Any Canadians mixing up some super soil? Need some help finding a couple things.

Discussion in 'Subcool's Old School Organics' started by KidKid1950, Jul 3, 2013.

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    KidKid1950

    KidKid1950 Active Member

    Mainly looking for an equivalent for Roots Potting Soil that subcool uses. Something available here. I am very interested in giving Super Soil a shot. Just not sure what will work as opposed to the Roots, or if Subcool is even using Roots anymore.
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    GreenSanta

    GreenSanta Active Member


    PROMIX buddy! Sunshine mix is popular too I have only used Promix and it is a professional mix. Are you on the west coast?

    I can get this stuff at my hydrostore : http://www.welcomeharvestfarm.com/ their amendments are GREAT!
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    Shawns

    Shawns Active Member

    In Ontario theres not that many good organic potting soils I use promix with compost, lots of worm castings and a few extra things over and above subs recipe
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    sunni

    sunni Global Moderator Staff Member

    try going to a farmers market I buy mine from the farmers out here in Ontario , shit ton of little to nothing use it for all my gardens not too sure whats in it, but its good stuff, and I usually mix a bit of it with regular top soil for my mj to "dilute " it a bit I guess works well
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    Shawns

    Shawns Active Member

    Is it a bagged soil or sold by the yard, do you know if there are any amendments in it or maybe its just a compost mix of different manures from there farms and they thought fuck lets sell this shit lol
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    sunni

    sunni Global Moderator Staff Member

    its from the amish people they sell tons of goods like jam,fruits veggies, and stuff , and some of it is their soil mixes that they use for their own crops that they make. I wouldn't say 100% doesn't have some sort of shit in it, but I know the difference between a crap ton of shit and soil LOL
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    Shawns

    Shawns Active Member

    I have a couple markets near me I never even thought to try there but my dad and I use to go and I dont ever remember seeing soil but maybe I'll go this week just to see. If you dont mind what market do you go to I'm in southwestern ontario theres lots of markets but theres only a couple I know of where the amish sell there goods
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    sunni

    sunni Global Moderator Staff Member

    im in northern Ontario so no where near you I pick up all my amish fare (lol) on st. joesphs island, everyone buys their soil its like their biggest seller. LOL
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    Shawns

    Shawns Active Member

    Thats cool I'll go to the ones I know and if they don't have it I'm sure they could point me in the right direction
    Are you going to hempfest I'm going to try to put together some TGA gear if I can and a bunch of other stuff pipes,bongs, bubble bags and whatever else I can get my hands on so I can put a booth together since venders are free
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    sunni

    sunni Global Moderator Staff Member

    no I went when I was in highschool ....just fyi the bathrooms are disgusting bring yourself some tp to shit in the bush like you have no idea how bad the bathrooms are there I would rather go to a dump and pee than go into those
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    Shawns

    Shawns Active Member

    Really thats horrible whats with theses people putting on the Cannabis events not just here but in the states too, you always hear things like that about bathrooms, food etc.
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    bigworm6969

    bigworm6969 Well-Known Member

    Thats so nasty and funny at the same time
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    KidKid1950

    KidKid1950 Active Member

    Thanks for the suggestions guys, lots of good information. Couple more questions now.

    - Which Promix do you guys use exactly? This stuff -
    http://www.rona.ca/en/professional-growing-medium-89465001

    - I see shawn adds things to his promix that are not in the recipe? Would I be required to do this if I did indeed use promix, or would it work fine without extra aditions above and beyond the recipe.

    - Is there an updated version of his recipe anywhere on this forum?

    Thanks for the help so far.
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    GreenSanta

    GreenSanta Active Member

    follow the recipe with whatever promix you can find is good. If it doesnt say mycorizzae on it, I would consider buying it and using it at transplant. http://www.gardenerspantry.ca/microorganisms/mycorrhizal-fungi.html

    you can take a look at my current recipe for ideas. It doesnt have to be exactly what sub used, u can substitute, play with it and make it your own.

    i cant tell difference between the 2 ... the amendments are from http://www.welcomeharvestfarm.com/ and from local nursery


    • SUPERSOIL 1

      3.8 cu ft promix
      1.1kg FlowerPower 10-4-10
      .375kg Canola Meal 6-3-1
      2cups Neem Cake 4-3-2
      2cups Guano 4-26-1
      2cups rock dust
      1.5 cup Alfalfa meal
      30 litres worm castings
      1cup Gypsum
      2 Tbsp Humic Acid
      2 Tbsp Activated EM
      2 Tbsp Epsom Salt (is this enough!?)

      SUPERSOIL 2

      3.8 cu ft promix
      1.1 kg FlowerPower 10-4-10
      2 cups fish meal 10-4-0
      1.5 cups Neem Cake 4-3-2
      2 cups Guano 4-26-1
      2 cups rock dust
      1.5 cup Alfalfa meal
      30 litres worm castings
      2 cups Gypsum
      2 Tbsp Humic Acid
      2 Tbsp Activated EM
      2 Tbsp Epsom Salt (is this enough!?)​




    Good luck
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    Shawns

    Shawns Active Member

    Yes thats the promix I use


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    NightOwlBono

    NightOwlBono Active Member

    If you live in/near BC reindeer natural sells good earthworm casting's and he imports neem seed meal (http://reindeersnatural.ca/)

    Gia green sells great amendments as well,and they have distributors all across Canada.

    you can make up your own roots soil with enough amendments,just start with a organic topsoil or potting mix
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    KidKid1950

    KidKid1950 Active Member

    Thanks again.

    So am I correct in thinking, that if I do go with pro-mix. I start my seeds (after germination) in just some normal pro-mix. After 3 weeks or so, transplant them into a pot that is half full of super soil, and half full of pro-mix?

    Should I PH my water while they are seedlings, and should I PH my water once they reach the super soil?
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    Shawns

    Shawns Active Member

    as a base soil I use promix,compost, wormcastings and some perlite works great
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    NightOwlBono

    NightOwlBono Active Member

    If your using fully organic amendments,soil,and liquid fertilizers(liquid kelp,fish emulsion,liquid beneficial bacteria)
    you don't need to worry about ph at all.

    but I'm going to mention you should either filter your tap water through carbon,or aerate your water in a bucket for 6-24 hours before use,this will remove the chlorine that will kill your benificial bacteria in the soil.

    also compost teas will really help your soil biodiversity
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    KidKid1950

    KidKid1950 Active Member

    I will be using RO water.

    Anyone have a link to his current recipe? I can only find information about his older ones (that use Rock phosphate). I guess my base soil will be Pro-Mix BX. I will need to add some extra coco I assume.

    I just plan to mix it all up as per his recipe. Not adding anything extra (until I get the hang of it). Would the water need to be PH'd just using his normal formula, and will it last right through flower, or will I need to buy a bunch of organic nutrients to use with it?

    Thanks for all the help.

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