Aliens

The type that come from other planets.

Anyone believe they have landed on Earth? Not that they don't exist as I believe they do, the odds of them not are too great. Actually believe though that they have landed on Earth? Or that they kidnap people for experiments?

I kid around a lot but I am serious about this.

I have seen ufos before. I was 15 and I still remember it like it was today. I wasnt on any drugs fyi. I was looking in the sky and happened to notice two lights going towards each other. I thought they were airplanes getting ready to crash. Well the two lights hit each other and made one light. The light turned red and got about 3x bigger. Then it went back down to the original size and turned blue and got bigger again. Then the light split into 3 small white lights in a straight horizotal line. They sat there for about 2 seconds and then they all shot different directions. It was fucking weird. I didnt tell anyone about it for like a year. It really got me thinking about how small we really are.

I have seen ghost and a real psychic too. I will get to the religion thread but I dont have enough time to post that yet.

widow sounds like an acid trip There has to be other life out there. And suitable planets to sustain life.

Anyone that doesn't believe in life on other planets, is missing quite a few brain cells. Even if you believe that life started in tidepools and we crawled out of the swamps and eventually walked on two legs (why are there still apes on this planet if we descended from them), you would almost have to agree that with billions of planets out there, there could be life on them. Now take the fact that the universe is billions of years old, is it not possible that on another planet somewhere in the universe, an intelligent species evolved, or was created some time before our world was habitable, and these beings having millions-billions of years head start on us, could have the capacity to visit our world. I'm sure they're curious about us like we're curious about the dinosaurs, plus we're much more interesting because we have shit to blow things up and maybe cause a catastrophe in the universe. If you don't believe in extra-terrestials, you must be brain dead. Of course the powers that be, don't want you believing in such things, how dare we think there might be some being more intelligent than our leaders. Nope I've never seen one, although to be honest, on a two year sabbatical in the wilderness of Arizona, I saw quite a few U.F.O.s, remember what a UFO is: an unidentified flying object, I saw a few that did things that no known terrestial object could achieve.

I believe there is something out there, maybe BILLIONS of LIGHT YEARS away, but there all the same. But as far as visiting this planet is concerned I always like to think of it like this.

Say it is us that find life first. We come across a planet with sentient living beings. They're not as advanced as us (we've discovered the warp-drive), they've only just discovered the wheel.

What would We do? The first thing we'd do is more than likely check out the planet's resources. Technology uses a lot of these. Then when we discovered the richness of it as the inhabitants technology is limited to cutting down a few trees. We'd go and take it. Maybe the Aliens would put up a little struggle, but they'd be no match for us. We'd take everything they had and then try and teach them how to form Governments. Most of our major advancements have come through WARS.

Now turn it around.

It will really be a "new world order" then. You are right, that is exactly how it will be done. We will do them like the indians. And give them a moon or something to live on. Im sure with this envasion habbit we have its already in the planning. They prolly have a step by step guide by now.

Give it a couple of hundred years and we'll be blowing Alien scum straight to hell!!!

i find it hard to believe we are the only ones in the universe

can't you envision an alien culture that is so far advanced from us that they no longer have wars or the need to rape other cultures for their resources . Maybe we could even get there ourselves, but without "Divine Intervention" I'm pretty sure were destined to self destruct. Maybe it's like "star trek" and there are waring clans all over the universe, although you must realize these theorys were propagated by a human and we all know how fallible they are. Can you imagine a planet where the condition of the majority of the inhabitants live in worse poverty, have more wars, more animosity towards one another, more self-importance and less caring than this one, I believe that would be called Hell! There are a few good human beings on this planet, I don't think there are enough to stop the madness. Nuclear holocost is inevitable. Man has never made a weapon that he has not used extensively, Hiroshima was a drop in the bucket!

Technology costs resources. If you mean spiritually advanced where they don't fight and things, well... they'd be easy pickings.

Maybe, maybe not (easy pickens) Have you heard of mind over matter?

Read about it in fiction. But why would these beings have EVOLVED this power?

who knows what the mind is capable of. Einstein only used 12% of his grey matter. That was determined by cutting open his brain and observing it by medical professionals. maybe when we have got brain usage up in the 80-90 percentile, we could perform some tasks now thought impossible. The average person only uses 8-10 percent, pot smokers less, and if the medical professionals are right, pot smokers destroy a good percentage of their brain cells so maybe we arent the ones to figure out the universe just yet!

THC is a chemical that enables deep thought. Fair enough this may be at the expense of other brain functions but I don't believe that it makes us less capable to think. The most profound thoughts you'll ever have enter your head when you are high on THC. You focus your energy more on the act of thinking. Look at Stephen Hawking, before he was dis-abled he was just an average physicist, now he is one of the most prominent astro-physicists in the world. His dis-ability has just made him concentrate more on thinking, This is very similar to the way THC works. It disables parts of your brain so that you can concentrate more on using the other parts.

Also the cells in our bodies are constantly dying and being replaced. Scientists aren't sure whether after prolonged drug use the cells are replaced. The best thing to do is keep your mind active, puzzles or my personal favourite chess. Reading is excellent, whether it be fact or fiction. I always play chess while stoned, the game doesn't interest me hardly at all when I'm sober.

Most of the greatest writers throughout time were drug users. Even George Orwell had a heavy addiction to nicotine. To say that drugs destroy your brain, I feel is untrue. If you keep your mind active no harm should befall it.

Take two hits of acid and call me in the morning. Maybe it will wake up your brain cells, Hell you might even see God!

LSD is something I did a lot as a kid. Admittedly I did take it a little too much. Take it, miss a day etc. I used to prefer taking 4 hits of acid minimum as I found I entered a different world once I took this many. Acid opened my mind in many ways. Despite the mind bending qualities of acid I felt that my mind was better served, mental health-wise, when I took MDMA. About 15 years ago now that drug lifted me off my feet and helped me see the world with new eyes. It helped me realise what life is.

I've never really suffered from hangovers with any drug. Unless you count feeling tired. I suppose that that is where my long relationship with cannabis comes from.

It's funny you should mention about seeing God on a trip. On my 1st prison sentence me and my mate were looking at some serious bird. It was x-mas and my missus at the time brought me up a package on a visit. Amongst this x-mas bundle was some acid. I think there were about twenty tabs. Anyway my co-accused had never taken acid before. So I shared it out with him and a few mates before we all got locked up again for the night. He was in a different cell to me and apparently while tripping he heard God speaking to him through the ventilation grille. It was enough to get him hospitalised for 6 weeks under mental health. We got the main charges dropped and copped short sentences of 18 months. After he got out he left crime behind and joined the Jesus Army. Lost his bollocks, just like that!

OK, I give up. Your way too hard core to change, just think about the death bed thing. when your drawing your last breaths, you might see the light, I can only hope, for your sake. I'm definently not trying to convert anyone, I just thought reasonable people would have to admit that the complexities of this world are far beyond the scope of man ergo a power greater than man must exist. I worked with an athiest and try as I could, I couldn't convince him either, so, you either get it or you don't, and I don't know if you can change, I know that I can never give up hope that a power greater than me exists somewhere in the cosmos and in the final analysis, things work for the greater good! peace!

I've thought about the deathbed thing on a number of occasions, written about it a few times too. I suppose with the fear of death and it rearing it's ugly head you would be inclined to cling onto any tiny bit of hope that you might not actually be dying. Much easier to believe that when we die we are not like our favourite dog or cat, that when we die we will still be somehow sentient, not gone completely, no, surely not.

Death is something to be afraid of, and deep down we all are. None more so than you religous types, your fear of death is so great that you actually believe you are going to live forever when you die.

There you go, religious types, belive me, I think religion is an inherant evil shoved at us like a drug to keep us under control by the powers that be. No I'm not religious, I'm spiritual. I believe there is more to life than skin and bones. Each person has a soul,an indescribable entity that has been scientifically shown to leave the body at death. When you die a miniscule weight is lifted from your body without any scientific explanation, that entity is believed to be your soul, they have actually weighed this and it is consistent with every person they have weighed at death. There was a study done expressly for this purpose! What do you think, maybe you won't lose any weight at death, maybe you don't have one. You've got one, you just haven't discovered it yet, hang in there, there's hope for you yet! peace.

An entity scientifically shown to leave the body upon death. Where did you read that, in one of your Arthur C Clarke novels? You do realise that you are bordering on the ridiculous here?

Forgive me for calling you religious, I realise there is a big difference.

So there is a miniscule amount of weight lost just after the point of death. Maybe this is the lungs emptying, bladder etc. They all go you know. Even the liquid around your eyes dries up.