Are hermaphrodite seeds viable?

I have been growing an awesome OG Kush for several years and unfortunately had to move to a new location. I had extreme temperature variations (over 20deg F) for the first round at the new location. Every plant turned hermie and I now have more seeds than I can grow in a lifetime.
The seeds are big, dark brown, tiger striped and appear to be very nice looking.
Any experts on this?
I will be trying out a round this week but was hoping I could get some feedback from an expert on seeds from hermaphrodited plants before I waste any time unnecessarily.

Filled with seeds

Thanks for the help.

Seeds from a self pollinated plant will carry hermaphrodite traits. The seeds you have now will most likely express hermaphrodite traits.

Know One said:

I have been growing an awesome OG Kush for several years and unfortunately had to move to a new location. I had extreme temperature variations (over 20deg F) for the first round at the new location. Every plant turned hermie and I now have more seeds than I can grow in a lifetime.
The seeds are big, dark brown, tiger striped and appear to be very nice looking.
Any experts on this?
I will be trying out a round this week but was hoping I could get some feedback from an expert on seeds from hermaphrodited plants before I waste any time unnecessarily.
Filled with seeds
Thanks for the help.

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A friend of mine had this happen to him and he grows rooms for cannabis clubs and had basically a whole room full of weed get ruined by a hermy plant. From what he told me the seeds when made this way basically carry a bad genetic fault to have high chances of hermying which is why a lot of forums say don't grow them or don't share them in order to not spread the bad genetics. I grow for fun so I took a bunch of those seeds and grew a bunch myself. I had a few hermy on me but i caught them early before they could pollinate my rooms and i also got some nice Females that didn't hermy that produced AWESOME bud. I would assume you just don't want breed using those plants because they carry that high hermy possibility into any new seeds they produce. I say grow them and just be extra vigilant for any that hermy or banana. As long as you keep a eye out you should be fine in truth out of 150 seeds i have about 20 hermy on me and about 50 males. every plants different but i hope this helps this is just my experience i'm no seed expert.

I still have like 600+ seeds that he gave me i plan on growing all of them.

Wow. I'm facing this issue right now. I've got a plant that's just thrown some bananas. Don't know why. Maybe the repot caused it. Didn't look to be stressed. No wilting or anything.

Anyway. I did want to try breeding. But not so sure about using hermied genetics though.

The plant is lanky. And has very little bud. It's mainly stem and a few leaves. It's just weird over all. So, probably not a good candidate for breeding anyway.

Sorry to thread jack.

Something here. Had a hermie pollinate the entire room. I'm having a really hard time getting seeds now that most seed banks don't except MasterCard anymore, so I planted 20 "hermie" seeds. Some og, nlxbb, bigbud, cheese, all pollinated from a hermie aurora indica. They grew like crazy! Three weeks into flower I've cut half of my 3' plants and thrown em in the trash. Nothing like a room full of plants reduced by half instantly. All of which by the way we're building huge beautiful buds! Now it's eyes on looking for ball sacks. NEVER AGAIN! I gatta find a good seed bank...

Coloradoclear said:

Seeds from a self pollinated plant will carry hermaphrodite traits. The seeds you have now will most likely express hermaphrodite traits.

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You need to read another thread going on the subject.

Have you grown herm seeds? Be honest. Or are you just repeating what you read?

Know One said:

I have been growing an awesome OG Kush for several years and unfortunately had to move to a new location. I had extreme temperature variations (over 20deg F) for the first round at the new location. Every plant turned hermie and I now have more seeds than I can grow in a lifetime.
The seeds are big, dark brown, tiger striped and appear to be very nice looking.
Any experts on this?
I will be trying out a round this week but was hoping I could get some feedback from an expert on seeds from hermaphrodited plants before I waste any time unnecessarily.

Filled with seeds

Thanks for the help.

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Grow away.


https://www.rollitup.org/t/hermies-most-have-no-idea.936688/

I also have grown many herm and self pollinated seeds.
I make reg and fem seeds. I also have a couple landrace strains that throw pollen and will have a few seeds.

Research shows that there is an amino acid responsible for it. Its not a matter of breeding that trait out. Its a matter of where that threshold for each strain falls and all are capable of it.

whitebb2727 said:

I also have grown many herm and self pollinated seeds.
I make reg and fem seeds. I also have a couple landrace strains that throw pollen and will have a few seeds.

Research shows that there is an amino acid responsible for it. Its not a matter of breeding that trait out. Its a matter of where that threshold for each strain falls and all are capable of it.

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That sounds like it makes sense. I have read and done allot of research, and have found a shit ton of contradictions on the subject.
Something with research and science to back it up is just what I am looking for. Thanks for the tip.

Know One said:

That sounds like it makes sense. I have read and done allot of research, and have found a shit ton of contradictions on the subject.
Something with research and science to back it up is just what I am looking for. Thanks for the tip.

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There are true hermaphrodite and then male expression in female plants. True herm are not as common as just male expression.

There is a chance it is a true herm and the offspring will have a higher chance of being herm. Even then its like 30 something percent chance.

If it is bought weed I would wager it was good genetics and just stressed somehow and the offspring will likely be female.

If it is nothing but seed I might steer clear of it.

Thanks for the info @whitebb2727 this makes me much more confident to use the pollen from the lanky one now.

Some fem seeds are made by rodelazation. Not sure of the spelling. Basically the plant knows it didn't get pollen. In a last ditch effort it will throw pollen to pass on its genetics.

A lot of strains will do it. Leave a lower bud or two and set in a corner and leave it to over ripen.

whitebb2727 said:

There are true hermaphrodite and then male expression in female plants. True herm are not as common as just male expression.

There is a chance it is a true herm and the offspring will have a higher chance of being herm. Even then its like 30 something percent chance.

If it is bought weed I would wager it was good genetics and just stressed somehow and the offspring will likely be female.

If it is nothing but seed I might steer clear of it.

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Showing male expressions with females is hitting the nail on the head.
I will keep some of these seeds as backups, and did plant 4 today in 1" X 1" RW cubes just for my own little experiment. I'll post in a journal as they start popping in a few days.
I am also expecting seeds any day from Bodhi (Goji OG, Jabbas Stash, and Jungle Spice). I will be keeping journals for each strain. Thanks again for the very helpful info.

Fair enough. So male plants are kinda pointless in a way. Unless you're looking to add new genetics to the fray.

Know One said:

Showing male expressions with females is hitting the nail on the head.
I will keep some of these seeds as backups, and did plant 4 today in 1" X 1" RW cubes just for my own little experiment. I'll post in a journal as they start popping in a few days.
I am also expecting seeds any day from Bodhi (Goji OG, Jabbas Stash, and Jungle Spice). I will be keeping journals for each strain. Thanks again for the very helpful info.

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Cool. I've seen several journals over the last 3-4 years here. They turned out fine. There were some herm but not in huge numbers. Averaged 25-30 percent roughly.

whitebb2727 said:

You need to read another thread going on the subject.

Have you grown herm seeds? Be honest. Or are you just repeating what you read?


Grow away.


https://www.rollitup.org/t/hermies-most-have-no-idea.936688/

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Alot of people have no idea the difference between forced herm and genetically Hermed. 92 og aka ghost og aka og kush is the Hermed mom on a lot of plants kurple fantasy and bubba kush just to name two off top the head. People just believe what they see and dont look up the difference.

whitebb2727 said:

You need to read another thread going on the subject.

Have you grown herm seeds? Be honest. Or are you just repeating what you read?


Grow away.


https://www.rollitup.org/t/hermies-most-have-no-idea.936688/

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So if you grow, you have definitely popped a bean from bag seed. It is probably how all of us started. A lot of bag seeds come from hermed plants. If you are lucky, the hermed plant pollinates another female and didn't self pollinate. If it self pollinated then your chances of the seed herming is greater. Seed availability is the highest in history, why would you run seeds with a high probability of herming?

Coloradoclear said:

So if you grow, you have definitely popped a bean from bag seed. It is probably how all of us started. A lot of bag seeds come from hermed plants. If you are lucky, the hermed plant pollinates another female and didn't self pollinate. If it self pollinated then your chances of the seed herming is greater. Seed availability is the highest in history, why would you run seeds with a high probability of herming?

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Why?
Because I've bought seeds from all over and I still end up running bag and brick seed I have.

What does that tell you?

It tells you that just because you buy a seed doesn't mean its better or less likely to herm.

You also don't know your strain history. A lot of good strains came from bag seed.

As I said. Research is showing complete opposite of what we think. Its not a trait that's bred out.

Not everyone has access to buying seed. And not everyone wants to take the risk that they either won't get the seeds they order- either because the company is dodgy, they got confiscated by customs. Or some c#nt fucken stole them.

Or. They plain just don't germinate.

Seeds aint really that cheap either man. Not when for some. You're looking at a good $34 for just one. Even when they're $10 a pop. That still works out to be a fair amount if you want 10-20 seeds.

That's why some of us grow with bag seed. And how do you know you're not sitting on the next big thing unless you give it a shot.

Remember. There weren't always seed banks to buy from. These killer strains had to come from somewhere. And I betcha my left nut that at least one was an accidental discovery from a humble bag of green.

Coloradoclear said:

So if you grow, you have definitely popped a bean from bag seed. It is probably how all of us started. A lot of bag seeds come from hermed plants. If you are lucky, the hermed plant pollinates another female and didn't self pollinate. If it self pollinated then your chances of the seed herming is greater. Seed availability is the highest in history, why would you run seeds with a high probability of herming?

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No again 2 different types of hermaphrodite.....Genetic which when Hermed will pass on its gene.....Forced Herm can come from a lot of shit most name colloidal silver as a way to make s1's aka self pollination aka feminized seeds( I can do this with a red led next to a stable flowering plant, extremely cold temps, huge temp swings, really any type of stress can cause a stable plant to Herm). When forced herm they do not pass on a Herm gene, when they are genetically hermaphrodite they pass on the gene. It's all in genetics books only in cannabis has this myth been made I swear @whitebb2727 too many misguided people and too many who take bro science instead of horticulture lol