Any other Unitarian Universalits out there?

I find in strange that this word has not popped up in this thread. Spirit! Spitituall! spirituality! etc. correctly spelled or not lol. I'm by no means religious unless I say I'm religously spiritual! I believe in God!(whatever that word means to you?) sun,man in the sky,science, the world/universe's and everything in them.YOURSELF!. Yourself! Ppl need to give themselves more credit, and at the same time take responsibility for themselves and what they create. We are filled with limiting beliefs! I read a book last week called the attractor factor by joe vitale.(he also appears in the movie The Secret) Very profound. After reading it and destroying alot of my limiting beliefs without knowing it I've felt like the days after a awesome lsd trip or something. A whole new way of looking at everything.

This book will do nothing for you if you don't already believe that we are one and all connected, quantum physics, vibes and all that good stuff that makes us, us. Kinda like saying "weather you think you can or cannot" you are right!

Not just bits and pieces,but from cover to cover.I do not like reading what people think about God,when it comes from man.They like to put their thought into it rather than what the Bible says.I never could understand how when a book says one thing, people always try to make it read what they think.
Thanks for the +rep,and keep reading.OPH

old pothead said:

Not just bits and pieces,but from cover to cover.I do not like reading what people think about God,when it comes from man.They like to put their thought into it rather than what the Bible says.I never could understand how when a book says one thing, people always try to make it read what they think.
Thanks for the +rep,and keep reading.OPH

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Rather than what the bible says? the bible was writin by man! Even if they wrote what God,jesus said and did. They were writing what they/man thought. Nobody percieves things exactly the same, often very close, very very close but never the exact same. Just agreeing I suppose. I think we are all god.

I 've just read THE SECRET. I'm a follower of Norman Vincent Peale and his POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING, AND THE POWER OF PRAYER, and his POSITIVE IMAGING.
bible? Brothers, I teach it. I teach Sunday School, (No I am not really a beleiver in Protastant Christian beliefs) and I teach a Bible based class in Prison every thursday. An All Womens prison. Yea, I shock myself sometimes.
I teach the parts of the Bible that I do beleive and accept.

so no other sun worshipers out there?

One time a regular ole dude was visiting the barber.

They got into a discussion or arguement about God and Religion and Beliefs.

The barber argued
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD,
IF THERE WAS A GOD, IF GOD WAS REAL, WHY IS THERE ALL THIS MURDER AND POVERTY, AND HATE AND WAR?

The regular dude tired of arguing and did not respond. He got his hair cut and left.

After the dude was outside, he saw a long haired bum, walkling down the sidewalk,with long hair and a scragely beard.

He returned back into the barber shop, approached the barber and said

I JUST FIGURED OUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BARBERS. BARBERS ARE NOT REAL.
The barber said

HUH??? WHAT YOU TALKIN BOUT WILLIS? WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT???

The regular dude responded

IF BARBERS WERE REAL, WHY ARE THERE MEN WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET WITH LONG MESSY HAIR THAT NEED A SHAVE AND HAIRCUT?

The barber answered

WELL, THEY HAVE TO COME TO ME FIRST, SILLY. THEY HAVE TO SEEK ME TO GET A HAIRCUT.

The regualr dude responded

WELL, MAYBE YOU NEED TO SEEK GOD, TO SEE HE IS REAL TOO.

There's your answer.

KNOW God and you'll KNOW Jesus.

Anyone else read THE SECRET?

one problem tho rosman,



what would the barber have said if he has been claiming all his life that he has the power to cut every persons hair on earth with the snap of a finger.


then the real question to the barber would be, why have you not cut this poor mans hair? he has been suffering? for whatever reason why he has not come to you, why would u let him suffer like this?


what would the barber say then? Would he say: "I can cut his hair with a snap but first he must come kiss my rings?" or else im just gonna let him suffer?

why would he leave this man with such a fucked up hair cut? and if you are the man with all that hair and knew there was a man who could fix your hair with a snap of his fingers but still does not. What would u think of that man?

Big P,

I guess you just miss the point of the story and had to make up one.

Some people get it, and some don't.

well.. i kinda agree with big p on this one...
if i seek unicorns ...

Roseman said:

Big P,

I guess you just miss the point of the story and had to make up one.

Some people get it, and some don't.

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just saying,your above reply is not really the most convincing arguement to convince sombody to worship somthing and base thier whole life on it. wheres the beef?



I mean i could say some people get it and some dont, if I was selling shwag and claiming it was hydro

but the ones who "get it" are the dumb asses right?


im not trying to be a dick just wondering what the answer to my question was

I gave you the answer to your question. But I guess thats the whole thing, there is no proof of your claims so I can understand if you cant anwser the questions

I was just saying your seemingly inspiring anecdote is actually an irrasional deception. since we all know barbers are not all powerful and if they were I would hazard to guess that many or really most would use thier power to make everbodies hair beautiflly cut. but unfortunatly this "god" of yours doesnt seem interested in this type of generousity

so it confounds me, because I know the truth, which is. if there was an all powerful god who could do anything and he was good. he would make everything in the world good and make that mans free will

the simple fact that he doesnt means either 3 things:

He is not all powerful
He is not good
Or sadly he just plainly does not exist


now if u see the above 3 statments, can you advise if any of them are the TRUTH?

not to beat a dead horse


but even after all the points I made above, if u come to god and ask for help or a "hair cut"


he never shows up to help even, so its like the long haired bum going to the barber and begging him for a hair cut and most probably not even getting one.

instead his hair gets natted up and he drowns and dies in it, with no barber around still

but you still want us to worship the barber...... but why? whats the reason we should worship this terrible barber?

Since everyone interperets and puts information together differently, a group of people reading a book like the bible will result in many differences instead of bringing about something that can be shared and fully understood among the group. Why is it so difficult for people to collectively embrace this experience we know to be life and see it through their own eyes as an individual instead of reading a book and trying to find a connection through someone else's? Religion does help people in terms of developing a positive outlook, but it's a rediculous, foolish thing in that the positive outlook that's developed isn't that of their own.

..and yes- it matters.

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Since everyone interperets and puts information together differently, a group of people reading a book like the bible will result in many differences instead of bringing about something that can be shared and fully understood among the group. Why is it so difficult for people to collectively embrace this experience we know to be life and see it through their own eyes as an individual instead of reading a book and trying to find a connection through someone else's? Religion does help people in terms of developing a positive outlook, but it's a rediculous, foolish thing in that the positive outlook that's developed isn't that of their own.

..and yes- it matters.

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indeed,


It just bothers me that people would give so much homage to somthing that is clearly evil if it deed existed. "it" meaning "god"


imagine your child dying in your arms and I was sitting there looking at you guys and could have saved her life but did not do it and she instead dies


if I did that I would deserve to be spit on at the very least. and so does god if he does indeed exist but still lets them all suffer


but these people are so brainwashed when somthing happens terrible they just pray to the one who supposedly could have stopped this innocent death in the first place


thats pretty much worshiping the one who allowed your daughters horrible death

A member posts a thread, asking for and seeking Christian Universalist to visit, to chat and comment, and Non-Believers visit to attack someone else's faith !
Isn't that sort of rude and childish?


Mean people sux.

surf88 said:

So does anyone else share my belief that all the major Religions hold relevance in the world?

I think God knew that not all cultures would accept the same things. Which is why he has given so many different spiritual pathways to so many different cultures.

I'm not saying Scientology or something like that counts as religion since you must pay so much money just to have the ability of being a member.

But in general, The Great Eternal force(God) has a plan for all of humanity no matter what your creed.

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just replying to the original post rosman, the question was asked and people answered i cant see how that is rude or childish, i think its rather childish to be botherd by other peoples opinions, entertaining a thought should not send you to hell roseman, u dont have to be so close minded to where u want to slap yours eyes out from somthing you read and try to pretend its not there,

even the first poster is trying to rationalize the inconsistancy of religion and trying to justify it so they can further convince themselves that thier is a purpose and that thier death will be "all good" cuz there is a heaven

now whos the one being childish?

the first thread I saw said:

Any other Unitarian Universalits out there?

asking for them to respond. He doesn not ask for degbate or criticism, ask him. It is his thread.

Roseman said:

the first thread I saw said:

Any other Unitarian Universalits out there?

asking for them to respond. He doesn not ask for degbate or criticism, ask him. It is his thread.

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i submit you are prolly right about this thread, i admit i dont even know what Unitarian Universalits means


and i do seem to want to tear down peoples beliefs but only if it seems like they are strong enough to take it

i dont know why, i think its cuz i was once a catholic but was born again as an atheist and glad to be free of what i persieve to be lies, so in that way im am really trying to help others out like i feel i have been, and become more inlightened imo

wow being honest aint as bad as everyone makes it out to be

if there is a hell tho rosman put in a good word for me up in hevean man im a good person just dont trust that god guy, he screwed me over way to many times.


i saw a comedian ask last night "is there meat in heven?" i mean like u kill a cow eat it it goes to heven then u kill it again once u get up there to have a hevenly juicy steak?

and if thats not the case then is there only vegatables in heven? and if so then how can that be heven if u like to eat t-bones?

does God think its wrong for us to ask these questions?

does he undertand that since he gave us curiousity that we will question all these things?

so then how can he punish us for doubt due the curiousity that he forced upon us?

its time for a CSI of the mind

sombody lied