Advanced Nutrients Vs House and Garden Vs GH : RESULTS ARE IN !

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homebrewer

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OZUT said:
You'll get pictures when I take pictures....I don't have the free time that you do...You tend to 3-4 plants at a time, I work full time and then I tend to 99 plants that supplies a dispensary

As for the transplanting issue, your reasoning for 5 gallons instead of 3 is so you have the option of adding more soil as needed. If you wanna now say you meant to say that the soil is to be added to the bottom, than you're still a fucking idiot because you would have to take the plant out of that 5 gallon bucket, add another 2 gallons of soil to the bottom and put the plant back in....You just TRANSPLANTED you fucking moron and defeated the purpose of using a bigger pot. Don't you think it would be smarter to use a 3 gallon pot with 3 gallons of soil and if needed, transplant to a 5 gallon pot with 5 gallon of soil? Instead of your system? Do you now see you're arguing for the sake of arguing?
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You should be embarrassed that I have to spell this out for you. A 5 gallon pot is reusable. You can use it for flower, you can also use it to hold a mother. Who starts out clones or seeds in a 5 gallon pot? When I suggested 5 gallon buckets, it was something you would move into (aka transplant) from a smaller volume. Any experienced grower has a plan for their plants. If you have a plan for a mother, then you'd transplant from a smaller pot into a 5 gallon bucket and utilize the entire volume. A flowering plant probably only needs 3 gallons given a 4 week veg. Are we clear now? Can we get back to the fact that you know nothing about plant nutrition or is that the other guy? Or are you the one who has yet to post pics? Doesn't matter either way really, you've shown your maturity level and I don't have time to teach people like you about the basics.
 
homebrewer

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OZUT said:
As for nutrients, all I've been saying throughout this entire thread is that you can't compare 3 different nutrients brands by just using their base. What any given brand lacks in their base, they make up for it in their additives....
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Had to sift though a lot of immaturity there. So how about you tell us why a nute line might 'lack' an element and then make up for it with an overpriced additive. If this is common practice among nute brands, then this comparison is a level playing field. What elements are being left out here that you soooo wanted included because you feel they make all the difference?

As I said before, if you want to challenge a full nute line, lets do it. I run GH and DynaGro. I'll start tomorrow with flowering plants.
 
purplehazin

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Guys, you really need to take your debate somewhere else, and stop cluttering up this thread with off topic posts. May I suggest smoking a bowl, and give each other an E-hug. :leaf: :peace:
 
venacular

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dlively11 said:
Lastly I throw this out there just for fun. I was able to get 30 grams per plant with my Chronic White Widow strain at 4 per square foot. No CO2. Great yielding Strain, good nute lineup, good air movement and lighting. Totally doable up to 1600 grams per light or 3.5 lbs ! :hump: For those gram per watt junkies that is 1.6 grams per watt. I give most the credit to that particular strain. Ice does almost as well but the rest fall to 20 grams per plant range.
:joint: Peace :joint:
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Thanks for the comparison. I'm not a "gram per watt junkie" but I do know if you mean Nirvana's Ice I'm in for a real nice treat. I just started Ice not to long ago :) Can I get a confirmation on that please? Thanks
 
Quiller

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I am curious how one uses the Floralicious..... I added it to the rez and within 24 hours the algae was so thick my pumps locked up.

Do you guys foliar feed with it or pour it into the pots by hand?

Or is this where you use the H202 to control it......
 
homebrewer

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yocinfluence said:
lol seriously this guy needs to shut up and let some people with some knowledge give some advice... This thread isn't even about dynagrow idiot... its about gh vs an vs h&g. now if u wanna give some advice on these products that isn't just information coming out ur ass feel free. This isn't a place to argue this is place to help newer growers choose the right set up. You haven't used half the products or researched half the products you are just calling crap right off the back. Next to start the test with plants already in flower is stupid. What kinda test is that. Start from a clone to see real results... Nextly don't ask me to do a test between gh and AN or H&G cuase i never said GH is shit. I'm just saying AN and H&G have good products also and they spent a lot of time researching what to put in (exactly what to put in... all the little things gh doesn't have) so you don't have to go look up 100 different chemicals to help your plants grow. They already got in a sweet package for u ready to go. And I'm not telling people not to buy GH base nutrients I am just saying be open to the fact that AN and H&G have better products and be willing to use them if you have the money. If they are a poor piece of shit like u that wants to act like their shit doesn't stink and come in here and totally dis products they know nothing about then they can take your advice cause that's what you are here for. :blsmoke: Time to smoke me some OG kush and honey oil. Gotta love cali and its medical laws
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What I was trying to do by asking you and the other kid some simple questions is establish a basis for an intelligent conversation which would back up my view that base nutes are representative of the entire line. Neither you nor the other person offered to answer simple questions, yet slung insults instead making yourself appear less mature and knowledgeable than previously thought. Keep slinging the insults and I’ll keep reporting your posts, this conversation is going no where.
 
AbsoluteChron

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So much hostility over something so arbitrary...

Without mapping the genome of the plant you are growing, how can anyone claim to even know what the optimal nutrient levels are? (Even then it probably comes down to individual gene expression.) I imagine that the true complexity of optimal growth is well beyond our current knowledge base and technological capabilities. Innovation is like steps in that with every solution or improvement a new missing piece is discovered. Everyone seems to think that the entire world is already completely figured out. The truth is that regardless of your respective level of understanding, NOBODY KNOWS EVERYTHING and we are all still learning.

All of the name calling and bickering is just a waste of everyone's time. Remember that while you may not like someone else's approach, there is still value to it, even in failure.
 
Quiller

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Yeah, let's get over it. An ignorant conversation takes two... lol

Can anyone share ideas on how I can add Floraliciuos to my hydro system without gumming up my rez?

Should I make a separate mix and give a couple cups per plant?
Foliar feed?
Add to the rez with H202?

I don't know, I do want to add it. My last grow came out A-. Great in every way, as good as Strawberry Diesel can get but it just didn't hold the smell or sticky texture through the drying process......
 
homebrewer

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Quiller said:
Can anyone share ideas on how I can add Floraliciuos to my hydro system without gumming up my rez?
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Use floralicious plus at 1ml per gallon or floralicious bloom at 5mls per gallon. Supposedly floralicious plus is just a more concentrated floralicious bloom and if you read the label, they're pretty close. I use them (not together) and they don't gum up my res at all.
 
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Im gonna try some of that maxibloom powder. 500 grams off AN Base nutes per 600 watt light was pretty good but if i can get double that with Maxi i am sure gonna give it a try.
 
Quiller

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Great, thanks. I am also going to make a hinged cover for my rez for added protection against the algae factor... lol
I know that having the light shine on the rez is what's promoting it.

I just thought there was something else wrong. I saw a hydro system of a friend of a friend situation and he had the same set up I use. His rez was in the light, uncovered. He used Floralicious as a sweetener. No Algae, ever. Smooth operation. I don't know how much he used. I added a lot. I think 320 mL for an 80 rez. I don't have the Plus, just standard Floralicious.


I want to add it because his product has a much stronger smell than mine. I think that is the only thing he did different was use that product. His Purps smelled so sweet and strong long after drying and curing. Mine smelled incredible until I dried it, then no scent at all.....
 
UrbanAerO

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You didnt even use house and garden root excell, drip clean, top booster, bud xl? What kind of biased test is this? Do you work for advanced? you didnt use a full H&G lineup. Root excellerator is their best product, I use all of it and tried swithing to AN conissuer and used them on my well rooted mothers at half strength and burned the shit outta everything. I honestly never seen Advanced Nutrients in person work, all my friends had the same results as I. I use aqua flakes A&B, root excell, drip clean, bud xl, top booster, b'cuzz bloom stim, mag-i-cal, protekt silica, mad farmers nutz, PH, M.O.A.B, botanicares- B-1 blast-off- Sweet(original berry), hydroplex. This is a lot of products and additives but works great for me.
 
homebrewer

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OZUT said:
Don't waste your time....All that fucking idiot is going to say is list all of the ingredients and explain why you think they're important...As noob of a response as it gets because he has no idea what the fuck he's talking about....He'll expect you to go out of your way with explanations but sit back and post smart ass, dipshit crap
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Are you now confusing me with the OP? You know I wasn’t the one who ran this test, right? The poster above you accuses the OP of working for AN, yet maxibloom was the winner :lol: . And why would I compare on paper two of the lines that the OP already compared in real life? I looked at them and was going to post something but if you got confused about something as simple as my transplanting post, how on earth would you understand anything I write about essential plant nutrition? And what about those pics I asked you to post? Where are they again? Do you actually grow or do you just play a grower on the internet? It doesn’t matter now, you’re on my ignore list and I’ll no longer see any of the garbage you post.

For the rest of you who actually found value in this comparison, my apologies for the ignorance abound. Here are some pics of mine (GH nutes) that prove with an intelligent conversation, value could’ve been added to an already good original post. Cheers!





 
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