All the raids??

Lucius Vorenus said:

All the owners care about is that it is clean and tests well. All the patients care about is that it gets them high. Period.

The amount of over thinking that goes on on these forums by these bedroom Grow Gurus is quite astounding. Which is why most of them are NOT involved in the industry, nor will they ever be.

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Call folks what you want but can I ask why the F are you here if all the things you say are about RIuers and not you. How does that work? Seriously!

Lucius Vorenus said:

Why do you care to go to a Dispensary? Why don't you just keep smoking all that "FIRE" you grow in your closet and be happy?

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Its called exhaust resources... Not 1 dispensary has been able to help me in my health care treatment for my debilitating medical condition. Not one.

FYI - when did I ever claim to be some big grower or some other non sense like that? I grow for my own consumption. PERIOD.

I am still wondering why you are here? (Pushing for dispensaries which has only affirmed all the has been said)


PS - about irieie... We have clashed heads a few times but I can NOT say his herb is shit.



Note-
There are 2 methods of testing cannabis - GC & HPLC. Have not found one dispensary that is able to give me the test results that will help me with my health care treatment for my debilitating medical condition.

[video=youtube;8E5Hluvi1GU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8E5Hluvi1GU[/video]

Literally everything that video said about discrediting a testing facility described AZ analytical/ med testing. Owners need to find people that know about cannabis or they need to learn it themselves, there is no shame in admitting you need help. The shame come from acting like a big dick and fumbling all over the place. Or jumping on the bandwagon when you had the opportunity to fill a niche and be a leader in the industry.

If you wanna talk about a monopoly, AZ testing, there it is. No other testing outfit to rebuke their claims so it must be accurate. Maybe that ^^ was the training video they used as well to become a "certified" testing lab.

I can test too.
I have a few bongs and some other glass.
Give me your samples and I will tell you if it is any good.
I dont charge for that service either.

I believe there are two or three labs for testing in the valley.
One of the dispensarys is testing too.

I agree, AZ Med Testing seems to be all over the place and there needs to be a medical standard for sure.

With regard to Irieie's product, its the best i have seen in Arizona. So for you to say his meds are shit causes you lose a lot of credibility here, because most of us here have seen and/or used his meds.

Most of what i have seen at dispensaries is average at best - the collectives around town still have the best product and options for patients. Fact.

Definitely looks second rate. Top AZ growers don't post lots of pics. Sounds like your a farmers market guy.... definitely no top tier there or even anything close LOl. Irieie has very little experience
(about 2 or 3 years growing) but thinks he knows it all...pathetic. Have they ever even seen good weed in maricopa? lol

I get it, I am just a newbie with little real experience. Honestly, I can barely manage the three plants I grow. I am not here to argue with anyone, you can weigh my opinion any way you see fit.

As far as bud in Maricopa is concerned we have the best Mexican Dirt in all of Arizona!

For the record, I do think you meant to say, "you're a Farmers Market guy", not "your a Farmers Market guy" - no biggie, you made your point. However, moving forward using proper grammar will help you drive your point home with the intellectual players in this debate, rather than only appealing to the dullards.

Arizona, where everybody knows it all, but doesn't know shit at the same time.

KAL EL said:

I can test too.
I have a few bongs and some other glass.
Give me your samples and I will tell you if it is any good.
I dont charge for that service either.

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lol
sometimes the old ways are the best.


there was a good thread about when thc was at it's peak. this testing was done by what seemed to be a reputable and respected lab that wasn't a pot testing lab.

their conclusion was that thc was at it's peak when the trichs were still clear. although i often cut a few buds when the trichs are clear for a light and happy daytime buzz, the reality is, most of us prefer the high when the trichs are getting cloudy or older. so the thc content can tell you something but doesn't add anything to the complexities of that great high we all love so much.

the taste test always rules.

i used to hire labs to test soil, water and air.

it was surprising how many of them trying to work for us were fly by night type places. weeding out the companies that get shut down and simply reopen under a relative or friends name was a challenge. there are great labs out there, and some real shit labs who do crappy, sloppy work, don't follow their own procedures, take short cuts to save money. some scum will do anything to make money.

I have picked up some super fire from these farmer's market's. Its out there you just gotta find it.

fatboyOGOF said:

i used to hire labs to test soil, water and air.

it was surprising how many of them trying to work for us were fly by night type places. weeding out the companies that get shut down and simply reopen under a relative or friends name was a challenge. there are great labs out there, and some real shit labs who do crappy, sloppy work, don't follow their own procedures, take short cuts to save money. some scum will do anything to make money.

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Always stayed with well known labs myself. Peters has a great lab and I love there 2 part hydro formula also. http://www.jrpeters.com/Lab-Services/Testing-Services/Physical.html

Orr you could take A few Chem classes and do literally ALL of that testing yourself....and NEVER have to worry about bad results, or overpaying. Im CERTAIN these guys at the testing facilities only have basic chem skills, and are NOT phd's or Grad students.
Pay me 20 bucks and i can do LITERALLY ALL of those tests in about 15 minutes at the local CC.

Seriously though....just take INtro Chem (and if you wanna get fancy Organic Chem as well),that way YOU have the knowledge and power......
Plus Chem is SUPER fascinating.

Hydro ain't rocket science-

All you need is some coco, flora micro, flora bloom and the right environment to get nice results.

Hÿdra;9486884 said:

Orr you could take A few Chem classes and do literally ALL of that testing yourself....and NEVER have to worry about bad results, or overpaying. Im CERTAIN these guys at the testing facilities only have basic chem skills, and are NOT phd's or Grad students.
Pay me 20 bucks and i can do LITERALLY ALL of those tests in about 15 minutes at the local CC.

Seriously though....just take INtro Chem (and if you wanna get fancy Organic Chem as well),that way YOU have the knowledge and power......
Plus Chem is SUPER fascinating.

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Going to take you a few years easily lol. Peters does testing for many university researchers and
large ag companies. Dr. Cari Peters seems to over see most things and is always available for questions even from amateur growers like us.

North Avalon said:

So wait, your not jumping on board with shit meds like jilly bean, blue dream and big bud being shoved down your throats at top shelf pricing? Better check the stance because in Arizona most dispensaries are going to carrying the EXACT same meds @ different prices produced from the same place. Many owners think that simply selling bud is going to make them rich and allow them to open multiple store fronts because they did not do their due diligence and talk with successful business owners from other states. From a recent phone interview there is no humility in the AZ scene, Growers and Owners, everyone thinks they are the bees knees but have very little or NO experience in this industry when asked but like to pretend otherwise. Astounding they don't ask for help and try to take on the challenge with a blind eye. Its amazing what you can figure out from just letting the talkers talk while you listen intently. .

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Best post in this thread so much flaming going on it's hard to sort through. I think it goes without saying most patients are upset with the dispensary situation and we can't do much about it. The systems is very profiteering and the level of experience is pretty much zero. We are paying to be guinea pigs and paying extremely high rates to do it. There are a lot of shady things going on here and no I don't think every other state is like this. It is just very f***ed up here.