America is fucked... Unless we legalize weed!

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PurpleBuz

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Olan said:
Wile I support your general enthusiasm for a worthy cause, America can never pay off the national debt. America currency is a FIAT debt based currency issued by a private lender bank, which in short means ever dollar that exists in the whole economy is owed to someone by someone else plus interest. And what makes it unaddressable is that ever dollar in existence was created with interest attached to it, so the money to pay the interest simply does not exist in the whole money supply because all that exists is the principle (original loaned amount). As such to even try and pay back the national debt would lead to america giving up all of its money, and still being in debt. The last time America paid off its national debt was 1837 under president Andrew Jackson, three monetary systems ago, back when it was mathematically possible to pay it off, back before money was created from debt.
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thats all correct EXCEPT true production of something of value and importance to society breaks the economic vicious crircle. examples are abundant. Cheap energy, cheap food, cheap manufacturing, cheap digital technology have all been major contributors that actually make a difference.
 
FreeStateLumpy

FreeStateLumpy

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It seems that these gutsy activists are DOING something about it... in the least unfree state, in the 50 ... [video=youtube_share;uU0vvisePWU]http://youtu.be/uU0vvisePWU[/video]
 
FreeStateLumpy

FreeStateLumpy

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They don't stop there... and they make the best and most valid points I've heard to date. Gutsy? Hell yeah. The guy in the leather jacket is looking at 82 years for distribution. He is Rich Paul from the 420 Foundation (420Foundation.org) Ian Freeman from FreeTalkLive.com and even a State "Representative". NH may just surprise the crap out of us all.
[video=youtube;HKgyMtCDU4o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKgyMtCDU4o&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Unfortunately, this country is too far in debt for cannabis to cover. The Federal Reserve debt-based banking system has to be eliminated, and there is a means to do this w/o throwing the economy into a major depression. The entire Federal Reserve Act was the biggest scam(upside-down pyramid scheme actually)to have ever been perpetrated on this country, and it has to end b/c it's going to end anyways. It is mathematically impossible for these type of economies to last forever, let alone a century or 2.
 
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silasraven

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no unless, im here to warn you, keep hold of your money, buy weapons invest in something that has a return. and get the fuck out when you can. it will get worse.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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silasraven said:
no unless, im here to warn you, keep hold of your money, buy weapons invest in something that has a return. and get the fuck out when you can. it will get worse.
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Use the weapons fund to grow cannabis, a product that will always have value in the global economy...then you create your own economy independent of currency.
 
FreeStateLumpy

FreeStateLumpy

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Okay, soooo, you ARE AWARE of BITCOIN, LITECOIN and other barter methods such as Shire Silver... right? I can tell you certainly that these barter methods are being used with regularity, daily all over the world. Moscow (yeah, they looooove their government there too) is the highest use place geographically in the world but I believe New Hampshire (I believe the least taxed, least regulated individuals in the fifty) these instruments are used daily... not just to starve the beast (govt aka the state) but to strike the root... the true root of all of the suffering... the money (monetary system). Please check out the Keene Bitcoin Network on Facebook, and other places if you like. I encourage you. No, I'm NOT a fed, but there are plenty around.
 
FreeStateLumpy

FreeStateLumpy

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I didn't mean to hijack this thread, and still don't. I do want to share something else too though. http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2013/04/15/Activist-Facing-81-Years-Admits-Selling-Pot-Seeks-Jury-Nullification

I also came back to edit this again to say that your Amerkia, is all that is left. Nazi dictatorship. Sometimes I give up all hope altogether. If you live or are going to be around New England, please make a special trip up to support this man. He IS NOW standing up for you. He IS you. He is me. Are you next if he isn't spared? Thanks and I hope to see you there.
 
1itsme

1itsme

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PurpleBuz said:
thats all correct EXCEPT true production of something of value and importance to society breaks the economic vicious crircle. examples are abundant. Cheap energy, cheap food, cheap manufacturing, cheap digital technology have all been major contributors that actually make a difference.
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you mean china? cause america doesnt produce hardly anything anymore. most of our big manufacturers make stuff there then sell it here.
 
ManWithTheHex

ManWithTheHex

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Just making weed legal won't do much, if anything, by itself.
Release prisoners that are in jail for victimless drug crimes, stop the privatizing of prisons so the failed drug war can end and most importantly take the steroid needle out from the military's ass.
(I would say it's smart to legalize and regulate all drugs to get rid of the black market, but that's me.) Then your economy would be better, not fixed, but at least better.
 
TheGreenMaester

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Green Inferno said:
Keeping it illegal so a few dealers could make a few dollars doesn't seem logical to me.

If it does get legalized, the dealing scene probably wouldn't change too much, not everyone
knows how to grow, and it still does cost money to grow it, and it will always be profitable.
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I agree with you to a point. If you legalize it, you can start charging a premium for it but eventually someone will step in and completely take over. A Starbucks of Weed will happen. They will sell good quality stuff, but it will be much harder for little cafes to compete. The same with alcohol and brewing. Sure you have micro-breweries but they are not the big dogs in production in the alcohol industry.
 
TheGreenMaester

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tip top toker said:
I have to agree that the cost of military upkeep, not to mention invading everything you like the look of legality be damned, well weed will not cover those expenses :D
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Unfortunately many people who I know that scream and shout about marijuana legalization refuse to realize how much a trillion dollars is versus the billions we spend on other things.
 
Timewalk

Timewalk

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I think even if we legalized marijuana in every state
in the USA "which i hope to see" it wont drag us
out of our huge debt issues the USA total debt
of unfunded liabilities are around $109 trillion
it cost around $40 billion to run this country
per day so not sure when the house of cards
fall but sooner then later id stay out of the
stock market as there already at all time highs
 
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