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Would you consider buying a VERO after reading through some of the posts?


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Rahz

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Not made for passive. The fins are too close to get proper air movement (and horizontal orientation is no good). Once the fins heated up the heat pipes would get sluggish and performance would not be good. We would all like to see the theory tested. :)

The passive heatsinks I use can handle Vero 29 at .7 amps no problem. There is a double thick version that could easily handle 1.05 amps. They are like $28 though (in bulk), but still cheaper than the Deepcool. Ebay "100 watt led aluminum heatsink round"
 

robincnn

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Why Yes Way!!!!! I Do Believe These Heat Sinks Can Handel 80 Watts Of Vero 29. Whats Are Your Thoughts?
Rahz already answered
The fin orientation in horizontal, fins to close for air movement. That heatsink is designed for active cooling with fan. meets all 'Do Not List' for passive.
A piece of heatsibnk usa profile would be better. I think dimmable is a good way to go if unsure about a passive design. You can always dim it if your estimates were off and heatsink is too hot.
 

SupraSPL

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As for the readings, you'd have need to submit the data from the data sheets that either Bridgelux or Cree provides for their products, specifically the intensity for each of the individual wavelengths throughout the 'color curve' for each of the temperatures. Here's what it came to, thanks to @alesh and Damon from Apogee for their support.

Vero18 3000K 80CRI : -6.5%

Vero18 4000K 80CRI : -5.2%

Vero18 5000K 70CRI : -3.6%

I imagine Cree COBS aren't far off from similar colored Vero COBs and that these numbers could be used interchangeably between brands but I could be completely wrong, as I haven't entered that realm of Cree's (yet). .
Thank you for this info and for the math explanation, I finally get it :) Wondering if these numbers are for Vero V1.2 or V2.0?
 

ReeferDance

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Just wanted to share some of my recent results with my Vero29's

3'x3' tent with four girls vegged for about 50 days under 200w of 4000k Vero18.

Unknown strain (I do not believe this is a bag seed though), in a mix of FFOF and perlite. Using full Earth Juice line

This pic is about a 2 weeks or so into flower under ~280w of 3500k Vero29's.
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Here is some close up about 5 days later, starting to pump out some trichomes.
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Here we are at week 5 of flower, last time I grew this it took about 10 weeks to finish, going to see if I can let this one do the same.
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Here are a few close up shots of week 5.
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And here we are now, week 6, getting chunky, tons of trichomes. Sadly I misdiagnosed a K def, for P and burnt it a little. I think I have finally managed to get the K def under control though.

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This is going to be my first full tent of this strain, really hoping to get at least a gram/w fingers crossed! :weed:
 

littlejacob

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Just wanted to share some of my recent results with my Vero29's

3'x3' tent with four girls vegged for about 50 days under 200w of 4000k Vero18.

Unknown strain (I do not believe this is a bag seed though), in a mix of FFOF and perlite. Using full Earth Juice line

This pic is about a 2 weeks or so into flower under ~280w of 3500k Vero29's.
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Here is some close up about 5 days later, starting to pump out some trichomes.
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Here we are at week 5 of flower, last time I grew this it took about 10 weeks to finish, going to see if I can let this one do the same.
View attachment 3541282 View attachment 3541283 View attachment 3541284 Underskirt of some trimming after they were done stretching out.

Here are a few close up shots of week 5.
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And here we are now, week 6, getting chunky, tons of trichomes. Sadly I misdiagnosed a K def, for P and burnt it a little. I think I have finally managed to get the K def under control though.

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This is going to be my first full tent of this strain, really hoping to get at least a gram/w fingers crossed! :weed:
Bonjour
nice job my friend!
Do you have two box? 4000ºk and 3500ºk!
280w...do you use hlg-185-1400b X2?
Do you stop growing in summer because of heat!??
Have a great day★
 

ReeferDance

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Bonjour
nice job my friend!
Do you have two box? 4000ºk and 3500ºk!
280w...do you use hlg-185-1400b X2?
Do you stop growing in summer because of heat!??
Have a great day★
Nice cool basement :cool: Stays a pretty constant ~75F. The flower tent gets up to 80F with the lights on, and drops to about 68-70F at night. The only thing that bugs me is the RH fluctuations. But Winter is beginning so it is slowly dropping to about 50%, in the spring/summer it was hover around 60-80%, bugged me lol. I am using LSDpower drivers. The tent uses 2 of the 150w drivers. I am getting about 70w per Vero 29.

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I originally built a small PVC frame tent, and since I got a nicer one it has become a nice little veg tent. I absolutely loved the growth I got under the 4000k, the plants just seem to look happier and brighter under them haha. And then the slight yellowish tint to the 3500k seems to compliment the flowering stage wonderfully. Really liking what I am seeing so far.

Are the pics from a phone???
Really good quality...it look like some need a shave...very hairy!!!
Can't wait to see the results!
Yup got a new one a few months ago, blows my mind how great these phone cameras are getting!

I will post a few more updates probably on this thread. Harvest time is looking to be around the beginning of December. Should be a nice frosty Christmas present haha. bongsmilie
 

ReeferDance

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Bonjour
Really nice...
Did you plan to try a bloom under the 4000ºk? Unless you need your vegg tent all the year!
CU
I did flower a plant for about 3 weeks under the 4000k and it had some pretty nice bud development, but it was moved under the 3500k when room was made.

I think GreenGenes and maybe a few other people have done full cycles under 4000k if you dig around a little. Might be easier to look at his Youtube channel. I think his GorillaGlue#4 run was under 4000k.

I want to say REALSTYLES has flowered under cooler kelvin also if you go check out some of his threads. :-D
 

HiloReign

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Hey guys... Still fishing for that 90 CRI Vero18 SPD chart. Anyone seen it? E-mailed bridgelux again (no response first time).

While I'm at it, from what I understand the 90CRI versions emit more deep red than their 80CRI counterparts. 90CRI V18s have a R9 value at a minimum of 50 (out of 100) whereas 80CRI versions minimum is 0 (you can even go negative apparently?). R9 represents deep red and it would seem is a value that isn't included in the CRI evaluation.

Just some info I thought was cool, if I'm not mistaken.
 

Rahz

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As much as I like the Veros, Bridgelux customer service sucks. I've emailed them several times regarding technical information and never got a response back.

Hey guys... Still fishing for that 90 CRI Vero18 SPD chart. Anyone seen it? E-mailed bridgelux again (no response first time).

While I'm at it, from what I understand the 90CRI versions emit more deep red than their 80CRI counterparts. 90CRI V18s have a R9 value at a minimum of 50 (out of 100) whereas 80CRI versions minimum is 0 (you can even go negative apparently?). R9 represents deep red and it would seem is a value that isn't included in the CRI evaluation.

Just some info I thought was cool, if I'm not mistaken.
 

HiloReign

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As much as I like the Veros, Bridgelux customer service sucks. I've emailed them several times regarding technical information and never got a response back.
Thanks for the response... I won't be holding my breath on that one anymore lol. I e-mailed them a while back as well~
 
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