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st0wandgrow

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Shipping seeds across state lines is illegal. Selling seeds in the sates is illegal. Federal felony. I suggest you edit your post.

I recommend all riu members to not reply to this.

Does NGR (and other domestic seed companies) frown upon being discussed in open forums like this?
 

kgp

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Does NGR (and other domestic seed companies) frown upon being discussed in open forums like this?
Probably not. But they would if they lost their merchant account because of it.

Does the credit card merchant? Processing transaction for illegal purchases? Probably.

Let me ask you this.. can you order seeds with a credit card from hn?

Was it convenient while it lasted?

Do you and many others wish you still could?

I do.
 

TonightYou

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While these companies can be seen as "helpful" it's not like they don't advertise. Really I think they are stupid and reckless, but I'm sure there are bigger fish to fry
 

kgp

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There are always bigger fish. Hn for example. They got fried brother. I bet his his business took a big hit. Im not sending anyone cash.

Sell just 20 packs a day @ 100 bucks. That 2 k in illegal transaction. Mutiply that times 365.

730000 a year in illegal transactions.

Divide that in half for profit.

Thats 365 thousand dollars a year. Profit. Thats much more than your avg dope dealer.

Big enough fish yet? Depends in who you're asking.
 

st0wandgrow

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Probably not. But they would if they lost their merchant account because of it.

Does the credit card merchant? Processing transaction for illegal purchases? Probably.

Let me ask you this.. can you order seeds with a credit card from hn?

Was it convenient while it lasted?

Do you and many others wish you still could?

I do.

Well, I do see your point but these companies would not exist if nobody knew they were out there. They have chosen to do business, knowing full well what the consequences may be, right?

I'll shoot them an e-mail and see what they have to say about it....
 

kgp

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Do and say what you want. Or what they want. Im nobody.

All I know is l wasn't happy when hn lost their merchant accounts.

If it's worth it to you, to advertise to this guy who you don't know who he is, then by by all means feel free.

I happen to like the simplicity and selection. It takes one complaint and investigation. Gone.

There business is selling stickers and shirts.
 
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SmokyLungs

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Shipping seeds across state lines is illegal. Selling seeds in the sates is illegal. Federal felony. I suggest you edit your post.

I recommend all riu members to not reply to this.
Your kidding right its on the web for everyone to see I doubt I just blew their cover your the one making this suspicious every one here gets there seed shipped over international border lines and your making a big deal over state lines? I'm confused
 

st0wandgrow

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There are always bigger fish. Hn for example. They got fried brother. I bet his his business took a big hit. Im not sending anyone cash.

Sell just 20 packs a day @ 100 bucks. That 2 k in illegal transaction. Mutiply that times 365.

730000 a year in illegal transactions.

Divide that in half for profit.

Thats 365 thousand dollars a year. Profit. Thats much more than your avg dope dealer.

Big enough fish yet? Depends in who you're asking.
That's not profit. They have to pay the breeders, staff, maintain a website, other overhead, etc.


Do and say what you want. Or what they want. Im nobody.

All I know is l wasn't happy when hn lost their merchant accounts.

If it's worth it to you, to advertise to this guy who you don't know who he is, then by by all means feel free.

I happen to like the simplicity and selection. It takes one complaint and investigation. Gone.

There business is selling stickers and shirts.

Ive said my piece. Im out of this thread. Enjoy.
I'm not trying to advertise for these guys or anyone else. Their company is being discussed and you're suggesting that it shouldn't be. Your point may be spot on, but I'd rather hear that from the horses mouth.

No offense, but a matter of convenience for you is not a good reason to never discuss a seedbank that others may like to use.
 

kgp

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That's not profit. They have to pay the breeders, staff, maintain a website, other overhead, etc.
Ive figured in the breeders getting half in my made up numbers

You know what. I don't know why I give a shit anyway. Ive got more beans than I know what to do with. Im going to be constantly making more. I guess I was just really bitter about what happened to HN, but your right. They get what they deserve.

Advertised so much, lost their customers, merchant acc, had to change their name, had to change their IG account.

They were much better when it was word of mouth amongst friends and growers. Times change.

Who gives a shit if they lose their merchant account or get shut down. Id hate to say I told you so.


Yes OP, they are legit. Order away. Dont spend 80 bucks risking it or anything. Happy growing.
 

kgp

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No offense, but a matter of convenience for you is not a good reason to never discuss a seedbank that others may like to use.
Its not just my convenience. Its mine, yours, and every other person who counts on them to come through for beans.
 

st0wandgrow

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Its not just my convenience. Its mine, yours, and every other person who counts on them to come through for beans.

Don't get me wrong kgp. I do see your point. It's a double edged sword though. A seed distributor can't survive with a handful of customers. They have to have some way of advertising that they exist. With that comes the risks that you've outlined ...... but I have to assume that they've thought this through before turning the open sign on.

I'm very curious to see what their stance is on this.
 

XXVII St.

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AND THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

They have enough customers. Probably don't need the 16 year olds from RIU using Mom's credit cards (that happened and got another distributor FUCKED)

Take a gamble and if they show up be happy. If you don't have 60 bucks to lose you probably shouldn't be buying ceeds anyway.
 

SmokyLungs

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AND THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THso aINGS.

They have enough customers. Probably don't need the 16 year olds from RIU using Mom's credit cards (that happened and got another distributor FUCKED)

Take a gamble and if they show up be happy. If you don't have 60 bucks to lose you probably shouldn't be buying ceeds anyway.[/QUOTE
So just cuz I asked a question on a forum made for questions for topics like these I am now 16 using my moms cc according to your logic
 

kgp

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No
So just cuz I asked a question on a forum made for questions for topics like these I am now 16 using my moms cc according to your logic
no dude...

Stows probably right. Compassion. That's what it's all about.

It's just sad how many 16 year olds will read this. It takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch.

I give them a year. I hope I'm wrong.
 

SmokyLungs

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We
No

no dude...

Stows probably right. Compassion. That's what it's all about.

It's just sad how many 16 year olds will read this. It takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch.

I give them a year. I hope I'm wrong.
Well I just needed to find out myself thanks for helping me so how do I delete threads
 
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