an extended discussion on the making liquid organic nutrients

poplars

Well-Known Member
so I've been doing quite a bit of research about this and I'm trying to achieve a complete nutrient program that I can prepare myself, I have no problem purchasing raw materials.

now what I'm wondering about is, processes, ratios, and raw materials.

so far on the processes I know of 2 major methods for making liquid fertilizers...

aerated compost teas - more bacteria, decent nutrients available for instant uptake, while most remain in an insoluble state for the bacteria to eat. variety of bacteria allows for better breakdown of other nutrients you may be using....

fermented extracts, and fermented plant extracts... this is the one I am not quite as informed on. I know the basic process includes good water and good materials in a container for a week or two, at a good temperature to keep the process going.

my questions on this method is first off, can certain plants, guanos, manures, be fermented in certain ratios at the same time to achieve a particular brew that would last around a year without producing anything that would harm the plants?

if so, I would assume by looking up lists of natural NKP ratios of organic materials you could do a rough calculation of what would make a good veg fert and what would make a good budding fert.

are the fermented extracts essentially what all these organic companies are selling?(such as roots organics and others..)
 

ClamDigger

Active Member
well, here is a list i have found EXCEEDINGLY helpful, especially when brewing tea's for a specific time in the plants life, and when making soil.

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/426954-npk-values-soil-compost-additives.html

i like to make fermented Comfrey juice, i fill any container with shredded comfrey and pour enough rain (or dechlorinated) water to cover all the leaves. sometimes i add a dab of molasses to the water, i think it speeds things up a little.

another fave of mine is shredded kelp sauce :lol:
you collect as many Bull Kelp Stems as you can, and then grind them thru a cheese grater or blender (maybe) and let that sit for a few weeks, covered in water, stirring occasionally.

im not sure how long this will last, but the brewing process takes about a month, so you could have several brews going, started about a month apart, to keep your plants fed.
 

poplars

Well-Known Member
I've heard most fermented brews last about a year. not sure what exactly degrades after that though.

so I'm guessing the same process you'd take to do a plant fermentation you would do to do a bat guano fermentation?

I'm just wondering if this is what the major producers are doing.
 

Corbat420

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i have found that you can make your own fertilizers from local wastes relativity easily..... if you live in the right place. i live "in the bush" (not realy, but if i walk for 5 mins im in the boreal forests of northern BC....). sometimes its difficult to find fertilizers up here, and when you do its expensive..... so i make my own for Outdoor :D

Vegetative Fertilizer:
5 Gallon Bucket
Stinging Nettles
Broad Leafed Weeds (Marijuana leaves, Dandelion leaves, thistle leaves)
crush stinging nettles into a 5 gallon bucket untill its 1/2 way full. crush the juices out of them. (WEAR GLOVES, nettles suck...) then Crush Broad leafed weeds into the mixture.
Fill bucket with water and put lid on bucket. put the bucket outside in a place where it will not get direct sunlight (under a deck or porch, in a shed or other cool place) and let it sit for 6-8 weeks.
after you open it it sill smell BAD. put it in direct sunlight with an aeration stone in the mixture. this will kill much of the harmful bacteria.

Flowering Fertilizer:
5 Gallon Bucket
Bear Scat (poop...) harvested in the fall. MUST contain berry traces.
Saskatoon Berries
Soap Berries
Seaweed (roughly 1L)

fill the bucket 2/3 full of the ingredients. the more bear scat the better. crush the ingredients in the bucket untill it takes up only 1/2 the bucket. slowly add water and mix, it will turn into a thin mixture when the bucket is completely full with water. store in a cool place for 6-8 weeks and follow the same procedure as the vegetative fertilizer.

Soil Addatives:
i collect Bat Guano from a local cave on the side of a mountain. carnivorous bat guano = N
I get Seabird Guano from the rocks down at the lake. fish eaters = n/p/K
green sand and rock dust from the same mountain as the Bat Guano.....

http://www.lamotte.com/pages/edu/5880.html these are test strips for N/P/K. i ALLWAYS test my fertilizers to get a true reading on the total levels in them.
 
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