afgooey first grow ever wooo!!!

opiumfiend

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hey there. this is my first grow. i have been around grows before but only taken part from the sidelines. so this is all really a pretty new experience. i germinated 12 seeds, 10 of those were AFGOOEYand 2 OGKUSH
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i germinated 6 in rockwool cubes and 6 in jiffies. i made a major newb mistake and planted most of the seeds upside down however they still all germinated. once they had germinated i transplated the ones in rockwool into soil. i left the jiffy ones as it was to difficult to dig them out and i didn't want to risk damaging them. however even with these set backs all 12 seeds germinated. i actually lost one seed a pot and planted another plant in the same pot and one started to grow right beside the 1 which was already established so i pulled it out and killed it. so now i have 11 germinated seedlings. i don't know which one is the OGKUSH or if the one i threw out was one of them. guess il just have to wait and see.

i also have 2 clones which were gifted upon me by someone. both were looking pretty close to death when i got them but i nursed them back to health. as you can see one of them is looking very healthy,green,short and stout. whilst the other one is very stuned and weak. i have decided to keep growing it anyway and using it as a tester for mediums and nute strengths etc before giving the same treatment to the other plants.

the soil is a basic seed raising mix from the store. they have a light layer of coco and perlite on them. the reason been is that some of my plants have roots growing to the top. or at-least im 90% sure that's what they are. so i have been trying to cover them as they grow. here is a close up picture of what im talking about.

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any ideas or advice on this would be great ;)

anyway. today is day 8 from seed. for the last 7 days i was using 2x55watt fluros for my seedlings. today i turned on my 600 watt MH because after transplanting 2 plants/seedlings into bigger pots (for testing) i couldn't have them upder the 55 watts without the lights being to far away from the other seedlings. also i have found that my seedlings tend to stretch towards the fluros. especially the ones on the outer edges. i know it's a bit early to be chucking them under the MH but fuck it. should produce some nice yummy light food for my babies :D


the 2 bigger pots are a 50/50 mix of perlite and coco peat. hopefully i have good luck with this mix. the guy at the hydro shop said this would be the best medium for a beginner. il see how my clone and seedling go and then transplant the rest when they are a wee bit bigger with maybe 2-3 sets of leaves. i have not feed anything yet. however the plants in the coco/peat mix are still incased in their original seed raising soil. so they should be ok to survive on that and their own vigor until they are a bit bigger. i have started feeding my clones be it a very diluted mix. i find the coco/perlite mix dries out very very quickly. i can tell im going to have problems with this later. however i do plan on building a basic drip feed system other the coming weeks to make things easier. i will also make a pot of just coco and do some comparisons between the two.

here are some pictures of my grow tent and set up. i have a quite powerful intake fan and a axial fan connected to an airsok filter. as i said before i am running a 600 watt MH and i have a 600 watt HPS ready to go. both bulbs are brand new out the box for max lighting potential.

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opiumfiend

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i feed my clones today. the nute mix was fairly diluted at about 16-18cf/700-800ppm off the top of my head. interested to see how they take that.
 

opiumfiend

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my babies are looking so healthy. il post a picture soon. iv made so many mistakes from the start. i did so much research before hand but it's like learning to drive a car. you just have to do it to truly learn. one thing i can take away so far is how hardy weed really is. you read up on so much information on the net saying, "do this","don't do this","this exact temperature,nutes,soil". etc etc. so i thought that even the slighest mistake would fuck everything up. maybe thats the case in hydro. probably is. however so long as marijuana has light,water,air and a decent medium then it's probably going to grow. it may not grow as good as it would if certain measures were taking, but none the less iv found my seeds to be quite forgiving of all my mistakes.

i think i have a pretty good set up to be honest. i have a good quality fan blowing cold,fresh air in every few hours. i have a carbon filter (be it a rather old one). i have a powerful new light, a decent medium,decent temperature etc. growing in a tent is great because you have a small confined environment which is easy to control. to me it feels neater and easier :)

i didn't expect all my seeds to germinate so now iv got 12 seedlings for a 1x1 metre grow tent. but that's okay. leaves room for error. plus i intend on stripping a plant completely for lots of clones. and i will probably be using a scog method. if all the plants make it to flower i just want one dense fucking screen of pot. anyway i am getting ahead of myself. im still in the most delicate stage at the moment. but im feeling more and more confident as they grow.

im happy with my choice to switch on my 600 watt HID so early. i found my plants were stretching under the 2x55 watt fluros, even though they were only inches away. they seem to be lapping up the HID :)
 

opiumfiend

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looking strong and growing well. this is only 10 days from seed. :) that bigger plant is a clone btw not one of my seeds. it was near dead when i got it. so im quite proud of the job i did to nurse it back to health :)
 

opiumfiend

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transplanted my other clone today. root system looked very healthy and was pushing against the sides of the bag. so good time to repot. used same old 50/50 coco and perlite. i sprayed the roots with super thrive (2 drop per 300 ml) about 50-100 ml of the mixture total. um i also added max yeild coco grow parts A and B at a cf of 13-16 per litre for 500ml per plant. also added some superthrive at 1 drop per 300 ml to some of my seedlings. they are just starting to show their second set of true leaves now. il post photos in 2 days which is the 14 day anniversary
 

hbbum

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Instead of stripping one down for clones, try taking a couple from each and label them. That way you can take the best growers and concentrate on those. Keeping track can be the toughest part, especially if like me, you tend to do your gardening while enjoying the fruits of your labor :bigjoint:
 

opiumfiend

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cheers mate good idea. will probably do that.

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update:

seedlings are looking gorgeous. still not uploading a photo. il wait untill tomorrow. as it's a very special day ;)
having a problem though. with PH. when i first started out a couple of weeks ago i invested in a cheap 10 dollar PH meter. now no matter what i put it in it wouldn't change and always remained at 7. so today i purchased a slightly more expensive one for 30 dollars. it also has a light intensity reader and a moisture meter which is great. the PH meter seems to be better then the last one. but when i put it in my coco/perliite mix it gave me a reading of 7.0.

im not sure if it is accurate or not. it seems pretty high. for straight coco/perlite. maybe the PH meter is not accurate. if it is accurate, does anyone think it's worth worrying about?, as the plant gets bigger and i feed it more nutes will that cause the coco to become more acidic?. any suggestions on how to lower the ph and how i should lower it. i now there is plenty of information on the forum regarding this topic. and i will do my own research but im just adding this in my journal in case anyone reads this and feels like chiming in. :)

i should also ad that the "clones" i though i had are actually just bag seed plants. i didn't know that. found out today. so that takes away my assurence of them being fem clones. il probably keep growing them anyway because they make good testers for nutes,soil mixes, etc. they are looking pretty big and healthy. i may just plant them outside. it's around the right time here in my part of the world.
 

hbbum

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I dont know about those soil PH meters. Your talking about the ones that test soil PH, light and sometimes event moisture. I use a water PH tester and check the water that is going in. If I saw issues, I may also test the PH of the run off water to see how my medium was buffering. I also just use a cheap water PH tester, and I have not had any problems. I check the calibration every couple weeks but have not needed to readjust in almost 2 years.

This is the one I use:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JUISQ3G?psc=1

Are the clones actually from cuttings of a plant that was matured or are they actually just seeds that had been planted and have never been fully grown? Be careful putting them outside, if they are male they can spread pollen quite a distance, you could run the risk of even contaminating your tent and pollinating your indoor plants. That may or may not be a bad thing depending on what you are looking for.
 

opiumfiend

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they are just seeds. random bag seed. growing quite well considering the stems where slimmer then 1mm when i got them :D
but yes as i said before they are my testing fodder :)

here is an update. today is exactly 2 weeks since i placed the seeds in rockwool/jiffies
progress is looking good. proud of myself so far. curious what kind of growth i can expect in the next 14 days :)
topped/fim'd one of the plants today :D


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opiumfiend

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ok time for an update. today is 4 weeks approx from seed. so a lot has happened. iv had quite a few ups and downs. last week after testing my ph with a probe i decided that my ph of 7.0 to 7.5 in my coco/perlite mix was to high. i had read that aluminium sulfate was the fastest way to lower it. so i mixed about 40-70 grams in water and poured it through some of the plants until the ph was about 6.5. however the ph just seemed to jump back up anyway. it seems coco is pretty stubborn in keeping it's standing ph. so i ended up adding quite a bit more. this had a real nasty effect on my plants. the leaves started curling and one of my plants went completely limp. 2 days ago i purchased some more medium. this one was slightly different. it was a pre mix of high quality coco and fine super course perlite and worm castings. i transplanted all my plants into this and this completing their transfer into 9 litre pots and 1 into a 30 litre pot. i then flushed the mixture with a very weak nutrient mix with a cf of about 3-5. now 48 hours later they are looking fantastic and even the one which was completely munted i mean on it's last dying breath, is starting to make a recovery :)

so here's the photo. 4 weeks from seed. il probably vege for another 3-4 weeks. i topped one of the plants and have bent another one other. if the result is positive from this then i will do some HST and LST on the rest. still interested in a possible scrog. i have 11 plants which is not enough for the small 1.2 x 1.2 tent so i will be making another make shift tent to go beside the current one. this tent will just be some timber and panda/mylar film. the current light i have them under now is a 600 watt MH. i also have a 1000 watt so i will use that for my second tent. so i plan to have maybe 5 under each light.

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opiumfiend

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so this is week six from seed i believe. they're are massive. the largest are about 37-39 cm while the smallest are about 18-22cm. im about top move them out of the tent and put them under 2 600 watts. one 600 watt MH and one 600 watt HPS. they're growing in 9 litere / 2.3 gallon pots. i don't want to transplant them so hopefully this is enough. il give them another 1 to 2 weeks. while the topped ones recover. so my plants might be as tall as 60cm by the time i flip them. if they double in size i could be looking at 1metre plants. so are these pots going to suffice?. i have huge 30 litre/ 7 gallon pots. but i don't want to transplant to these as it means not only buying a lot more medium but also means i have to vege even longer while the roots fill out the pot.

i brought a new 600 watt nanolux fanless digital ballast. stoked with this. so in the end i plan on having 2 600's beside each other, one MH and one HPS. and i also plan on hanging another 600 or 400 watt HPS beside the plants, vertical. if i have a vertical light how far will it penetrate. as in, if i have it hanging on one side will it shine light all the way through the lower parts to the other side at a 360 degree angle. i was thinking of placing a shade behind it. good idea or no? any thoughts would be good. don't have a camera at the moment so no pics. will upload some soon.

also started building a dwc system. will also choose a mother plant next week. to use for clones. can i strip the thing completely and it recover and be used as a mother. or should i only take a few at a time?. cheers :)
 

opiumfiend

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well my babies are looking great. they really took of in the last 2 weeks. the bigger ones are sitting at about 50cm and the smaller ones about 26cm with stalks as thick as my big thumb. they got away on me a bit to be honest. veged them a little longer then need be. i will be switching them tomorrow. so il be setting up my room with 2 600 watt lights and using my tent for cloning and a mother.

don't have camera at the moment. will probably end up uploading photo's during flowering. fuck yea
 

opiumfiend

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ok. long time no update. so lets get to it. 2 weeks into flowering approx. plants are looking amazing. they all have pistils now. but not much in terms of flowers atm. they are filling out very well. the largest is reaching 86cm. while the others are sitting at anywhere from 29-76. most of them are sitting about 65cm. there are 3 stranglers. which never seemed to handle my rookie mistakes i made along the way. i identified one of these weaker ones as my only OG KUSH. wont be expecting big yields from that one. but will be good for my personal collection at least.

came up with something cool today. which im quite proud of. added another light. a 400 watt HPS. i hung it vertically from a microphone stand i had lying around. plus attached a shade to the stand. to held reduce light wastage. as my grow room is pretty big with not as much reflective film as i would like. i certainly noticed things brighten up down under the canopy. and i hope adding this 400 WATT will have a big effect on my final yield.

speaking of yields. at this point i really wish i knew what to expect. iv got 10 plants. about 6 of them are between 65cm-86cm. while one is shorter but has multiple main heads from HST. and then iv got my 3 tiny ones. to be honest. i wont be surprised if most of them reach near 1 metre by the time they are done. i have 2 600 watt lights. 1 HPS, 1 MH and one 400 watt HPS vertical. this is in a space of about 1 metre by 2 metre. any thoughts? cheers :)

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ok so today is week 4 of flowering. got some real decent nug development going on. leaves are starting to frost over to. upgraded my lighting system. from 1600 watt to 2200 watt. kinda funny when you think that when i first started this grow i was only running a single 600 watt MH. so my upgrade consists of replacing 1 600 watt HPS for a 1000 watt. and for my second light i placed both a 600 watt MH and HPS under the same massive shade at opposite ends. i like this because it gives just a little more juice then a single 1000 watt bulb and provides both spectrums of the MH and HPS. it's fucking hot in my room now though.

iv plugged in 2 fans now. one is wall mounted, 1 is a shitty axial one sitting on the floor. it's 28 degree c in there.
also placed some more panda film around the room. so more reflective walls. my clones almost all died on me. i left them alone for 12 hours and they all dried out. which is such a shame because they all looked really healthy before hand. 4 of the more developed ones survived. so i planted them today as they were ready. and hopefully they make a full recovery :)

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opiumfiend

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also wanted to purchase some "ooze bloom" but the grow shop was sold out at all of their locations in the country, must be good. i got a much cheaper alternative and added that to my nutrient reigime. plants looks great today. much greener. i need to keep on top of watering. i let them dry right out to much. they need watering every 2 days because it's so hot and they get so thirsty.
 

opiumfiend

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today is the start of week 6 of flowering. my og kush is huge. standing at about 1.2 metres tall. the others are looking huge at about 1 metre call. i didn't expect this kind of stretch at all. my feel like my planter bags are to small. iv got roots growing onto the surface of the soil. my plant many even be root bound. maybe not. hoping it's not an issue. il be more prepared next time. the nugs are super frosty now. parts of the plant are completely white and sparkling. i have been having lots of fun looking at the triches though a 60x microscope haha.

to be honest im hoping the nugs swell a lot more. the sativa is looking a bit light but i don't expect much more. but the afgooey im hoping will pack on more weight. because so far this is not "huge". iv got 2200 watts, mixed spectrum cranking. that should be enough to get a huge yeild. because this si my first time growing i don't know what to expect. just like i didn't expect the stretch or size or height, i cannot predict the next 3 weeks. lots of the lower leaves are falling off or turning yellow and even some of the bigger ones. im hoping this is just a part of the normal flower cycle. it's only in the last week or so that they have started to really yellow. the rest of the plant is very green. perhaps to green in some places. my last feed was a tad heavy but that's ok.

used some bamboo stakes to tie the colas out and get some light on them. i also tied the leaves into bunches so that they were not obscuring the buds. i hope this was a good idea and wont cause any health issues for the plant. my clones are in their 3rd or 4th week now and are now rooted and exploding with growth. very happy. got more seeds on the way, white widow and blueberry. my clones will be very far ahead of my seeds by then. was hoping to grow them together. that's ok though. the harvests can be slightly apart. not sure how i want to grow them yet. if i want to do them short with a short flower period for s fast harvest. or take my time and make them into monsters and try get a huge yield like a pound or pound and half per 4 plants.

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opiumfiend

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ok. 2 weeks left till harvast. my plants have been loosing their leaves pretty fast. with lots if yelloing. more then fells right, even this close to harvast. had some problems with nbutes in the last week or so, over feedd a bit. some of the plants went very dark green. and crumpled. so iv been feeding plain water. but the plants when went quite yellow. so iv giving them a very light mild feed. looking good now.

a bit worried about the yield to be honest. would have hoped the buds would be bigger. they're frosty but not very dense. the plants are huge. the og kush is 1.3 metres tall. that's the sativa looking one in the pictures that is on it's own. iv got some close ups of my buds. sorry it's not very clear. would love to hear peoples views on the look of my plants. im growing under 2000 watts and afooey is supposed to be a huge yielder. hopefully i will see some improvement. plant health may be playing a part in this. hopefully iv sorted any issues now.
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