuff helps the plant. Lots of things do.
Okay, now just look at one of the sentence in a technical way. Esters act as flavor and aroma enhancers in plant products. Plant products? That could mean anything. While esters may do what they are saying, they do not state that the flavor will be imparted. It would be far easier for them to simply say.....if you use this "strawberry" flavor organic liquid, your harvest will taste like strawberries or enhanced by a strawberry flavor. But they do not say that. They basically give you some legal talk that is accurate without really saying anything at all. Their label is descriptive, but not in any context of actually saying the flavor will be enhanced. Get it??
Never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. Once they put it in your mind....the rest is easy.
Okay, now just look at one of the sentence in a technical way. Esters act as flavor and aroma enhancers in plant products. Plant products? That could mean anything. While esters may do what they are saying, they do not state that the flavor will be imparted. It would be far easier for them to simply say.....if you use this "strawberry" flavor organic liquid, your harvest will taste like strawberries or enhanced by a strawberry flavor. But they do not say that. They basically give you some legal talk that is accurate without really saying anything at all. Their label is descriptive, but not in any context of actually saying the flavor will be enhanced. Get it??
Never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. Once they put it in your mind....the rest is easy.
Shackleford.R
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i'm a first time grower, hydroponics, you can check my grows if you like.. i picked up the FloraNectar and I'm using it in one grow and not the other, i have two grows same strain (one flowering mother, the other transitioning to flower clones) planning on using FN in the mother grow, primarily as a carbo load given molasses is said to do nasty things in nutrient solution, but also hoping it to impart a flavor. guy at the grow shop said he used pineapple and didnt like the after taste, implying that it left a taste. on his word i grabbed the fruitnfusion berry stuff.... anyhow, i'm not using it in the clone grow... all things equal except for the floranectar...
i'll let everyone know how the taste test goes in about 2 months!! haha if this thread is alive still.
i'll let everyone know how the taste test goes in about 2 months!! haha if this thread is alive still.
born2killspam
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Yea, bioactive esters in this case would mean esters that are broken down to ionic components which are uptakable by plants (meaning no longer esters).. Actually I jumped the gun, it never even said it was bioactive to the plants themselves..Yes, technically they are skirting the truth. I'm not saying it's a scam. i'm sure the stuff helps the plant. Lots of things do.
Okay, now just look at one of the sentence in a technical way. Esters act as flavor and aroma enhancers in plant products. Plant products? That could mean anything. While esters may do what they are saying, they do not state that the flavor will be imparted. It would be far easier for them to simply say.....if you use this "strawberry" flavor organic liquid, your harvest will taste like strawberries or enhanced by a strawberry flavor. But they do not say that. They basically give you some legal talk that is accurate without really saying anything at all. Their label is descriptive, but not in any context of actually saying the flavor will be enhanced. Get it??
Never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. Once they put it in your mind....the rest is easy.
In anycase, the only carb additives worth a damn are made from truffles and safron.. Only catch is you need to use 150yr old balsamic vinegar as pH down to atomize and/or transmute their carbs and esters.. I'm currently in the process of selling this recipe to AN.. French ppl will especially like the flavor it imparts on the buds..
64 bucks a gallon...to f much. I agree the results are not what they claim...I been using berry...2 tables, they smelled no better after harvest than the other tables...I used this shit all the way thru flower...was reallt expecting to smell berry...nopeIt may help the plant be healthy but it does not change the flavor of the weed.
They are not lying, but they are skirting the truth.
Molasses doesn't change the taste of weed, it gives it simple sugars and carb's that are easy for the plant to digest.
Will it improve your grow? Sure. Will it enhance the taste? Doubtful.
By the way, what does that cost??
I'm trying to do more with less
IMHO AN is a bunch of shit..just great marketing and art work. I'm back to GH stable easy to use
born2killspam
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Anybody here catch that sad AN plug on Weeds?? Buddy chose that line for a freakin large scale guerilla op.. Can't wait till they hook up a product placement deal with Trailer Park Boys..
Shackleford.R
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you must be a new weeds fan.. they have been plugging advanced nutrients since season 1!! back when conrad set up the first grow house, all over the place were AN bottles, GIANT AN feeding charts, AN marketing posters on random walls, even the "cannabis cup" they go to in season 1 had AN product placement. season 2 when they first start the grow, all the cast members stand around a GIANT res and all dump a different type of nutrient into the tank...Anybody here catch that sad AN plug on Weeds?? Buddy chose that line for a freakin large scale guerilla op.. Can't wait till they hook up a product placement deal with Trailer Park Boys..
would call weeds a sellout but uh.. its too damn good and who gives a fuck, nutrients of some type or another are a part of growing herb, period.
born2killspam
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Nah, I've watched it from the start for some dumb reason.. Guess I never really considered the show worthy of attention being paid if Kevin Nealon isn't in the scene.. Its no Breaking Bad, thats for sure..
Its no Breaking Bad, thats for sure..
Shackleford.R
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Kevin Nealon is KILLER on weeds "LEGENDARY!!!" haha Andy steals more than his fair share of scenes. i have a love/hate relationship with breaking bad, every episode gives you a little taste, then leaves you hanging for the next week, so at the end of each episode, although you saw some wild shit, you feel like you got nothin... sort of like the drug they cook... haha. (side note, that damn show has/had my brother wanting to cook meth, was that their goal?!LMAO)
its rough to compare the two, but i can see how one would, i'm just a HUGE weeds fan, although this season is a bit less/more than i want/expected... im a strange cat you see??
sorry for threadjacking!!!
Botanicare... yeah... good stuff? no? yes? back on topic!!
its rough to compare the two, but i can see how one would, i'm just a HUGE weeds fan, although this season is a bit less/more than i want/expected... im a strange cat you see??
sorry for threadjacking!!!
Botanicare... yeah... good stuff? no? yes? back on topic!!
CrackerJax
New Member
That's called the "bait and switch"
You don't want this one, you need THIS ONE!! Plz do let us all know how it turns out.FUNNY!!!!Yea, bioactive esters in this case would mean esters that are broken down to ionic components which are uptakable by plants (meaning no longer esters).. Actually I jumped the gun, it never even said it was bioactive to the plants themselves..
In anycase, the only carb additives worth a damn are made from truffles and safron.. Only catch is you need to use 150yr old balsamic vinegar as pH down to atomize and/or transmute their carbs and esters.. I'm currently in the process of selling this recipe to AN.. French ppl will especially like the flavor it imparts on the buds..
64 bucks? Holey moley, what a business....... they are giving you guys the business. Plants can't make flavors.... woot!
born2killspam
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Oh and on the note of esters, they don't play nearly as big a role in aroma/flavour of weed as terpenes do.. If I was AN I'd be using terpenes as my word of interest because over the last few years, terpene knowledge has his this scene in a pretty big way..