bodhi seeds

Breko

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How's everyone's germination rates for the testers going? I started 5 different strains, including the two g13/hp hybrids, and the testers are both taking slightly longer than the rest. Every other seed (11 of 23, 100% of each) that I started is already up and above ground, but I am currently 4/6 and 3/6 on the dirty hippy x g13/hp and pinesoul x g13/hp. Its still a couple days too early to be concerned, but usually my bodhi beans pop pretty uniformly and very quickly.
6/6 and 12/12...... But IM concerned because between the B and GGG testers I planned on having a pretty equal number of male/female....Everyone that has showed so far (75%?) are CHICKS! Not like it's a problem but I wont have room for all of them till mid next month. Which means some testers will have a 60+ day veg. BEAST MAMAS! :fire:
 

Mad Hamish

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6/6 and 12/12...... But IM concerned because between the B and GGG testers I planned on having a pretty equal number of male/female....Everyone that has showed so far (75%?) are CHICKS! Not like it's a problem but I wont have room for all of them till mid next month. Which means some testers will have a 60+ day veg. BEAST MAMAS! :fire:
HAHAHA!!! I had this problem in July. You should have seen my canopy, t5 sub canopy lighting, fans all on full tilt it sounded like an airplane taking off.
Ran it all but it got hairy for a while. I got one boy out of 36 beans, three full Gage packs.
 

TonightYou

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Like what? bongsmilie
Perhaps you've found short flowering strains to be equals to longer flowerin strains, but it hasn't been my case in growing, nor from having caregivers for years. You do have years of experience on me, so your experience will vary but I simply don't think all qualities desired, which are different, can be found in a consistent neat little 8 week window.
 

Amos Otis

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I'm toking some 58 day Ace of Spades atm. I can't imagine what fine qualities could be missing....it's almost a perfect smoke of smooth, great flavor, and a +high.:weed:

However, I plan for smokes that suit my tastes, usually, as I'm sure you do, also. I've just not found anything in my limited ventures into longer finishers that would lead me to conclude that more time = better smoke. YMMV.
 

st0wandgrow

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I'm toking some 58 day Ace of Spades atm. I can't imagine what fine qualities could be missing....it's almost a perfect smoke of smooth, great flavor, and a +high.:weed:

However, I plan for smokes that suit my tastes, usually, as I'm sure you do, also. I've just not found anything in my limited ventures into longer finishers that would lead me to conclude that more time = better smoke. YMMV.
I think sativas fall in to this category. IMO it's pretty tough to find a <8 week sativa that can stack up to ones that finish in the 12-14 week range. Indicas and hybrids are a different story
 

TonightYou

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I'm toking some 58 day Ace of Spades atm. I can't imagine what fine qualities could be missing....it's almost a perfect smoke of smooth, great flavor, and a +high.:weed:

However, I plan for smokes that suit my tastes, usually, as I'm sure you do, also. I've just not found anything in my limited ventures into longer finishers that would lead me to conclude that more time = better smoke. YMMV.
I agree with the idea of growing what suits ones tastes.

Note, I never said longer equals better.
 

Mad Hamish

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IMO you have got to really love pure Sativas to run them indoors, and even outside you better hope the good lord smiles on your prayers for dry weather at the end. Indoors I found I get the best out of them subtracting the extra bloom time from the veg time. Normally I would clone and veg for four to six weeks, but my sats I will clone and flower after only two weeks, perhaps even less. I have had little 12 to 15 cm plants finish at nearly a meter, that was Super Silver Haze I think. Conversely once you dial a Haze in you get yields that will make any Kush grower cry. And they can eat all the light you can throw at them and respond by making BUD. You know, the ones where the fans are half eaten up after the swell is done. Another plus is the things are tanks, bug resistant as can be. I just pulled the trigger on some of Sonic's Pursang Haze, looks like a monster. It is going to be fun, but overall my faith lies in hybrids to bring the desired effects to the table within a decent time frame. Just can't yield close on those huge satty colas. And you have to admit, it is worth the effort growing them just because they really do look badass, super rewarding feeling come the pull. Says really do give it back in spades as long as you have the patience.
 

TonightYou

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IMO you have got to really love pure Sativas to run them indoors, and even outside you better hope the good lord smiles on your prayers for dry weather at the end. Indoors I found I get the best out of them subtracting the extra bloom time from the veg time. Normally I would clone and veg for four to six weeks, but my sats I will clone and flower after only two weeks, perhaps even less. I have had little 12 to 15 cm plants finish at nearly a meter, that was Super Silver Haze I think. Conversely once you dial a Haze in you get yields that will make any Kush grower cry. And they can eat all the light you can throw at them and respond by making BUD. You know, the ones where the fans are half eaten up after the swell is done. Another plus is the things are tanks, bug resistant as can be. I just pulled the trigger on some of Sonic's Pursang Haze, looks like a monster. It is going to be fun, but overall my faith lies in hybrids to bring the desired effects to the table within a decent time frame. Just can't yield close on those huge satty colas. And you have to admit, it is worth the effort growing them just because they really do look badass, super rewarding feeling come the pull. Says really do give it back in spades as long as you have the patience.
Yep, I'm finding that out. I did only veg both girls to about 8 inches, which was only about 3 weeks in veg. Going to have to tie this girls down to avoid light damage or simply cut them. Don't want to cut themy though at this point, I'd rather tie them up. I can see why people don't grow pure sativas indoors, I swear both just want to keep growing up. Luckily both gals have a great frame and are very easily manipulated
 

Mad Hamish

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Yep, I'm finding that out. I did only veg both girls to about 8 inches, which was only about 3 weeks in veg. Going to have to tie this girls down to avoid light damage or simply cut them. Don't want to cut themy though at this point, I'd rather tie them up. I can see why people don't grow pure sativas indoors, I swear both just want to keep growing up. Luckily both gals have a great frame and are very easily manipulated
I have snapped colas in half by accident, trimmed some bud off and taped them up with a little sling tied to a stake, or just tied the break together. Also broken ramial branches during training only to tape them back up. Most of the time I ended up with perfect bud, sometimes that ends up being the biggest one too. Satties can take a beating so don't be too shy. On land races like the Malawi too heavy on the nutes and you get balls way more easily than some physical abuse, pretty much the only way to herm an African land race is to over feed it.
 

TonightYou

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I have snapped colas in half by accident, trimmed some bud off and taped them up with a little sling tied to a stake, or just tied the break together. Also broken ramial branches during training only to tape them back up. Most of the time I ended up with perfect bud, sometimes that ends up being the biggest one too. Satties can take a beating so don't be too shy. On land races like the Malawi too heavy on the nutes and you get balls way more easily than some physical abuse, pretty much the only way to herm an African land race is to over feed it.
I can tell these gals would do well outdoors if they were in the right climate. They are structurally strong and are no wimpy plants. That's why I think tying them up would be a good thing to do rather than simply topping them.

I've broken branches before and you are right they will bounce back. In fact broke a Malawi when I was pulling out White lotus for a photo shoot, in three days, she was completely healed and self standing (used a bamboo pole and some wire). Quite possibly the quickest heal I've experienced, and she is a tad more stout compared to her sister. Gotta say the pure sativa leaves are gorgeous, long flowing blades. Bud formation is just beginning on these gals so I'll be updating the Ace thread soon with some pictures this weekend.
 

TonightYou

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Supercropping used to freak me out. The plants got over it sooner than I did. But mastering it eliminated nets and screens......so simple and effective for canopy management I find.
I'm tempted to do so, I know the girls can bounce back. Perhaps an experiment/new experience should be tried. I can tie up one and cut her sister
 

TonightYou

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I've got some regs about to be put in flower; clones taken. I've decided to try 'mainlining' for the first time with them, as the girly clones will live on, even if I screw it up.
I've thought about main lining and determined it's simply easier to top at the second node. Don't feeling like pulling the plant all around the edges of a pot, my model is always KISS
 

Amos Otis

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I've thought about main lining and determined it's simply easier to top at the second node. Don't feeling like pulling the plant all around the edges of a pot, my model is always KISS
Agreed, and it requires a longer veg time than I like. But both flower rooms are occupied for awhile, so the mainlining experiment comes at a good point w/ time to kill.
 
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