Best ponics spray nozzle I have found.....

stems&seeds

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I'm thinking of upping the size of the pump to accomodate more sprayers. I will probably need to run approximately 20-30 on each system. How many do you think your Danner pump would be capable of powering without serious degredation of spray pattern? I'm thinking of simply trying a slightly larger Danner than the 5 you are using. I know I can easily calculate GPH especially based on the numbers you've provided above, however I'm more concerned with maintaining enough pressure for adequate spray patterns. I'm most likely just going to stick with the WRW4 that you are using.
 

poindexterous

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I'm thinking of upping the size of the pump to accomodate more sprayers. I will probably need to run approximately 20-30 on each system. How many do you think your Danner pump would be capable of powering without serious degredation of spray pattern? I'm thinking of simply trying a slightly larger Danner than the 5 you are using. I know I can easily calculate GPH especially based on the numbers you've provided above, however I'm more concerned with maintaining enough pressure for adequate spray patterns. I'm most likely just going to stick with the WRW4 that you are using.
Hmmmm......I haven't tested them below 10ft head but the pattern may hold up a bit lower, but not too much I suspect, also the droplets are finer the higher the pressure. Some pump makers provide flow specs at various heads, my Danner#7 says 300gph at 8ft, and 225gph at 9ft, so that should handle 20 to 30 of the WRW4's. Also there are some pumps with higher head pressures if you don't need submersible, Blueline makes some nifty units http://www.bluelineaquatics.com/products/water_pump/velocity.html
 

stems&seeds

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Just ordered 50 of the WRW4's from Dultmeir as they had the best price I could find. I'm going to play around with different pumps I have to get an idea of what how many nozzles I can run on each system. I'll post back here with results sometime over the next week when this is setup.
Are you using the Danner pondmaster series pumps?
 

poindexterous

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Just ordered 50 of the WRW4's from Dultmeir as they had the best price I could find. I'm going to play around with different pumps I have to get an idea of what how many nozzles I can run on each system. I'll post back here with results sometime over the next week when this is setup.
Are you using the Danner pondmaster series pumps?
Hey, yeah I never did find that other Delevan distributors #, sorry. Yup the Danner/Supreme Mag-Drive pumps are excellent units, never in 20 years of running them had one fail, I've mainly used models 3, 5 and 7, they have 1/2" output threads and a nice foam filter which should make clogging impossible. Models 9.5 and larger are much bulkier and have 3/4" outputs. Look forward to seeing your system!
 

stems&seeds

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Just received the nozzles. Apparently the color coding is still the same as the 4's that I just got are literally the same exact color, size, and shape of yours.
I'll post a few pics and results in a few days when I get this setup.
 

dirk d

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hey stem you have a part # from dultmier cant find it on their web site? just talked to deltmier they said they dont have the delevan brand they use t jet or something and he asked me for copper or stainless. i told him stainless and he said he would have to contact me back. ??? you have a # for them as well stem??
 

poindexterous

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hey stem you have a part # from dultmier cant find it on their web site? just talked to deltmier they said they dont have the delevan brand they use t jet or something and he asked me for copper or stainless. i told him stainless and he said he would have to contact me back. ??? you have a # for them as well stem??
The Tee Jet nozzles I tested(see photo) are only good with high pressures and have tiny pinhole orifices, they'd never work with submersible pumps and clog quickly, unless they have some other product like the Delevan's that I haven't seen yet...

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poindexterous

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Just received the nozzles. Apparently the color coding is still the same as the 4's that I just got are literally the same exact color, size, and shape of yours.
I'll post a few pics and results in a few days when I get this setup.
Seems like a good size to go with, the larger ones would us a lot of GPH, unless someone only needed to run a few of them...
 

puffntuff

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I'm using an iwaki pump with 36ft head. Non submersible. Do you think the nozzles your using would work with my system??
 

stems&seeds

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I shy'ed away from the T nozzles as I tried them in the past with little success. By the looks of it you've really done a lot of trial and error with this. Much appreciated.
 

stems&seeds

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36 ft of head is pretty high. How many nozzles you plan on runnin on that system? I too am playing around with different pump sizes. I'd imagine you'd be able to power quite a large system with that much pressure.
Somebody feel free to chime in, this is relatively new territory for me as well. My only concern is damage to the pump due to too much back pressure, in other words the pump may be too strong for the application leading to premature failure.
 

poindexterous

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I'm using an iwaki pump with 36ft head. Non submersible. Do you think the nozzles your using would work with my system??
36ft is 15.6psi, it would run them great, just need to match the right number of nozzles. The more nozzles the lower final pressure to them.

The WRW4's deliver about 10gph at 10ft head, so if you know any pumps gph at 10ft head just divide it by 10 to know how many WRW4's it will run. Of course running fewer nozzles at higher pressure will make even finer droplets, so running fewer is great, just not many more as I'd guess 8ft head pressure is about the least the WRW's will function well with.
 

poindexterous

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Ok, so based on everything in this thread so far I think this should be a good general formula to get anyone started with these Delevan WRW's, still lots of room for fine tuning but this should at least provide a ballpark estimate.

Pick any WRW nozzle, divide it's 20psi GPH rating in half, then divide your pumps GPH rating at about 10ft head by that, and there's your estimate.

For example my Danner/Supreme Mag-Drive#7 is a 700gph pump but at 10ft is rated 125gph since it's close to it's max pressure, it'll do 225gph at 9ft, 300 at 8ft. A WRW4 is rated about 17gph at 20psi, so half is 8.5, divide it into any of those numbers, so anywhere from 15 to 30 WRW4 nozzles should be able to run with my Danner#7. The fewer nozzles the higher pressure and finer droplets, the more nozzles the more efficient the system, but again too many nozzles and they won't function due to low pressure. There's not really any problem running fewer nozzles, just little to gain if the pump is near max pressure, for example my Mag#7 hits 0gph at 12.5ft head so fewer than a dozen WRW4's probably wouldn't result in much better spray pattern, just wasted pump potential, no harm though, most mag drive pumps have no problem running at max head so really you could run as few as desired. Hope this helps.
 

poindexterous

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So poindex I'm good with what I'm doing?? 16 wrw4's red color??
Hey Puff, What's your pump? Do you know it's gph at 10ft head?

I'm confident these are a nozzle of great potential but I'm just hesitant to give any hard numbers since I still haven't done all the testing I'd like to on these. It's still wide open to experiment...
 

puffntuff

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Iwaki MX-70VT-15L Water Pump

Japanese pressure rated water pump.
1 inch MPT inlet and outlet.
1/4 HP Motor output.
3300 RPM motor speed.
Max flow 35.6 GPM.
1450 GPH at 6 feet of head.
Max head 36.1 ft.
Does this help??
 
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