Ben Affleck v. Sam Harris on Real Time with Bill Maher

OGEvilgenius

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Yeah, and you think your ideas > someone elses ideas. For all you know Jesus is coming down tomorrow to save us all and Allah will be riding on a pale horse behind him ready to chop his head off in the ultimate religious show down. While this is not likely, you don't actually know. But you pretend that you do. Which is absolutely no different than anyone else who you have deemed to be 'wrong' or 'bad'. You also seem to think you can wholesale criticize an entire group and not expect a group think type of response. Humans don't work like that. The herd tends to protect itself. Manipulators understand this. Manipulators are the real problem. And those who are easily led around by them. Which constitutes most of the human race - which I'm fairly certain is doomed to a very dark future at this point, but maybe that's just my own biased perception.
 

Padawanbater2

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Yeah, and you think your ideas > someone elses ideas. For all you know Jesus is coming down tomorrow to save us all and Allah will be riding on a pale horse behind him ready to chop his head off in the ultimate religious show down. While this is not likely, you don't actually know. But you pretend that you do.
Ideas are not attached to people, beliefs are. I'm sufficiently able to criticize any bad idea I deem bad through lack of evidence, lack of reasoning or lack of logic and I have the reasonable expectation of not being labeled a racist or bigot for doing so. Again, criticising bad ideas, religious or not, doesn't make someone a bigot.

Which is absolutely no different than anyone else who you have deemed to be 'wrong' or 'bad'. You also seem to think you can wholesale criticize an entire group and not expect a group think type of response.
I'm not criticising any group, I'm criticising the dogmas of organized religion, understanding the distinction is important for this discussion.

Humans don't work like that. The herd tends to protect itself. Manipulators understand this. Manipulators are the real problem. And those who are easily led around by them. Which constitutes most of the human race - which I'm fairly certain is doomed to a very dark future at this point, but maybe that's just my own biased perception.
I'm not arguing people are easily led, I'm arguing the ways in which people are easily led are bad for humanity, namely, organized religion..
 
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