Amino Acids

Motherplant A&B from HDI is an excellent nutrient for veg. Its got aminos amd humics in it. And lots of calcium. Harley Smith formulated that one and its damn good. Carbs too. A nute company needs to make a one part 3-1-2 that has all the goodies in the bottle with calcium and mag plentiful and iron eddha chelates. Concentrated and priced rite. I would buy it. The nute companys know they can put humics fulvice vitamins crbs and aminos in a base but they dont. They want you to buy seperate bottles. Greedy bastards.

A solid base nute for coco coir (concentrated and for grow and bloom) with the bio stimulants and catalysts already in the bottle.....hard to find a good one. Ive been trying for years.

since1991 said:

Motherplant A&B from HDI is an excellent nutrient for veg. Its got aminos amd humics in it. And lots of calcium. Harley Smith formulated that one and its damn good. Carbs too. A nute company needs to make a one part 3-1-2 that has all the goodies in the bottle with calcium and mag plentiful and iron eddha chelates. Concentrated and priced rite. I would buy it. The nute companys know they can put humics fulvice vitamins crbs and aminos in a base but they dont. They want you to buy seperate bottles. Greedy bastards.

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and if you don't buy just 1 bottle or skip one in that line up your whole crop goes to shit.

budman111 said:

plants produce more Amino Acids than they will ever need, it is completely unneeded in bottle form, just curious but the noticeable improvement is in conjunction with what else to compare>?

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Its not needed but if you supply left turning aminos the plant can focus on other things to spend its energy on. Aminos chelate and process calcium iron and mag way more. The studies and research have been done. I used to think like you do. There is new info out there that says otherwise.

since1991 said:

With left turning glycine aminos and humic and fulvic acids.....your base nute iron magnesium amd calcium should be plenty for coco coir grows. Cal mag should not be needed or used way less.

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What amino suppliment are you using dude.

Liquid Karma is one of the best additives ive ever used in veg along with a base nute. But its ridiculously over priced and i stopped buying it years ago. If a nute company it put something like LK in a base nute formualted for coir and price it fair...damn. LK has it all really. But what a rip on the price.

Resinhound said:

What amino suppliment are you using dude.

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RAW ONIMA mostly. And the aminos in kelp amd bcuzz/greenfuse stimulators for now. Vitamino is good but man....these bottles are so pricey. Nute companys straight up robning people. Like i said....Liquid Karma is awesome. Never had mag iron or calcium problems when i used to use that. But fuk Botanicare. Silly bastards need to lower prices.

I dont like LK,ill check out the others though thanks man.

since1991 said:

RAW ONIMA mostly. And the aminos in kelp amd bcuzz/greenfuse stimulators for now. Vitamino is good but man....these bottles are so pricey. Nute companys straight up robning people. Like i said....Liquid Karma is awesome. Never had mag iron or calcium problems when i used to use that. But fuk Botanicare. Silly bastards need to lower prices.

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how long is a .5 pound of that stuff lasting ya? whats the dosage like? is the raw onima just aminos?

Yeah it is. I think i use like a quRter gram with the measuing spoon dealy RAW sells. Every other tank change out. On their website RAW Solubles they break it all down for ya.

But be warned. .msome of that dry powder RAW stuff can be had for WAY cheaper from a real ag company. Small operations it fine. But for bigger shows....go with the cheaper and in bulk companys.

since1991 said:

Its not needed but if you supply left turning aminos the plant can focus on other things to spend its energy on. .

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Left turning aminos LOL...sig of the week! Now I am a believer in sharing...

since1991 said:

Never had mag iron or calcium problems when i used to use that. But fuk Botanicare. Silly bastards need to lower prices.

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Resinhound said:

What amino suppliment are you using dude.

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MB Ferts has an EXELLENT powdered amino acid that uses .25 ml per gallon. Super cheap and super strong. I advise spraying til buds form then move to the resevore

I have used mbferts stuff. Its a bargain and works great. Down Detroit way

Sorry to resurrect but any change up in the amino acids everyone is using? Just saw a YouTube thing with Harley Smith and was thinking about picking up some of the raw amino stuff for flowering. About to enter my 3rd week of flower...

GreenBean 420 said:

Sorry to resurrect but any change up in the amino acids everyone is using? Just saw a YouTube thing with Harley Smith and was thinking about picking up some of the raw amino stuff for flowering. About to enter my 3rd week of flower...

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Kelp4less has a dry powder plant protein hydrolysate thats the same as RAW Omina but cheaper. I suggest using it as a foliar spray along with kelp..fulvic acid.. and yucca for a sticker. Once every 5 to 7 days in veg and early flowering. Then start using it in the root zone. With the chemical chelates in your base feed (edta..dtpa..eddha) and the natural chelation ability of fulvic and amino acids...your plants will probably not need any calmag supplement. Especially if you tap water is decent.

@since1991 is liquid karma similar to rhizotonic?

coreywebster said:

@since1991 is liquid karma similar to rhizotonic?

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It can promote roots...but its more of a general plant tonic and catalyst containing all the bio stimulants. It is watered down compared to something you can make on your own. Its effective but i quit using it regularly years ago. Rhizotonic although somewhat similar is more for profuse root development in early veg and transition from transplanting. Quite pricey for what it does...i still occasionally buy this now and then if i got the money. It certainly makes roots explode no doubt. There are other similarly effective methods and inputs that are inexpensive and do the same thing.

Mix a simple quality kelp powder with plant protein hydrolysate and fulvic acid with Dynagro KLN (IBA Auxin root promoter) and you would have something similar to Rhizotonic from Canna...minus the oligosaccharides.