Another Vero 29 grow

fobama

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After lurking for awhile, I decided that it's time to post what I've done.

This is my first grow and I'm doing it with a DIY Vero 29.

Started off with using the cheapest LED A19 light bulbs you could buy from the Home Despot. Had (20) 5000k A19 LEDs. You can pop off the diffuser globes pretty easily.

Then I built a 500w 4000k 80CRI Vero 29 for vegging. I used some Meanwell power supplies and totally splurged and went overkill on cooling and got some Coolermaster TX3 heatsinks. The heat spreader on the COB is pretty much perfectly sized for the TX3. The way I figure is that the cooler you keep the LEDs, the more light it'll produce and the longer the LEDs will last. Furthermore, if the fan or the fan's power supply failed, the heatsink would probably still keep the COB cool enough to not combust in flames.

Sure, you could save a little money and go with cheaper heatsinks, but why? I'm already saving tons of money and my all-in cost is only about $1/watt. Plus, they look really cool.

Initially, I made the 12/12 switch with only 500 watts of the 4000k COBs, but a few days later I was able to add 640 watts from (8) Vero 29's @2700k and 80CRI. I supplemented an additional 40 deep red Luxeon 3W LEDs, but plan on adding more.

As expected, the plants receiving the bulk of their light from the 2700k are exploding with bud sites. The 4000k plants look healthy, but have much less budding. As of Sunday 6/28, I added an almost identical additional 640w bar light.

I'm currently in Day 16 of flowering. There's a terrific canopy that's developed. I will be adding an additional 16 Vero 29 2700k LEDs running at 80w apiece. The current grow space is about 5.5x10.5 with 14 plants consisting of Afghan, Holy Grail, Pineapple Chunk, and Kosher Tangie. So I'll have 2560w in COB LEDs, and 258w worth of Deep Red (655nm) Luxeon ES LEDs. This will get me to the magic number of 50 LED watts per square foot.

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As you can see in the picture, I'm going to need some additional strip lamps on the sides. I'll add more pictures later.
 
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fobama

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Some of the additional modifications to the lights that I plan on doing are to add PWM for the fans and add a 12v relay that won't turn on the COB power supply unless the fans are also getting +12v.

The support structure is 1-1/4" square Al. tubing. I epoxy'ed some of the COBs, and drilled/tapped 3mm holes in others. In the future, I'll probably use thermal epoxy to avoid the labor of drilling/tapping holes in which to put 3mm computer screws into.
 

fobama

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impressive! Which reds are you using? What do you feel is the main benefit of adding them.

thanks man.
White LEDs are a bit weak in the deep red range (<650nm). I'm using the Philips Luxeon ES deep red (655nm) @ 1.61w. At least the 3000k LEDs are weak. Unfortunately, Bridgelux doesn't have a spectrum chart for the 2700k LEDs so I'm making an educated guess based on the Decor series. Furthermore, the Luxeon ES LEDs are something like 50% efficient, so they're actually more efficient than the COBs (37-40%). Only problem is that they're a PITA to solder and wire up.
 

testiclees

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I also have a small 2x4x5 tent for clones and seedlings made from Home Despot Chineseum LEDs. It's brighter than the pic looks, but it's still insufficient. I plan on doing 300w of Vero 29 4000k 80 CRI LEDs with a dimmer later on.
i have a ~320 w of vero 29, 4k in a ~2x4x6. using 4 cobs. they best be spread out real good.

Im adding 3500k 3590s to the space and looking to see if that addition covers the far red shortage.

Which driver is used to power the reds. Do the reds and cobs run on the same schedule?

Thanks for the details man.
 
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