All about Harbor Freight Driveway Alert Motion Sensors

5150

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I consider myself a self proclaimed expert on Harbor Freight Driveway Alert motion sensors. May be long post but will have solid info on how to keep your yard guarded without jumping up at every false alarm. Yes false alarms will happen lots with HF driveway alerts. How often? I run 12 alerts in my backyard. On average I get about 4 false alarms a week. (with dogs) I will tell you how to disregard false alarms and get around dogs later. Do not get me wrong though HF alerts are great units. Best kick for the value. If you want solid driveway alerts you will pay about $50 plus for the hi $ ones that pick up heat and anything above 70lbs. The best thing about these alerts is the ripper does not know you have been alerted to his presence. (also more on this later)

HF alerts come in a bunch of channels. Maybe like 40 channels. Each unit has it's own channel from the factory on the box and cannot be changed. So in my case I have 12 different channels running at the same time. When I first started using these alerts I was jumping up at every false alarm. This got old and I did think they sucked at first. Moths will set them off. Even heavy rain drops running off your house. wind and bushes/colas moving will set them off as well. I will go over on how to solve those problems but first I want to talk about the most important thing IMO. With HF alerts you need 2 or more of them on 2 channels bare minimum . One is great and better than nothing for sure. But expect false alarms. This is how I set up my yard and it is rock solid. Impossible for anything to be in my yard without me knowing along with not jumping to false alarms.

So I have 12 channels setup in my yard. I always overlap 2 channels in the same general area. Sometimes 3 channels overlap. The key to overlapping the sensors is false alarms. Say a moth sets of a channel. Only one channel will go off/beep. Never will the moth set off both channels. So the only way both or all three channels will go off is if something large is in your yard. So say a ripper walks down my yard. channel 1 and 2 go off at same time. As he walks further down the yard channels 3 and 4 go off at the same time. he goes further channels 5,6 and 7 go off around the same time. When your receivers go off like firecrackers you can bet your ass a ripper is in your yard. If I hear a single channel go off I do not even jump. I knows it's nothing but false alarm.

Dogs? Big problem for HF alerts pick up everything. They are not like the high dollar driveway alerts. What I do is mount the sensors about thigh high. I aim them up slightly so the dogs can walk under them. I have big Labrador and this method works great. Dogs are no longer a factor with me.

Wind and bushes? Another big problem. Even your colas in the wind will set them off. So basically you cannot aim them right on your plants if you have larger plants. But thats okay you do not need to point them at your plants. Bushes? If you have bushes that blow in the wind you may need to stay away from them. If the bush is close to the sensor you can lay a plywood against the bush. This just lets the sensor read the wood and the path in front of it. You may have to use the plywood if you have dogs. If no dogs just mount the sensor knee high below the tall bushes blowing in the wind. You get less coverage mounted lower though.

Rain? Rain will not set them off. But if you mount the sensor on the side of your house. And your gutters leak or drip heavy. That heavy constant dripping will set them off. So just watch for that. Took me days to figure that one out. Rain was dripping off my carport covers setting a channel off.

Other ways to use them for all different walks of life? Not all people can fight. Not all people want to confront or can confront a ripper. When your wife is home alone you probably just want the ripper gone asap for your wife is not going to run out in the yard in most cases. Or mine anyway. So what I do is leave the receivers outside when not home. My thinking is the ripper will hear all the beeping and get the hell out. Now if your a young buck with a baseball bat by all means put the receivers on low beep and catch the rippers red handed. So a person can use them to scare the ripper off as soon as the alerts go off. Or you can keep them inside and try to catch them. Personally I sleep on the floor right inside my back door. So a ripper and myself would be alerted at the same time. I do not want to confront any ripper. I just want them gone and running but know I know he was there. I have no desire to confront a ripper with a machete in my hand.

One last thing one must consider when deciding to leave the receivers outside or inside is plant size. Say your sleeping away in bed a 4am and your receivers go off. You then jump up and run downstairs and outside. 20 sec. or so. If your plants are smaller and a ripper can just grab them and yank them out. How long do you think it takes him to rip up 5 smaller plants. So by the time you get outside the ripper could rip up half your garden. (thats just one ripper) Sure you may catch him and chase him off but what are you left with? plants and roots laying on the ground. If your receivers were outside chances are the ripper would be gone at first beep. Now if you got monster plants it's not easy or near impossible to just rip them out. Worst case would be the ripper chopping 4 or 5 colas before you got outside. On large grows you see on this site a ripper would need a dump truck to get it all. So if you have large plants you can be more flexible of corse. I like the idea of sleeping with the receivers in your window seal or something. If setup right and multiple channels go off it's not a question on if someone or something was in your yard. It's a question on how long they were in your yard and damage done. I said setup right. Remember how I got them setup if my receivers banks light up and go crazy I have no question and 100% positive a person is in my backyard. Thats or a Deer or something. But setup for dogs in my suburban backyard if they go off it's 100% positive a ripper is in my yard. And I like it that way.

Also do not think it's easy to dial a bunch of channels up perfect. If you have dogs it will take you a few days to dial them in. It's take time to get it right.

Below is a pic of one of my banks. I have 3 of these tapped together like this. When sleeping at night all three are at backdoor with me. When not home I hide the banks under my patio cover. all in different spots. Would have to be crazy ripper to stick around with all the load beeping.

Trail cams work great but they will not save any of your crop. I use 3 of them as well. I also have one of the expensive driveway alerts on the side of my house. It works well for it does not pick up coons and cats. You can set it for 50,60,70,80lb. But it cost $60 or so. If you got the funds get a bunch of those.

Moral of the story? A single HF driveway alerts is not very good. Better than nothing and can save your crop. But lots of hassle with false alarms. Even two channels will let you know so much more than a single channel. The HF alerts are like 12$ with coupon. Plus batteries. One 9v and 4 C batteries. Batteries last for a few years. So for $144 plus batteries I have totally secured my yard. Unless a ripper robs me they will not get shit.

Hope this helps even save one plant. Took me 5 years to figure all this out.
 

SxIstew

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As a former Pricing Coordinator of HFT. I must say



FUCKIN RIGHT DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




cheap prices for everything they have.
with a cheap extended warranty on most of it too! :)



their $280 home DVR 6 security camera setup is completely worth the money as well...
 

hoonry

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wow! great post. not everybody is as generous with sharing such hard-earned knowledge - thank you.
 

doublejj

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Great info 5150. I swear by the HF alarms too. One thing I might add, is something I learned in Vietnam. It's hard to cover large areas successfully, so you can place obstacles & barriers and funnel people thru narrow more easily covered pinch points. Create 'easy' 'quiet' paths for them to follow & cover those well. Figure out their most likely entry points & concentrate there. Good stuff bro.....
 

BWG707

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Very good info. Instead of possibly confronting a ripper with a baseball bat I have a can of high grade pepper spray. I'm not just going to spray anyone in my yard, it's just for if I'm confronted. Ill first try to yell and chase them off but if they turn in my direction I could give them a fogging. Of course ill have a flashlight/club on me also. Your system sounds good but you still get those annoying alarms, whether false or not. With a fence and wind blocks around it the Skylink system with 2 sensors for $50 doesn't give you those annoying false alarms. The wind blocks act the same way as the plywood you discribed, stops the wind blown bushes from setting off alarms. I had to trim a couple landscaping bushes in my yard to keep them out of the sensor zone. The fence is not really necessary if you can't afford it, I only paid $150 for it, but it's a great deterrent plus it gives you that extra time to get outside before rippers could even touch your plants. Small amount to pay for the peace of mind you get. I love hearing about people's security, hope everyone keeps the ideas coming.
 

TWS

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Very good info. Instead of possibly confronting a ripper with a baseball bat I have a can of high grade pepper spray. I'm not just going to spray anyone in my yard, it's just for if I'm confronted. Ill first try to yell and chase them off but if they turn in my direction I could give them a fogging. Of course ill have a flashlight/club on me also. Your system sounds good but you still get those annoying alarms, whether false or not. With a fence and wind blocks around it the Skylink system with 2 sensors for $50 doesn't give you those annoying false alarms. The wind blocks act the same way as the plywood you discribed, stops the wind blown bushes from setting off alarms. I had to trim a couple landscaping bushes in my yard to keep them out of the sensor zone. The fence is not really necessary if you can't afford it, I only paid $150 for it, but it's a great deterrent plus it gives you that extra time to get outside before rippers could even touch your plants. Small amount to pay for the peace of mind you get. I love hearing about people's security, hope everyone keeps the ideas coming.
Think about it, take it for what it is worth. Don't go to a gun fight with a knife. If you go out to confront a ripper you better be prepared for the worst case scenario .
 

BWG707

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Think about it, take it for what it is worth. Don't go to a gun fight with a knife. If you go out to confront a ripper you better be prepared for the worst case scenario .
Dont get me wrong ill definitely have my handgun on me when I walk outside, but I'd rather not show someone my gun- I think that would entice a armed ripper to start shooting. I'd rather keep guns out of it if at all possible. If someone sees you with a gun and they have a gun they will be thinking- I better get off the first shot. If you just yell and try to scare them off, maybe holding a baseball bat or can of mace, they might not be so inclined to pull a gun on you. Bottom line if the rippers want your plants bad enough and have guns they will get your plants one way or another.
 

5150

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Not all of us can legally own guns. I am one of them. From past mistakes I am stuck with machete. The bear spray is a great idea though.
 

UncleBuck

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damn store near me only sells two channels and half the ones they sell end up not working or only work randomly.

i picked up a tazer the other day for the possibility of close encounters.
 

F.M.I.L.Y

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I also got these rigged up now, although I am using two sensors per reciever. Fucking things are loud as shit! Took me about 3 hours to set them up due to having a dog run around. But I like them a lot! The chime sounds like the one when you walk in a porn shop, lol!

Peace
FM
 

Garden Boss

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I also got these rigged up now, although I am using two sensors per reciever. Fucking things are loud as shit! Took me about 3 hours to set them up due to having a dog run around. But I like them a lot! The chime sounds like the one when you walk in a porn shop, lol!

Peace
FM
I train my dogs to go FULL ALERT when these chime
 

gwailo

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I'm going to get a few of these. Someone stole a lawnmower from my yard last night and I'm afraid they might have smelled my garden.
 

F.M.I.L.Y

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Its been very windy and they been driving me nuts...lol my dog barks every time it goes off. Little annoying but definitely doing what its supposed to do. I am sure my neighbors are sick and tired of the noise too.
 

Grobda

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Its been very windy and they been driving me nuts...lol my dog barks every time it goes off. Little annoying but definitely doing what its supposed to do. I am sure my neighbors are sick and tired of the noise too.
I can empathize with this. One of my dogs is terrified and hides under a table when the alerts go off, the other barks incessantly. Fortunately I have nobody living in the houses on either side of me :)
 
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