Big Time Products

Has anyone seen this new line or know anything about this company? Got a really cool sample pack at one of the local hydro stores. Decided to give Big Time Enzyme and Big Time Roots a run. I absolutely love these products! The Big Time Enzyme is bad ass for hydro grower. My reservoirs stabilized and I haven't had a single problem after using Big Time Enzyme where before I was having wild pH swings and flirting with lockout. All the roots in my DWC are bright white and extremely healthy which I think Big Time Roots has had something to do with. I'm interested to give the Big Time Rinse a run in a few weeks and see how it effects the taste.

Hope this company sticks around, they're pretty bad ass.

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Jason Smith is stealing your info. dont buy from them watch your card info i dont have time to explain look on my other post. It was so bad i came on here to warn people.
 

jijiandfarmgang

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How come jiji - just another hater who can't stand to see others have success and make something of themselves.
Mayve if you stop hating others and give some positive energy things wouldn't be so bleak for ya!
Maybe I seem like a hater, but I'm not a big fan of company’s who take advantage of the ignorant.

GuerillaRed made that post a while ago and it was his second or so post if I recall correctly (of 9 total)

Shill anyone? .................

The bottles look lame as hell, cartoonie pics and buzz words.

To be honest I know nothing about the ingredients, could care less. Maybe I'm close minded but once you seen one gimmicky brand of nutrients/supplements you've seen them all.

Will people stop going to GNC to get the next big weight loss / muscle building supplement? not anytime soon ...Nor will they stop going to hydro stores and buy unnecessary products.

My outlook isn't bleak, times are good :)


Also, I've been toying with the idea of making some Youtube videos on Nutrient basics, the current Nutrient Paradigm of indoor cultivators, basically what’s in the bottle or bag, and how to make an informed decision on what to purchase for yourself. Of course, I'm always busy and to make the video or videos good would take a while.


- Jiji
 

swiftkillpapa

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Maybe I seem like a hater, but I'm not a big fan of company’s who take advantage of the ignorant.

GuerillaRed made that post a while ago and it was his second or so post if I recall correctly (of 9 total)

Shill anyone? .................

The bottles look lame as hell, cartoonie pics and buzz words.

To be honest I know nothing about the ingredients, could care less. Maybe I'm close minded but once you seen one gimmicky brand of nutrients/supplements you've seen them all.

Will people stop going to GNC to get the next big weight loss / muscle building supplement? not anytime soon ...Nor will they stop going to hydro stores and buy unnecessary products.

My outlook isn't bleak, times are good :)


Also, I've been toying with the idea of making some Youtube videos on Nutrient basics, the current Nutrient Paradigm of indoor cultivators, basically what’s in the bottle or bag, and how to make an informed decision on what to purchase for yourself. Of course, I'm always busy and to make the video or videos good would take a while.


- Jiji
Apparently you haven't done any research or talked with the company to form that opinion. I've met and talked to the guy before knowing he had this company. Never bought from him. Was given his enzyme from someone else unrelated. His stuff when it comes to price is cheaper for more product than any other main brands in hydrostores. It works amazingly well and it don't have to use half a bottle per new hydroponic res fill. The dude who is s it is honest and gives it to you straight. I respect him and his company I wouldnt say were friends by any means but acquaintances. What's your criteria for judgment? A gut feeling made to bash a company... Great.
 

swiftkillpapa

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I've taken a couple chemistry classes in college. Big deal, I know, but nutrients aren't rocket science.

ahhh marketing at its finest

- Jiji
I guess I'm free marketing bc I like the dude and his product but I'm curious to know why you think from a chemistry class you can call product Bullshit if it works well? And what do you recommend instead? And have you ever used it?
 

jijiandfarmgang

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I guess I'm free marketing bc I like the dude and his product but I'm curious to know why you think from a chemistry class you can call product Bullshit if it works well? And what do you recommend instead? And have you ever used it?
I'm talking about the target marketing of the cartoony labels. You know, appealing to 20-30 year olds. Advance nutrients is better at this.

Big time rinse .......come on....I'm guessing some sort of "flushing agent" lol

No I haven't tried them.

I would recommend any agricultural grade nutrient that can be bought as a dry salt. I make my own mix, a few members helped me out on this forum to do this, its pretty easy. BUT you don't have to there are many companies that make pre-made nutrient mixes with various npk ratios. I think my current mix is about a 2:1:3 ratio. I made a large batch a while ago, used part of a bag of jacks hydro, and added some nutrients to the mix to adjust the Macros and CA, MG. There were enough micros currently in the mix without having to add any.

I'm sure the owner is a blast to hang out with. Why waste money on fancy bottles?

What makes fancy bottles of nutrients at hydro store better than other nutrients? Do they operate under a secret (not so secret guaranteed analysis) formula that no one can come close too or something?

If you do some lurking you will see people posting tons of nutrient ratio analysis with different NPK ratios of different companies nutrients. Weird thing is so many people have anecdotal evidence why brand x is the best. The thing is, cannabis can grow great under a wide array of nutrient ratios.

- Jiji
 

swiftkillpapa

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I'm talking about the target marketing of the cartoony labels. You know, appealing to 20-30 year olds. Advance nutrients is better at this.

Big time rinse .......come on....I'm guessing some sort of "flushing agent" lol

No I haven't tried them.

I would recommend any agricultural grade nutrient that can be bought as a dry salt. I make my own mix, a few members helped me out on this forum to do this, its pretty easy. BUT you don't have to there are many companies that make pre-made nutrient mixes with various npk ratios. I think my current mix is about a 2:1:3 ratio. I made a large batch a while ago, used part of a bag of jacks hydro, and added some nutrients to the mix to adjust the Macros and CA, MG. There were enough micros currently in the mix without having to add any.

I'm sure the owner is a blast to hang out with. Why waste money on fancy bottles?

What makes fancy bottles of nutrients at hydro store better than other nutrients? Do they operate under a secret (not so secret guaranteed analysis) formula that no one can come close too or something?

If you do some lurking you will see people posting tons of nutrient ratio analysis with different NPK ratios of different companies nutrients. Weird thing is so many people have anecdotal evidence why brand x is the best. The thing is, cannabis can grow great under a wide array of nutrient ratios.

- Jiji
So you just have an aversion to the way the bottle looks? Correct. Which isn't a great justification but saying you prefer salts and doing it yourself which is valid. I do agree that a lot of company gorge and market well like AN.
I do think making your own nutes is the best deal and I've been looking into it and if you have any direction for that I'd highly appreciate it. I think fatman had a thread that got lost. I've been looking into my own amino blends. But I need direction to make my own 3 part nutes.
Thanks for putting up with my Socratic Bullshit.
 

jijiandfarmgang

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fatman was a weird guy.........He sounded really knowledgeable most of the time, but sometimes he would be way off the mark......for instance micronutrients. Like way off.

http://scienceinhydroponics.com/

Hydrobuddy is a great tool to use on that site. Also if you go through and read all the articles its really informative on that site.

Also there are some pre-plugged in formulas in the database that you download.

That'd give you a pretty good start.

- Jiji
 

Flowki

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I guess I'm free marketing bc I like the dude and his product but I'm curious to know why you think from a chemistry class you can call product Bullshit if it works well? And what do you recommend instead? And have you ever used it?
It's more the fact that once you get half an understanding on the true npk and basic cal-mag-sulfur, the price drops 300% or more. A typical hydro company will charge stupid amount of a basic npk, lets say $12-30 per L for a cheap one. Then you need another bottle for cal and/or mg, another $5-20. Then ''boosters'' that you ''need'' but don't need - $1million. Then most don't add sulfur so you'd need to get that in another stupid bottle or some other form. Per grow it looks like even a cheap brand with all it's/alternative additives that you would be forced to use to fill required neuts will set you back $50 per grow if you are skimping the cheapest options.

Have seen salt based neuts that probably work out around $10 max a grow but have n-p-k-M-S-iron-etc all in one. Only thing needed would be a cal of choice, but already included in the total price.They are hard to get hold of in certain areas is the problem.. since they companys who actually know what the fk they are doing don't sell small scale.

You can be safe to assume that what pisses people off about hydro type companys is that they know they are selling you incomplete ferts that requires more expensive additives to make complete. If you go into a hydro store and put up a salt+cal combo on the shelf, 99% of all the other products costing at-least 2x as much are redundant.

Now what a person probably would not mind is if a hydro sold a liquid hard/soft water product that was complete and only needed one extra like cal (for chemical stability issues). Then you could accept the bigger price tag due to the convenience. But then again the shit they would sell you would probably be called ''the bible grow 1-99-2''. Or the improved ''Salt testament 1-99.01-2 (just add holy water)''.
 

swiftkillpapa

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It's more the fact that once you get half an understanding on the true npk and basic cal-mag-sulfur, the price drops 300% or more. A typical hydro company will charge stupid amount of a basic npk, lets say $12-30 per L for a cheap one. Then you need another bottle for cal and/or mg, another $5-20. Then ''boosters'' that you ''need'' but don't need - $1million. Then most don't add sulfur so you'd need to get that in another stupid bottle or some other form. Per grow it looks like even a cheap brand with all it's/alternative additives that you would be forced to use to fill required neuts will set you back $50 per grow if you are skimping the cheapest options.

Have seen salt based neuts that probably work out around $10 max a grow but have n-p-k-M-S-iron-etc all in one. Only thing needed would be a cal of choice, but already included in the total price.They are hard to get hold of in certain areas is the problem.. since they companys who actually know what the fk they are doing don't sell small scale.

You can be safe to assume that what pisses people off about hydro type companys is that they know they are selling you incomplete ferts that requires more expensive additives to make complete. If you go into a hydro store and put up a salt+cal combo on the shelf, 99% of all the other products costing at-least 2x as much are redundant.

Now what a person probably would not mind is if a hydro sold a liquid hard/soft water product that was complete and only needed one extra like cal (for chemical stability issues). Then you could accept the bigger price tag due to the convenience. But then again the shit they would sell you would probably be called ''the bible grow 1-99-2''. Or the improved ''Salt testament 1-99.01-2 (just add holy water)''.
Haha bible grow. I understand what your are saying. But I will say this company is a supplemental. So enzyme, rinse, pesticide and root enhancer. But you're pretty much talking h&g, AN, GH, and botanicare ya?
 

Growup hen

New Member
I used bio bizz and recently thought i should try advanced nutrients. would bio bizz do me just as good or a better question should i even pay the money for advanced nutrients such as big bud,overdrive, ancient earth and sensizyme
i dont know how to create my own nutes and properly understand npk ratios.
 

Flowki

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Haha bible grow. I understand what your are saying. But I will say this company is a supplemental. So enzyme, rinse, pesticide and root enhancer. But you're pretty much talking h&g, AN, GH, and botanicare ya?
It's probably more to do with transparency of content and no gimmicks.

Enzyme for example, I know what it does, or what they say it does, no solid signs of it doing any of that though, you just hope it's working as you pour another £1 worth into the pot. Never been able to find any real proof the stuff is truly useful. http://www.canna-uk.com/cannazym . I see a guy pouring stuff in a cup with more stuff that results in both stuffs doing other stuff.. and the result, Obviously, is better plants. Only you don't see any plants. Regardless of the price, see the problem?.
 

swiftkillpapa

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It's probably more to do with transparency of content and no gimmicks.

Enzyme for example, I know what it does, or what they say it does, no solid signs of it doing any of that though, you just hope it's working as you pour another £1 worth into the pot. Never been able to find any real proof the stuff is truly useful. http://www.canna-uk.com/cannazym . I see a guy pouring stuff in a cup with more stuff that results in both stuffs doing other stuff.. and the result, Obviously, is better plants. Only you don't see any plants. Regardless of the price, see the problem?.
See my thing is I use it for hydro. Enzymes that is. I have tomatoes and tobacco in a rail low pressure aero system outside that gets to about 100° with no root rot bc that shit kills dead material and keeps my root area clean. For me it's about maintaining good roots without worrying about the temps of my res
 

Flowki

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See my thing is I use it for hydro. Enzymes that is. I have tomatoes and tobacco in a rail low pressure aero system outside that gets to about 100° with no root rot bc that shit kills dead material and keeps my root area clean. For me it's about maintaining good roots without worrying about the temps of my res
That's a perfect example, I've tried to find info on the uses for enzyme and in what style of growing and what you've just described I've never came across, while it sounds extremely useful to you. On the flip side if you used it with synthetic pro mix or the likes could the broken down material be picked up by the plant and then spike your EC with neut burn?. If the broken down material is not usable with ought bio life then should that be on the label?. Maybe certain enzyme products actually specify uses, if you don't have those products at hand then the info is vague at best.. to somebody unsure how it works.
 

swiftkillpapa

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That's a perfect example, I've tried to find info on the uses for enzyme and in what style of growing and what you've just described I've never came across, while it sounds extremely useful to you. On the flip side if you used it with synthetic pro mix or the likes could the broken down material be picked up by the plant and then spike your EC with neut burn?. If the broken down material is not usable with ought bio life then should that be on the label?. Maybe certain enzyme products actually specify uses, if you don't have those products at hand then the info is vague at best.. to somebody unsure how it works.
I'm not really worried about my ec or pH for that matter. I set it once and let it be because it's outside in the heat it'll swing on its own. And I use primordial solutions sea green grow which I fucking love. Stick a little amount every fill and the plants have no issues. But the enzyme, or so the internet tells me thus us what an enzyme does, goes to dead or decaying matter breaks it down. EC tests electro conductivity which tests chemical salts in the water. Which if it's organic material breaking down the spike shouldn't be that high... Right? But again I use an "organic" concentrate so I'm not concerned with EC bc you can't test that well with organics. Or again so the internet tells me
 
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