B.H.O is in the House!!

dbkick

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pharmacoping, I think just the person I was looking for, I just bought a tamisium.
Odd, wax is nasty? oh well. I was just going to ask you how I get that wax consistency as opposed to an oil.
 

dbkick

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awesome! talk about stopping a conversation!! its because I'm not from the great state of Michigan isn't it :(
I know , but I have been there and I was born right next to there so this vacuum purging, and heating and whipping must have something to do with consistency .
 

cephalopod

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I will ceph. I'm definitely curious. Just wondering *why* it's better than hash.

I'll ask again .... is it just a different means of extracting the same thing, or is there something else I'm missing?
Yeah just a different means and I would say with a very substantial amount less plant material. My oils turn out clear and tasty. IMO butane extraction is far easier than other methods and produces great results. While the potency jump may seem trivial it's really closer to a 25% increase when look at those numbers. I think most good oils will test 80-90% but can go into the 99th percentile in purity.
 

gladstoned

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stow, I do not have the link. From what I can remember there are two good labs in michigan. One is lansing and one in TC. I checked it out good, but can't remember. Anyway I think bubble is bad ass, but you arent' going to run a half pound through 1 gallon bubble bags. lol. I think this will be easier, more potent, and will be a much better return.
 

gladstoned

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awesome! talk about stopping a conversation!! its because I'm not from the great state of Michigan isn't it :(
I know , but I have been there and I was born right next to there so this vacuum purging, and heating and whipping must have something to do with consistency .
Dude, no offense, but we have a really tight knit community going here. We all stick together and you don't catch us all arguing like I hear about on other sites. It's give and take on the michigan forum. It's like we know what each other are gonna type, before we even type it.

Just bullshitting with you. You asked the one person who has a tamisium about one and he isn't online. I think if you go through all the threads you will find that we will argue with people from anywhere.
 

gladstoned

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Stow did you watch the weed nerd where sub went to portland and they were taking the entire harvest and running that shit into oil. Like 25-30 episodes ago.
 

dbkick

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Dude, no offense, but we have a really tight knit community going here. We all stick together and you don't catch us all arguing like I hear about on other sites. It's give and take on the michigan forum. It's like we know what each other are gonna type, before we even type it.

Just bullshitting with you. You asked the one person who has a tamisium about one and he isn't online. I think if you go through all the threads you will find that we will argue with people from anywhere.
Dude but I swam in a lake in Michigan when I was a kid, it was badass btw! oh that's why this is there!! https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/534452-argueing-needs-stop.html , due to close knit, haha, just bullshitting with you. Notice though I capitalize Michigan every time, this is due to respect for EVERYONE EVERYWHERE !
 

jonnynobody

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I was concerned about butane until I realized I get butane through using a lighter so I say why not!! I believe I can taste the butane though in this batch which is runnier than all the other batches we've done. usually comes out glass and taste like flowers. Nice to see people interested in the oil! and from what i know oil is 40-60 per gram.
With a proper purge and at least 4x refined high quality butane, you should have ZERO butane taste. It takes a couple tries to master it but it's just a back and forth heat, purge, heat purge, until there are no more bubbles left. I usually purge at least 3-4 times. Takes some effort but quality oil is a beautiful thing. I truly believe once marijuana becomes more commercialized, oil will become the preference amongst the real enthusiasts. It takes a lot of raw material to make but it's a much more pure substance.
 

jonnynobody

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I'm with this. I just don't trust that the butane is harmless. Condensed is powerful stuff, good medicine for some..but I'm leery of butane...
Just think of all that cheap butane you're inhaling with those $1 gas station taiwanese made lighters...

If you're using high quality butane and performing a thorough purge, you should have no butane left.
 

pharmacoping

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With a proper purge and at least 4x refined high quality butane, you should have ZERO butane taste. It takes a couple tries to master it but it's just a back and forth heat, purge, heat purge, until there are no more bubbles left. I usually purge at least 3-4 times. Takes some effort but quality oil is a beautiful thing. I truly believe once marijuana becomes more commercialized, oil will become the preference amongst the real enthusiasts. It takes a lot of raw material to make but it's a much more pure substance.

you're right, it will work, but dont for a second think that 4x purified means that the contents are pure butane, they are not. "5 times purified" means that the "solids" have been filtered out, so they wont clog your lighter. nothing to do with the gases inside. bubbles, heating, cooling, eyballing....not for the medical community, but I guess fine for the garage blaster

If you dont know the gases, and the temp at which they evaporate, and are monitoring the temps you're warming at..........

butane is non toxic, organic, and fda approved for food packaging. In your lungs it simply displaces o2, and does not cause toxicity, only fire.
 

pharmacoping

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All N-butane I use is precisely measured by weight, and is always in liquid state within the tamisium, and removed within minutes 100% from the product, evidenced by the checking weights of ttl oil/tane and weights of recovered tane.
 

pharmacoping

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Just think of all that cheap butane you're inhaling with those $1 gas station taiwanese made lighters...

If you're using high quality butane and performing a thorough purge, you should have no butane left.
That butane is not harming you, just keeping oxygen from entering while you breathe, and hardly noticeable. as soon as it feels an ambient temp, it evaporates, not absorbed by your body or lungs.
The flint strike dust is the killer in lighters, not the butane.
 

pharmacoping

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pharmacoping, I think just the person I was looking for, I just bought a tamisium.
Odd, wax is nasty? oh well. I was just going to ask you how I get that wax consistency as opposed to an oil.
well, first lets define "wax". there are real "waxes" in our plant material. "Wax" may be a slang term for an extract, but in reality, some really is wax. The extract objective is to obtain pure oil, not wax, cholorophyl,and other non goodies. If you're smoking real wax, yuck.

Now if you want a different consistancy extract, other than the pure oil, it will have to be chemically changed with temperatures, plant material, wax, chlorophyl, etc. Matt rize is the tutor on this subject, as he only uses ice water extractions. I'm guessing he also freezes the extract in an attempt to filter out some of the no desired constituents.

freezing, warming, drying, curing etc should give you what you're looking for, but water extractions will give you real "wax" and also be true to the slang term "wax" .

hope this helps. heating oil extract will almost immediately remove the terpine profile form the oil, losing those beautiful fulll bodies flavors and fragrance, and I suspect medicinal qualities also.
 

dbkick

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well, first lets define "wax". there are real "waxes" in our plant material. "Wax" may be a slang term for an extract, but in reality, some really is wax. The extract objective is to obtain pure oil, not wax, cholorophyl,and other non goodies. If you're smoking real wax, yuck.

Now if you want a different consistancy extract, other than the pure oil, it will have to be chemically changed with temperatures, plant material, wax, chlorophyl, etc. Matt rize is the tutor on this subject, as he only uses ice water extractions. I'm guessing he also freezes the extract in an attempt to filter out some of the no desired constituents.

freezing, warming, drying, curing etc should give you what you're looking for, but water extractions will give you real "wax" and also be true to the slang term "wax" .

hope this helps. heating oil extract will almost immediately remove the terpine profile form the oil, losing those beautiful fulll bodies flavors and fragrance, and I suspect medicinal qualities also.
Thank you for clearing that up, I kinda thought that's probably what you meant , plant material waxes.
 

jonnynobody

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You sir, are full of useful information.

BTW, I've made some cruddy batches that produced ear wax and budder which were imperfect batches of BHO but goddamn, it still fucks ya around plenty good.

I remember my first batch I ever did with some good popcorn nuggies...I had 6 or 7 pieces of parchment paper in my freezer with nice big blobs of BHO smeared on them. Break off a nice little piece of shatter and pop it in a bowl or smear it on a paper and twist one up. Either way...it was wonderful month I had melting all that down.
 

pharmacoping

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You sir, are full of useful information.

BTW, I've made some cruddy batches that produced ear wax and budder which were imperfect batches of BHO but goddamn, it still fucks ya around plenty good.

I remember my first batch I ever did with some good popcorn nuggies...I had 6 or 7 pieces of parchment paper in my freezer with nice big blobs of BHO smeared on them. Break off a nice little piece of shatter and pop it in a bowl or smear it on a paper and twist one up. Either way...it was wonderful month I had melting all that down.
thats so cool, I stored mine the same way forever, till she wanted to put food in there instead !!!

Today I syringe it up and inject them into (1g) dose pyrex screw top vials, give all patients a gifted vaap like this..

very slick
 

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jonnynobody

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thats so cool, I stored mine the same way forever, till she wanted to put food in there instead !!!

Today I syringe it up and inject them into (1g) dose pyrex screw top vials, give all patients a gifted vaap like this..

very slick
So this is what envy feels like lol
 

Trichyn9ne

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Harvested 1 ak48 and 1 headband girl. Made some glass honey oil...not really my favorite. I prefer a bit more like butter;-) Still wrecking it when my hip flares up and creates discomfort. Just milked one out on cam for ya! And a few ak48 popcorn buds.
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tomcatjones

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BHO is out for me.

i'll smoke it if it's around. but i WILL NOT BUY IT.

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  • I was concerned about butane until I realized I get butane through using a lighter so I say why not!!​




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not sure who said that.. but i don't even use lighters anymore... HEMP WICKS. clean, long lasting, easy to pass, solves the problem of people stealing your lighters too, lol.

gets rid of those nasty headaches from the butane, the taste is way better. and the resin when its all said and done and you clean it out, won't taste like butane either so that is another plus.

get rid of the poison. but of course my fav is RSO - 99percent alcohol distilled -using glass or quartz and a pipe.

my vapor globe is nice but best used for Fullt melt hash... which again.. i'll take over BHO anyday!
 
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