Anyone good with BHO? Please help.

So my first try at making bho and I was using double boiler method with a skillet set to approx 150F. I checked on it 15 mins or so it was still bubbling fine so I left it alone another 15-20 mins (pyrex has been floating for total of 30-35 mins at this point) when I came back my glass dish was broken bho was floating in the water.

So I proceeded to dip a knife into the water swirl it around and collect all the oil floating in the water. I collected at much as I could and this is what I came up with:



My questions are even though it went in the water is it still good? If it is still good what is the best way to further purge it from here?

Yuck..too many people making bho hacking it.should be a closed loop system and oven vac.theres enough people in ri and ma that are doing it right and are more than happy to run material for a very small charge.
With that said maybe just do another double boiler method with your bho/ water mix?

I hate Pyrex.

Thanks for the advice Cheeba, I'll give the double boil method another shot.

As for people in RI/MA willing to help, I don't know of anyone I'm not very active in the community. I stay quiet between my two patients and enough for me to smoke, I'm not even maxing out my plant count just doing what I can. I have more trim on the way so if you could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Closed loop systems are just out of my price range right now and I was sitting on several harvests worth of trim so I figured I'd run it and be done with it.

I'm no pro by any stretch of the imagination just trying to do my thing. Patient asked if I could get or had any bho so I gave it a shot lol lesson learned. Find a better way.

to properly make bho costs a minimum of $2000 to get set up... if you cant do it properly then don't do it.


you want this

http://www.acrossinternational.com/Vacuum-Drying-Ovens_c18.htm

http://www.bhombtubes.com/Home_Page.php

http://www.capitolscientific.com/reagent-chemicals-and-lab-chemicals/pure-ethanol-190-proof-ethyl-alcohol

Imo ice wax is far better

https://www.rollitup.org/t/ice-wax-bubble-hash-with-matt-rize.367111/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-french-cannoli-hash-thread.648510/

Ahh the good ol' ice wax vs bho argument lol

Bho is so easy. People try to over complicate it so much.

Here it is very simply though but everything youd want to do.

Supplies:

Hot plate:$20
Pyrex: $20
IR thermometer:$25-$50
Mask:$25
Vac pump: $75-$500+
Vac chamber: $100-$2000+
Glass/SS mat. tube:$35-$200+
12pk Power5 butane:$35

Step 1: "run"

Pack the tube,SS mesh filter, then coffee filter (imo 2 max). set pyrex on hot plat on lowest setting, blast into pyrex (round is best for direct purge) OUTSIDE!!!!!

Wait until slow large bubble form.

Step 2: "pre purge"

Throw round bowl into vac chamber on no heat, vac til muffin falls on itself and cools til bubbling stops or gets cold enough to "souffle" and solidify. This makes it very workable. Wear gloves to break it up or use an SS butter knife.

Either take out and crumble onto slick sheet/pad/your prefered purging sheet. (Usually comes with vac chamber) or leave in pyrex for personal use/convenient storage.

Step 3: "PURGE"

Warm your vac chamber slowly to your desired temp with the concentrate on it. 95-110 for shatter 115+ for wax. Recommend not going over 125 but to each his own. Same in the wax vs shatter debate.

Make sure to wait long enough for it to reach desired temp. Check temp with IR thermometer.

Throw on vac lid and rip a deep vac. Keep going until the pump makes the "done" noise or until meter reads lowest possible vac between 27-29.5 in/Hg

First time through you can probably run the vac pretty long solid 25-45 minutes depending on chamber/size/amount of concentrate.

Let that sit at your desired temp for preferably 12-24 hours. some people even go 48+

Optional Step 4: "flip"

If you have a large thick slab you may want to flip it. Cut vac and let cool to room temp.

At this point it should be stable enough to handle. Pull off slick sheet, flip, place back in chamber.

Repeat step 3 until results are as desired.

I spent about $250 on my set up but that was because my friend already had an amazing vac from his previous jobs so it saved us about $100 on a cheap vac and is a $400+ vac so it was a very big come up. Either way i woulda paid around $350 for my entire set up if he didnt have the vac already and a few other things like the mask and pyrex which alot of people have. Also if outdoor in very well ventilated area masks arent life or death.

Also, closed loops are ideal but out of reach for the usual hash maker. Im in the process of making/sourcing one for my own runs.

I process anywhere from 100g-500g+ with the setup i have and i never worry about an explosion or fire because i know my surrounding and conditions.

Be safe and think before you act and youll quickly learn the right way.

I dont know why everyone makes it seem as if you cannot get clean purged bho without all that equipment...a glass tube some butane a coffee filter and pyrex.

small runs are not hard to purge without a vac and you can decarb it after just to be sure.

urban1026835 said:

I dont know why everyone makes it seem as if you cannot get clean purged bho without all that equipment...a glass tube some butane a coffee filter and pyrex.

small runs are not hard to purge without a vac and you can decarb it after just to be sure.

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agreed im no stickler. Ive smoked some NASTY bho/iso in my day. I personally believe sitting in traffic for a few minutes ONCE probably causes you to inhale 10x the "carcinogens" and "toxins" in even shitty purged bho and those chemicals are probably 10x worse for you as well.

For small runs even a mason jar and hand pump vac work. Ive gotten very very clean shatter from it. Took me and 2 friends to pump it up over the course of 25-30 minutes but it was worth it and mason jars hold vacs very very well.

Simple and for $25-$30 bucks for the hand vac and a mason jar which every smoker should have a few of you cant beat it.

I spelled it all out very clear. 20 min purge isn't doing anything FYI. I guess nobody likes to read.

25-30 minutes is just how long it would take us to pump the hand pump to the fullest vac we could pull. Wed then let it sit for a few hours and repump it for a minute or 2 every once in a while.

That was a while ago though.

Thank you for those of you who posted with idea's and were helpful in your posts.

To be clear, I did everything properly as far as going outside, blasting butane through glass tube into glass dish on an electric skillet set to lowest temp. I'm thinking the air temp and the temp of glass were too different and that may have been what broke my glass dish. Other than that I have no idea how it could have broke.

Where I failed I see is the vac purge. I only asked a handful of people but all of them said I could do it no problem without vac purge. Turns out they were partially wrong. You can do it no problem without a vac purge it simply won't be nearly as good.

What I ended up doing was what Cheeba said I put my bho back into a double boiler set up and left it for a while checking the temp and bubbles every so often until it stopped bubbling. The end result came out to be a sub par bho. Still smokes just fine in my glass rig and in my vape pen. Still gets me good and high, it just looks, feels, and is sub par. Lesson learned.

Thank you again to those who have helped. Toke on my friends.

Are you using pyrex??? And only pyrex?? Theres no reason your glass should have broken.

Next time turn on the hot plate then blast immediately on the pyrex it will cool the hot plate and pyrex and make the temp difference smaller.

Vacing is very important. Even if you only grab a mason jar and a hand pump. Its somethin and can get some clean product when running small batches.

The brand name was not pyrex. I don't remember what it was, Anchor maybe? It was just a baking dish that I had figured it goes in the oven at temps WAY higher than I would be using so it would be fine.

Thats crazy haha. Yeah i stick to pyrex. 2 extra bucks.

Like i said either turn it on right before you start blasting or blast tube into the pyrex then place it on the griddle when its off and turn it on so the heat slowly builds.

That last part can be slightly dangerous because a lot of hot plates have exposed connections so do this at your own risk.

Id personally recommend the first one. Just set it to low with the pyrex on and immediately start blasting.

You can also use a double boiler method with water or reptile sand to keep it below too hot of temps. But to each his own.

Let me know if you need any more help. Ill probably be making a thread of my specific process and tek with videos and