Bagseed & Rubbermaid Grow Box

Discussion in 'Grow Journals' started by Spittn4cash, Feb 23, 2007.

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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    Im a man of very few words but plenty of pictures so I will be posting pics of my progress every other day. First set of pics are of my grow box. I will include construction details also.

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    ^I aligned the inside of the Box with reflective Mylar^
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    ^Built my own Cfl Hood out of a cardboard box and more Mylar^
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    ^Suspended the Light from the lid of the box^
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    ^Cut out hole on side for fan/exhaust^
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    ^Every Grow Box needs a fan for air circulation^

    and thats it for the grow box!

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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

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    ^I start my seedlings off in Jiffy Cube #7 Peat Pellets^
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    ^When they get older Im planting in Miracle Gro Moisture Control Potting Mix^
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    ^Since my soil mix is already ferted I will only be feeding this Miracle grow 15-30-15 Blooming Fertilizer^

    Time to get started!

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    bigtdawg1234

    bigtdawg1234 Active Member

    looks good man, ima newb also but i heard that miracle grow ph is 5.0 so you might wanna make sure ur ph is gonna be alright
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    I germinated by first lightly sanding the seeds with a nail file for approximately 30 seconds - 1 minute. I do this by taking about 5 seeds, make a cup with my hand place the seeds in the "cup" and lightly rub the file over them.

    Some seeds needs to have the surface of their shells scratched or nicked inorder to wake the seed up from its sleeping period called dormancy. once water gets into the scratch it triggers hormones that causes the seed to awake and begin germination.

    Next I soak the seeds in a cup of water. I simply get a coffee mug, fill it half way with melted snow, or rain water and sit it on top of my surround sound amp, which keeps it warm. I only leave them in there until most of them have sunk to the bottom. When I have a good feeling that most of them will sprout then I use the paper towel method to germinate seedlings.

    I use a coffee mug bcuz it stores heat better than other types of cups, and I use melted snow bcuz, well hey its wintertime in Ohio and we got plenty of free snow, so why not?

    My germination method is not different than what you would read -
    2 paper towels, 2 plates...
    I fold one paper towel in half and sit it on the plate. I take the coffee mug thats halfway full of rain water and seeds and dump half the water on the paper towel, pick out the seeds with a spoon and set them in a circle on the paper towel...
    I then take the other paper towel, fold it in half and simply place it overtop of the seeds, I lightly sprinkle the remaining water over it just until i start to see the form of the seeds thru the paper towel..if I added too much I'll just add another folded paper towel to the top layer, but the important point is to make sure the paper towels are fairly damp..and then I put the other plate on top.

    I stick that next to the vent in my room bcuz seeds only need to be at room temp to germinate..10*deg too low and its too cold...10*deg too high and they'll probably cook!

    and after the taproot sticks out about 1/4 of an inch I plant into my jiffy cubes, and place the cubes into the "jiffy dome" with the lid on it for humidity. I stick that next to my heat vent so its constantly just above room temp, and wait...

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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

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    ^this is what I got 24 hrs later^

    Plant A
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    ^all 4 of my sprouts had cotyl's and a very tiny pair of true leaves^

    Plant B
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    ^but they're survivors!!^

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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    actually the ph is closer to 6.5...
    Miracle Gro is composed of 60% Peat moss, 25% Perlite, 14.58% forest products compost (coir fiber and wetting agents), .21% Nitrogen, .07% calcium phosphate, and .14% potassium sulfate..and of course everyone knows that peat moss is pretty much neutral on the PH scale..if this were years ago when they used "soil" in miracle gro I probably wouldnt have used it...but I trust that my girls will be fine in that. But thx 4 the concern
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    less than 12 hours later and look how much my babies have grown!..I also notice that the white root was sticking out of the bottom of the jiffy pellet, so I decided to go ahead and plant them in 6" pots full of MG moisture control potting mix.

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    Plant A
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    VictorVIcious

    VictorVIcious Well-Known Member

    Lookin good. keep it going. Remember the hard part for the next three weeks or so will be keeping your hands off the plants. Concentrate on providing a balance of the 7 things plants need to thrive. Keep it positive. VV
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    I love watching them grow...check out the true leaves

    Plant C

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    Plant A
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    Plant B
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    VV I couldnt have made it this far without your guidance, so I give a great thanks to you. I'll be sure to do my best to help them thrive!
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    Quick pic update after their first watering today...even the smallest one is showing some good growth.

    Plant A
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    Plant B
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    Plant C

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    Plant D

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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    My Plants are on a 24/0 Light cycle.
    I am feeding them co2 by mixing Vinnegar and Baking Soda.
    Temp stays at 77*F
    Humidity was 48% for first couple days, but I sat a glass of water in there to raise it now its at 59% RH
    Soil PH 6.7
    (Rain)Water PH 6.9
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    Firsttimerrr

    Firsttimerrr Active Member

    all i have to say is wow, your plants are rollin!!!!
    A and B are growing super fast, but C looks like its dieing
    Nice work
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    g00sEgg

    g00sEgg Well-Known Member

    Eh...c isn't dying...just recovering, i think she'll pull through
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    New Growth since my last pics this morning:

    Plant A
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    Plant B

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    Plants C & D
    Both are "late sprouters"..they did everything later than A&B. C&D were both smaller seeds, they dropped their shells later, and their cotyl's opened up later also. and if U notice, they both have one little cotyl and one big cotyl, and that wouldve been an issue if I didnt keep my lights so close, but I had them just close enough so that the plants didnt have to stretch and if U look you can clearly see the growth in C & D

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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    Plant C 3 Days Ago
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    Plant C 2 Days Ago
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    Plant C 1 Day Ago
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    Plant C
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    ^^See the little light green "nubby" thing in the middle, thats new growth, its growing its second set of leaves.

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    g00sEgg

    g00sEgg Well-Known Member

    Lookin good spittin...keep it up!
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    thank you both for your responses + rep to both of U!
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    No pix this update, I gotta get ready for this interview Im going on.
    But I raised the humidity to 65% and these babies really took off going! I dunno if its common, but my soil seems to dry out quickly thanks to the fans and lights..does watering every 3-4 days sound normal? I get so excited and wanna add some nutes to the water just to see if they will grow faster, but im trying to remember..patience pays off in the end..
    I'll post new pix after my interview
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    Spittn4cash

    Spittn4cash Well-Known Member

    for some reason the tips of my plants are curling up, crunchy and browning..i did a little research and found a couple causes for this

    1. Nute burn
    2. Lights too close
    3. Poor air circulation
    4. pH too high or low

    i immediately thought "something's wrong with the MG, but if there are too much nute in here then i should just be able to do a flush right? well the MG might be too acidic pH-wise also...well my tap water is 8.0.."

    so i decided to flush with tap water, took the book from under my plants which dropped them another inch away from the light and set the fan speed up to the next level.

    all these changes are gonna cause them to stretch majorly in all directions, which is kinda what im going for..

    i'll update u guys 2morrow with pics n all, my gf stopped over today after my interview (which went ok....nothing promising) so we decided to roll a nice fatty and chill for the night, and nothing comes b4 the misses.
    thats it 4 the night peace..
    and if theres something else that could be wrong feel free to give any advice, or if there are any other solutions, comments or questions ask away...
    thx 4 stoppin by..
    S4$

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